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TedR719
04-05-2003, 06:25 PM
I went to get my caR dyno'd today and tuned by Tobi at Dyno Pro. I started off running real lean but the overall result was a nice gain in the mid range where I gained 15 horsepowR and 12.7 ft/tq. The top end stayed the same and the fields unit sucks for tuning since it does it by 1000rpm increments and the a/f cruve needed a little tuning in between the rpm's.

Here is the chaRt.
HONDA GHANDI
04-05-2003, 06:29 PM
Blue line is starting point, Blue lines are after tuning a little.
Nice gains! your tuner must be good. :)
exciv2000
04-05-2003, 06:37 PM
what's sick is I make more HP and torque than you, but the only reason you're faster in the 1/4 is because of the weight difference.
JrJ93vx
04-05-2003, 07:01 PM
Nice gains! Hmmm...i wonder what my power curve looks like.
TedR719
04-05-2003, 07:02 PM
Not boosted and I'm a better driver is my reasons ;)



j/k

Originally posted by exciv2000
what's sick is I make more HP and torque than you, but the only reason you're faster in the 1/4 is because of the weight difference.
TedR719
04-05-2003, 07:03 PM
Thanks, grab a VAFC and have your car tuned by Tobi for ya.

Originally posted by JrJ93vx
Nice gains! Hmmm...i wonder what my power curve looks like.
B20civic
04-05-2003, 08:06 PM
can you tune my car, we might have to manually push the wheels around :o :o
Scuba_Steve
04-05-2003, 08:23 PM
Not bad. I was so close :D
http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8444
exciv2000
04-05-2003, 09:22 PM
better driver my ass :p
2000SiVTEC
04-05-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by exciv2000
better driver my ass :p

But he still isn't boosted;)
stu
04-05-2003, 10:02 PM
Nice numbers Ted.
Brian
04-05-2003, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by exciv2000
what's sick is I make more HP and torque than you, but the only reason you're faster in the 1/4 is because of the weight difference.

Have you ever dynoed your car?
exciv2000
04-05-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
But he still isn't boosted;)

Yeah but I've got a heavier car and a SOHC! ;)
exciv2000
04-05-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by 1EightT
Have you ever dynoed your car?

Yeah, when I was at 6 PSI, I had it dynoed at Paragon and got 141 HP and I forget the torque, like 112 or something. Now that I've got 8 PSI, high flow cat, Cartech, better timing, lower VTEC crossover, etc. etc., I'm guessing around 165 on the HP. With the nitrous I should be close to if not over 200 HP... I hope to have it dyno'd again by Tobi sometime this summer.
TedR719
04-06-2003, 12:04 AM
Always gotta be talking shit!
BluByU
04-06-2003, 01:06 AM
Sorry I missed ya Ted. Nice gains though, that Ghandi dood knows his stuff.
TedR719
04-06-2003, 01:10 AM
Yeah at first I didnt know it was your car, I was like whoa look at the blue si with a front mount! You car is looking nice as always man!

Ghandi does know his stuff!


Originally posted by BluByU
Sorry I missed ya Ted. Nice gains though, that Ghandi dood knows his stuff.
DnVr
04-06-2003, 01:14 AM
Whats your car wiegh, 2000 or so lbs? it'll be cool if you hit high 14's na.
TedR719
04-06-2003, 01:15 AM
No i think about 2150-2300 with me in it. I don't know if I can hit a high 14 with that power and the weight, could be very close though!
DnVr
04-06-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by futuresi
No i think about 3150-3300 with me in it. I don't know if I can hit a high 14 with that power and the weight, could be very close though! you gotta be kidding, my dsm was 3250 with me in it and it was a awd tank. your car has to be way less than that.
B20civic
04-06-2003, 01:20 AM
i should be at 128/123

http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/b20/dyno/b20baseline.gif

i am close in mods:
98 B20B stock head and block, 94 P75/LS ecu
Intake: GSR stock cone filter and tube (no airbox), LS intake manifold, 64mm TB
Ex: GSR exhaust manifold, test pipe, Greddy BL exhaust
Comments: 128hp to the wheels is rougly 150hp to the flywheel. Interesting since the engine is rated only 126 hp flywheel.

and this was at sea level, i think.

should i be expecting a dyno like that?
B20civic
04-06-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by futuresi
No i think about 3150-3300 with me in it. I don't know if I can hit a high 14 with that power and the weight, could be very close though! our si hatches are about 2300lbs. at least mine was when i weighed it, and that was with a ton of bondo :o :o
TedR719
04-06-2003, 01:26 AM
oppps you right :D about 2300lbs not 3000 DOH!

Originally posted by B20civic
our si hatches are about 2300lbs. at least mine was when i weighed it, and that was with a ton of bondo :o :o
TedR719
04-06-2003, 01:30 AM
Here is the a/f graph, notice how lean she was running
TedR719
04-06-2003, 01:56 AM
Tobi if you see this here are some questions

I was looking at some other dyno graphs and I know see that the powerband doesnt pull all the way to redline, kinda drops a little, now will the exhaust cam make that much of a difference? (I've seen R cams make power all the way pass 8k easy) I also will be trading out the Fields Unit for the VAFC once the AFCII becomes popular so we have more room to tune with. Will fixing the "bumps" in the powerband create more power of just be more of smoothing out the a/f and having a strong running motor.

I'm very please on how the car pulls, and vtec isnt just a noise I can accually feel the kick when it crosses over. I really wanna go boosted but really dont wanna dump that much $$ into it and wanna have a less headache with my car. So maybe a few more upgrades and a goal of a 14 second b16 up here in Colorado is not that far away (depending on a few situations).
DnVr
04-06-2003, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by futuresi


I'm very please on how the car pulls, and vtec isnt just a noise I can accually feel the kick when it crosses over. I really wanna go boosted but really dont wanna dump that much $$ into it and wanna have a less headache with my car. So maybe a few more upgrades and a goal of a 14 second b16 up here in Colorado is not that far away (depending on a few situations). 14's may only be some wt reduction and drag rad/slicks away
TedR719
04-06-2003, 03:01 AM
I dyno'd my d16z6 way back in the day at that same place and I believe I layed down 109hp and 99tq.

JRSC @ 6psi = 32hp and 13tq just doesnt seem right :confused: but I know that is just peak numbers, too bad we cant compare the full charts.



Originally posted by exciv2000
Yeah, when I was at 6 PSI, I had it dynoed at Paragon and got 141 HP and I forget the torque, like 112 or something. Now that I've got 8 PSI, high flow cat, Cartech, better timing, lower VTEC crossover, etc. etc., I'm guessing around 165 on the HP. With the nitrous I should be close to if not over 200 HP... I hope to have it dyno'd again by Tobi sometime this summer.
TedR719
04-06-2003, 03:05 AM
oh and also Tobi since we have the fuel pressure at a upper pressure for "stock" do you think upgarding the injectors to somthing slightly bigger would help if I plan on going with ctr intake and exhaust combo going to 8400 or would a ctr ecu be the better way to go. (Not sure on what CTR injectors are rated at vs. mine)
TedR719
04-06-2003, 03:09 AM
I would have to shead about 150-200 lbs and I think I could hit a 14.9 -14.8 with what I have now and drag radials or if I can find a way to make about 15 more hp with the weight I have now then a 14.9999 on a good day :)

The best as it sits I think will be a 15.3

Originally posted by DnVr
14's may only be some wt reduction and drag rad/slicks away
exciv2000
04-06-2003, 12:35 PM
ctr injectors are the same size, 240cc, as is ITR injectors.

Also, I have a D16Y8, not a Z6... should be a bit more powerful, plus it had I/H/E, V-AFC at the time too in addition to the SC. What matters is the area under the curve, and I've got more area!
2000SiVTEC
04-06-2003, 12:37 PM
Good numbers though ted..........Wanna race;)
2000SiVTEC
04-06-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by exciv2000
ctr injectors are the same size, 240cc, as is ITR injectors.

Also, I have a D16Y8, not a Z6... should be a bit more powerful, plus it had I/H/E, V-AFC at the time too in addition to the SC. What matters is the area under the curve, and I've got more area!

Yeah but, hasn't Teds car been faster at the track? It hought you ran yours with 8 psi. Or am I mistaken? he has a best of like a 15.5, wasn't yours a low 16 or high 15?
exciv2000
04-06-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
Yeah but, hasn't Teds car been faster at the track? It hought you ran yours with 8 psi. Or am I mistaken? he has a best of like a 15.5, wasn't yours a low 16 or high 15?

As I said before, it's the weight... I've got roughly 400+ pounds on him with or without me in the car. Yes 8 PSI is correct, and I ran a 15.8 last season, but I should be able to hit 15.5 or better on Sunday :D
2000SiVTEC
04-06-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by exciv2000
As I said before, it's the weight... I've got roughly 400+ pounds on him with or without me in the car. Yes 8 PSI is correct, and I ran a 15.8 last season, but I should be able to hit 15.5 or better on Sunday :D

Whats on sunday???
exciv2000
04-06-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
Whats on sunday???

test and tune man :D
nate9213
04-07-2003, 12:15 AM
What does a stock '95 Civic EX run up here?
exciv2000
04-07-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by nate9213
What does a stock '95 Civic EX run up here?

slow mid 18s to mid 19s, depending on driver, temperature, and tires.
TedR719
04-07-2003, 12:49 PM
17's

After a few mods in my 92 Si hatch (same motor) My best was 16.69 and 94hatch pulled off a 16.10 I believe in his CX. In a ex coupe since they weight a little more you should be hitting 17's stock.

I dont think geo's are that slow 18-19 come on now...

Originally posted by nate9213
What does a stock '95 Civic EX run up here?