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danegod
03-25-2003, 01:35 AM
ok, i am new to this racing thing. i got a stock '91 CRX HF. i wanna swap but dont know what would be best. i heard good things abour the GSR's, but a six cyl would be nice. what would be better? a dodge stealth motor with twin turbos, or a 2JZ? or anything else? how much work would it be to put in a six cyl into my car? as you can tell i have alot of questions to ask.

by the way, what is really better, the B16 A, or the GSR, or is there anouther 4 cyl motor that is better than either of them?
stu
03-25-2003, 01:39 AM
Swaping a motor from another make would not be worth the time or money.
Besides, it would be so front end heavy with a six cylinder in it, it would have to be a race only car.
danegod
03-25-2003, 02:13 AM
so you think that a six in a crx is too much? what about a B16 A or a GSR motor?
Maverick
03-25-2003, 02:14 AM
turbo 240Z motor...........relatively cheap
stu
03-25-2003, 02:49 AM
GSR and so a lot of research. From what you posted, that's the best thing for you right now.
b18cya-T
03-25-2003, 02:54 AM
n00b!
danegod
03-25-2003, 09:53 AM
yes obi, i am a n00b, so what is your point? i am trying to learn, you should at lest give me kicks for that instead of being a dick about it.
danegod
03-25-2003, 09:56 AM
one more question guys, what is a good site to find specs on motors, where i can find horse power, and tork info? or do i just have to keep surking the net
b18cya-T
03-25-2003, 10:09 AM
http://www.geocities.com/drumsy99/Acuraenginespecs.html

good link^

& it's torque:p
GimPin
03-25-2003, 10:45 AM
if you want a big engine in your CRX than put a h22 in it.... I think that is even a little heavy for that car but forget trying to put in a 6 cyl it wont fit and keep in mind a 2jz comes from RWD car and there is no way it will bolt up to a FWD tranny
stu
03-25-2003, 12:13 PM
You are always welcome to ask questions here, but surking the net is always a good idea.

P.S. Oby Wan wasn't being a dick.
civicmark
03-25-2003, 06:41 PM
wow, this is one friendly forum. someone slay the n00b!!!, even though i'm somewhat new to this board.
but to answer your Q. Putting something non honda/acura would be one of the biggest wastes of you time. The gsr puts out more power than any b16, so if those are your two options, go b18c1(gsr), but i would strongly reccomend reading up on swaps......a lot
JasonU
03-25-2003, 08:35 PM
Let me try to steer you in the right direction:

The CRX Resource (http://resource.crx.org/index.php)

The Resource is a fairly friendly site and has TONS of good info archieved for you to research.

crx.honda-perf.org (http://crx.honda-perf.org/forum/index.shtml)

The crx.honda-perf.org forum is a GREAT place for technical info. Most of the regulars there are very knowledgable, but BE WARNED... any rice/looks/body-kit questions usually get slammed.

Those two sites are the only two Honda sites I frequent regulary. The knowledge-to-bullshit ratio is very high, unlike some of the more popular Honda sites.

As far as engine choices, unless you want to spend a TON of $$$$$, your only real engine options for making big power are the B16A or the B18C1 or B18C5. The H22 is an option, but only if you want a drag-race car. The engine is very heavy, and your Hf is so light, your handling (on of the CRX's strongest attributes) would be utterly ruined. However, straight-line performance would be phenomenal.

Also, the biggest trend I've seen among the CRX crowd is to make low-$$$ junkyard turbo kits. There are some people putting up great HP and TQ numbers with the stock D16A6 engines the Si came with. If you want info about that, this site is the current authority Homemadeturbo.com (http://www.homemadeturbo.com/) You could find a D16A6 for dirt cheap, and the swap would be extremely easy into your Hf. Whatever you do, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO ANYTHING TO THE STOCK Hf ENGINE (D15B7). It is a total dog, designed with one thing in mind: awesome fuel economy. NOTHING in that engine has any performance potential.

I understand where you are coming from though, when I bought my CRX I wasn't interested in cars at ALL. Six years of research and reading and hands on work on my car has brought me lots of enjoyment. Hope this helps.
cherrybombcivic
03-26-2003, 01:15 AM
yeah same here... i wasnt into cars at all until about 2 years ago when i bought my civic... ive learned so much from just sitting on these boards and reading.. asking the occasional ? but mostly just seein what everyone else is talkin about...
danegod
03-26-2003, 01:32 AM
thanx jason, yeah i still want to be able to drive my car on somewhat of a curve. where i live it is very windy roads...
TheJackal
03-26-2003, 02:24 AM
hahah stealth TT engine, dude theres no way, i have a 3000gt turbo and the engine barely fits in my engine bay(look in my sig how wide my car is, you cant see how long it is..) ... go with another 4 banger and turbo it.

Austin
darkturbo
03-26-2003, 08:27 AM
Yep sounds like you need to do a b18 or b16 swapp. And if you stil want more power then turbo/supercharge the car or get nos. But a 2jz would not fit, the tranny could not bolt you your car so you are talking about months of custom work to swap in a rwd end/tranny/motor/wiring. There is no way you could get all that done and if you could it would probably cost like over 25,000 to source all the parts and labor. Besides if you turboed a b18c1 and built the motor bor like 15psi then you would be able to beat a stock supra for sure.
john
03-26-2003, 09:26 AM
Don't even bother. If you want supra performance, get a supra. Unless you are doing an RWD or AWD conversion on the honda.
Ashton
03-26-2003, 02:33 PM
putting a 2JZ or a 3kGT VR-4 engine in ur CRX would be like me putting a Pagani Zonda 12 in my car.... yeah... that shit aint happening,
Talonstylz
03-26-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by civicmark
Putting something non honda/acura would be one of the biggest wastes of you time.
Not exactly! Couple of guys put a 4G63 into a CRX and made it AWD. No word on what it ran, but it wasnt a stock motor either, hehe
JasonU
03-26-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Talonstylz
Not exactly! Couple of guys put a 4G63 into a CRX and made it AWD. No word on what it ran, but it wasnt a stock motor either, hehe

I can't find the site now, but I've also seen a CRX being converted to RWD and using an NSX engine. The car has been EXTENSIVELY modified, to the point where it's pretty much a tube-framed CRX body, but the point is ANYTHING can be done, it's just a matter of how much time, effort, and most of all money you want to put into a project.
danegod
03-28-2003, 02:55 PM
thx guys youve all been a help. yeah i guess i was just day dreaming of a big'ol motor in my little CRX... ill most likely end up putting a GSR in there. it would be he easiest. some guys offered to buy my car for 3000 cause he was gonna put a h22 motor in there. he said though that if i dint sell him my car he might sell me his h22. he said its still in the crate from the factory. 0 miles. he said he would sell it to me for 2200.
SleeperZ
03-28-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by JasonU
I can't find the site now, but I've also seen a CRX being converted to RWD and using an NSX engine. The car has been EXTENSIVELY modified, to the point where it's pretty much a tube-framed CRX body, but the point is ANYTHING can be done, it's just a matter of how much time, effort, and most of all money you want to put into a project.

Yeah, I 've seen a photo of a CRX with a blown BBC in it too. Tube frame, rear drive, obviously not a CRX anymore...

Get a Z, those are easy to do engine conversions - they fit long inline 6s, and many V8s and V6s. Think SBC, turbo GN, 2JZ, RB26DETT....hell, even SR20DET and 13B or 20B turbo rotories.
john
03-28-2003, 04:23 PM
Dave Buschur put a 4g63 into a CRX, did an RWD conversion, and put a 2speed 'glide in it. Shakedown runs were in the 8 second range. :)


Originally posted by Talonstylz
Not exactly! Couple of guys put a 4G63 into a CRX and made it AWD. No word on what it ran, but it wasnt a stock motor either, hehe
Talonstylz
03-29-2003, 09:50 PM
oh my! any vids of it john?
95GSRB18C
03-31-2003, 08:59 PM
go with the B18. It will be alot better in the longrun. If money is an issue, go for the B16.
john
03-31-2003, 09:35 PM
There was a video floating around a few years ago showing the shakedown runs at NRP. Pretty impressive to see a CRX running 8s. :)


Originally posted by Talonstylz
oh my! any vids of it john?
integra28
04-01-2003, 03:56 PM
there is no way you could fit a 2jz or a V6, if i were you i would swap it with the H22A. Its a jap spec prelude motor. It stock with like 220 hp. other wise a GSR motor. They hav ALOT of potential. I have an integra and the B18 is really strong. The Nissan SR20 might work, but i don't know.
stu
04-01-2003, 04:04 PM
Someone just put an NSX motor into a CRX, never say never.
Talonstylz
04-01-2003, 11:46 PM
I put an NSX motor into a Type R ;)
B20civic
04-06-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by JasonU
I can't find the site now, but I've also seen a CRX being converted to RWD and using an NSX engine. The car has been EXTENSIVELY modified, to the point where it's pretty much a tube-framed CRX body, but the point is ANYTHING can be done, it's just a matter of how much time, effort, and most of all money you want to put into a project. www.mahdavimotorsports.com

CR-NSX :D :D