The clutch and Flywheel are in.

[Dallas J]

This weekend I got my friends engine out of his 95 Talon for the rebuild and my Clutch installed.

The hardest part of the install was getting the damn tranny to line up and back on the engine. After that it was all just time consuming wrench turning.
I had to bleed the clutch quite a bit, but then it was fine.
I still need to adjust the clutch cause i have no play at the top of the clutch pedal...probably not good either.

As for observations...The clutch pedal feel is just slightly harder than stock, but it grabs like now...The flywheel is nice too. In between shifts the rpms fall extremely fast now, and even just normal driving you can tell a difference in the feel of the car.

Well, now i have about 485 more miles of break in.

-Dallas J

[95GSRB18C]

nice. Adjust the clutch a little and let us know how you like it.

[Dallas J]

i went out and adjusted the clutch in the snow....now its at a better catch point. It feels real good now, the car just wants to take off with the fidanza in. I need to order some BG syncroshift to replace the 85w140 i put in..RRE is the one that recomended that heavy of a fluid. It seems to shift a little better now that before, but only after it warms up.
-Dallas J

[thimages]

Originally posted by Dallas J
i went out and adjusted the clutch in the snow....now its at a better catch point. It feels real good now, the car just wants to take off with the fidanza in. I need to order some BG syncroshift to replace the 85w140 i put in..RRE is the one that recomended that heavy of a fluid. It seems to shift a little better now that before, but only after it warms up.
-Dallas J

I was expecting UPS to deliver my new twin disc clutch & flywheel for the stroker today :(

Hal

[Dallas J]

Originally posted by thimages
I was expecting UPS to deliver my new twin disc clutch & flywheel for the stroker today :(

Hal

I hate having paid for parts and still waiting for them...
coughDownpipecough

-Dallas J

[thimages]

My new clutch/flywheel arrived today:

link (http://206.124.12.138/clutch1.jpg)

link (http://206.124.12.138/clutch2.jpg)

Hal

[Dallas J]

Damn hal, that looks...different. :P.

Do you have a link for that set up?

-Dallas J

[exciv2000]

Originally posted by thimages
My new clutch/flywheel arrived today:

link (http://206.124.12.138/clutch1.jpg)

link (http://206.124.12.138/clutch2.jpg)

Hal

That looks pretty sick!

[TedR719]

The mutha of all clutchs :D

[TedR719]

Titan Clutch right?

[thimages]

nope :)

[TedR719]

Who makes the one you have?

Originally posted by thimages
nope :)

[deadly dsm]

Hal I swear it looks alot smaller than an ACT disc does. Is it?
How does that thing compare on the surface area covered against the normal disc? ie: Is it 10-20% smaller?

It also seems to sit very high off of the flywheel surface than our normal set-up in the pics. Did they change something else to let that happen, like maybe a custom clutch fork?

I'm not quite sure if this clutch is fully public yet guys. Hang tight though. Hal any word on that? I'm not sure if this vendor wants this completely out there yet or I'd post it.

[thimages]

Originally posted by deadly dsm
Hal I swear it looks alot smaller than an ACT disc does. Is it?
How does that thing compare on the surface area covered against the normal disc? ie: Is it 10-20% smaller?

It also seems to sit very high off of the flywheel surface than our normal set-up in the pics. Did they change something else to let that happen, like maybe a custom clutch fork?


It's a little smaller, but it's a "puck" style so it has comparable grip.

The ACT is a 9" disc with a 1.5" wide friction surface.

This is a 7.5" disc (2 of them) with a 1.125" wide friction surface.

That works out to about 25% more friction surface.

In the pics, it's not fully bolted down. That's why it sits up off of the flywheel surface.

I expect to be able to release the "source" information later today.

Hal

[thimages]

Ok, I have permission to release the details on the clutch:

AMS Motor Sport (847) 709-0530
www.automotosports.com

Weight (clutch & flywheel combined) 14 lbs

Clutch: 7.25" dual disc
Flywheel: Billet steel

Call and ask for Greg.

Hal

[Dallas J]

Are you the first or set of first to test this set up on a DSM?
I cant find it listed on the site, Seems to have alot of "under construction" areas

-Dallas J

[thimages]

Originally posted by Dallas J
Are you the first or set of first to test this set up on a DSM?
I cant find it listed on the site, Seems to have alot of "under construction" areas

They are in the process of rebuilding the web site.

But, yes they made up a small number for "early" release.

The unit has already been track tested.

Hal

[Dallas J]

Originally posted by thimages
They are in the process of rebuilding the web site.

But, yes they made up a small number for "early" release.

The unit has already been track tested.

Hal

Cool..
How far are you from getting your 10.99 that you were looking for up here?

-Dallas J

[thimages]

Originally posted by Dallas J
Cool..
How far are you from getting your 10.99 that you were looking for up here?

A few months, probably late summer.

The 2.3 goes in next month, then figure May/June for break and "set up".

I don't expect to make it to the track until June/July.

I will consider this season a success if I can break 11.4 or trap in excess of 130.

Hal

[Dallas J]

Hehe, I like that "or"...Either way that will be a sick sick streetable car.
Why did you decide the 2.3l over the 2.4? Ive been following all the threads on DSMTalk about it but not on Team NABR. So far the only thing ive notice that was different is that you have to tap your own oil squirters, and fill a few holes. But you get 6mm more deck height, and i think its about .060 bore to start with.
Taboo also was telling me that the 2.4l was a better option than the 2.3l..But I cant say anything about it from experience.
-Dallas J

[thimages]

Originally posted by Dallas J
Taboo also was telling me that the 2.4l was a better option than the 2.3l..But I cant say anything about it from experience.
-Dallas J

The 2.3L is 100% 4g63 parts except for the crank.

The 2.4L is more 4g64 parts.

I also had a "spare" 4g63 6 bolt block and was able to score a free 4g64 crank.

Hal

[Dallas J]

Originally posted by thimages
The 2.3L is 100% 4g63 parts except for the crank.

The 2.4L is more 4g64 parts.

I also had a "spare" 4g63 6 bolt block and was able to score a free 4g64 crank.

Hal

Well, In that case how can you say no... I just wanna get away from Crankwalk but dont want to swap to a 6bolt($$$). Ive heard the the 7bolt 64's are normally prone as oppose to exeptionally prone like the 4G63TK. But I guess Ill let the big guys locally do the experimenting for me, then ill just follow suit.

-Dallas J

[deadly dsm]

Originally posted by thimages
The 2.3L is 100% 4g63 parts except for the crank.



Sorry this is off topic.

Hal, isn't there a specific reason why building a 2.3L stroker is a "safer" bet than a 2.4L stroker? I was thinking the 2.4 was a little better, but the 2.3 is easier?

You need some custom pistons with the rod moved up higher on the piston. Isn't it 6mm or so?