View Full Version : Forced induction gas poll
davidm_sh
03-13-2003, 05:57 PM
Ok so I try to get good ol 91 from Amoco and the location at GOG and Circle are OUT of it completely so.... I am wondering what you guys/gals use when you are on the outer fringes of detonation ala: forced induction.
Thanks for the input.
SleeperZ
03-13-2003, 06:06 PM
I usually get the Amoco 91 crud. If I'm racing, I go get the 100 from Amoco as well, but it's actually Sunoco, I think.
If I can't get the Amoco, I'll get Conoco instead, but at that point I'll get almost anything - Philips, Texaco. I usually won't get Sinclair, Total or Bradley.
Sunoco if possible, followed by ANY provider who doesn't import Saudi oil.
davidm_sh
03-13-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by jojo
Farmcrest 93.
Yah I figured that was going to come up :). I have been using that along with 2 other people with WRX's ranging from stock to slightly modded to myself. We all have gotten misfire codes and we all use that gas. Since then the other two guys went to using other gas and the CEL's for misfires have stopped. So I was going to try it as well before experimenting with anything else.
Yes I know it seems odd and what not but [shrug] it's worth a try. It just kind of worries me that I had to call about 5-6 different Amoco/Sunco stations before I found one that had 91 octane at the station. And even the one that did said "Yah I should have enough to get through the night". While all the other places, that were out, said that they were suppose to have a truck load about a week ago... man I hope this economy/war/crap gets better somtime soon!!
Brian
03-13-2003, 08:32 PM
A local springs guy went around and did octane tests on all of the pump gas. Conoco consistently scored the highest. I only use conoco if possible. 7/11 gas made my civic sound like marbles were flying around in my engine :D
HONDA GHANDI
03-13-2003, 11:02 PM
Sonoco 104
nolimitsoldier
03-13-2003, 11:04 PM
Shell or BP for normal, but I make the drive to Petrostop for the 93.5 when I can
davidm_sh
03-13-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by 1EightT
A local springs guy went around and did octane tests on all of the pump gas. Conoco consistently scored the highest. I only use conoco if possible. 7/11 gas made my civic sound like marbles were flying around in my engine :D
Thats suprising. I never really thought that Conoco gas was anything special. Do you, by chance, remember where Sunoco/Amoco ranked in the octane test?
and thanks for everyone else who have given their advice/preference. 104... I wish... [heh].
HONDA GHANDI
03-13-2003, 11:33 PM
I get my 104 by the drum and keep it in my garage. Its a tad pricey for everyday use though.
you can pump sunoco 100 right into your tank at 32nd and wadsworth Its cheaper than at the track, I think it runs right around 3$ a gallon
Originally posted by DnVr
you can pump sunoco 100 right into your tank at 32nd and wadsworth Its cheaper than at the track, I think it runs right around 3$ a gallon
Why can't i ever find this place:mad:
Any know the exact location?
Originally posted by davidm_sh
Yah I figured that was going to come up :). I have been using that along with 2 other people with WRX's ranging from stock to slightly modded to myself. We all have gotten misfire codes and we all use that gas. Since then the other two guys went to using other gas and the CEL's for misfires have stopped. So I was going to try it as well before experimenting with anything else.
Back in the day with the supercharger my car ran unbelievably better with the FC93 than any of the 91s. I haven't used anything else with the turbos. It may be crap now, I wouldn't know.
Why is it that I can't seem to read anything about a WRX without hearing about a CEL? Do you guys get CELs if you close the door wrong? :D:D
Originally posted by 1EightT
A local springs guy went around and did octane tests on all of the pump gas. Conoco consistently scored the highest. I only use conoco if possible. 7/11 gas made my civic sound like marbles were flying around in my engine :D
When was this? Where are the results? Did he test the Farmcrest 93 as well?
exciv2000
03-14-2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by TurboSi
Any know the exact location?
Uh, 32ND AND WADSWORTH
V8SpankR
03-14-2003, 08:46 AM
Conoco all the way,the car hasn't seen anything else (besides race gas) in 5 years.
Brian
03-14-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by jojo
When was this? Where are the results? Did he test the Farmcrest 93 as well?
This was a few months ago the last time I heard. The tests were done by Lanier (sp) from the speed shop downtown. I don't know if he tested farmcrest 93.
HONDA GHANDI
03-14-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by TurboSi
Why can't i ever find this place:mad:
Any know the exact location?
Amoco on the north west corner of 32nd ave and Wadsworth.
The pump for the 100 is on the south side of the building.
BalticBlue93
03-14-2003, 02:59 PM
I would say I mostly use race gas in the Supra but when I use pump I like the PetroStop on Parker Road. Now days since Duggen's Petroleum reformulated and raised their prices I am mixing my own gas.
32nd and Wads is very good
Duggen's Petroleum
Or Bathtub boogie as I like to call it. (Xylene or Toulene mixed with 4 oz. of Marvel Mystery oil per gallon). Never mix more then 35%
7 gallons 91 octane + 3.5 gallons X or T + 12oz of MM = 99.66 or 98.6 depending on which you mix.
Xylene is 117 octane
Toulene is 114 octane
Ghosty
03-14-2003, 03:41 PM
Geez Kev, did you go to the School of Mines for Petroleum Engineering or what?! Hahahaa. If anyone has any doubts, his car runs like a mad-dog...
Personally I Love the Sunoco-100 at the 32nd&Wads Amoco, for about $3.50 / gal. If I want to run a bigger shot of N2O this summer, I'll get the PhillipsRace-104 from Duggans, but that shit's like $4.60 / gal. OUCH!
deadly dsm
03-15-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by john
Sunoco if possible, followed by ANY provider who doesn't import Saudi oil.
Alright John, lead the way! What other petro providers do that? Do you know?
Originally posted by deadly dsm
Alright John, lead the way! What other petro providers do that? Do you know?
I believe Sinclair only imports from Canada.
Get the addresses and/or maps to some high octane vendors in the greater Denver area by looking here:
http://octane.jsalmi.com
If that URL doesn't work yet, DNS hasn't fully propogated yet. It can also be found at:
http://jsalmi.com/octane/
Cheers. :)
Originally posted by TurboSi
Why can't i ever find this place:mad:
Any know the exact location?
Vern - from an email which has been making the rounds for about 1.5 yrs...
--------------------------------------
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than
the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money
to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I
thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from.
Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 -
8/31/01).
Shell................ 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco....... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil......... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon............. 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco................ 62,231,000 barrels
If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION!
Here are some large companies that DO NOT import Middle Eastern oil:
Citgo 0 barrels
Sunoco 0 barrels
Conoco 0 barrels
Sinclair 0 barrels
BP/Phillips 0 barrels
Hess 0 barrels
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required
to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.
They report on a monthly basis.
-----------------------------------------------
Originally posted by deadly dsm
Alright John, lead the way! What other petro providers do that? Do you know?
John that email is on the urban legends site. Here's some info:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nogas.htm
Shit. Thanks Jojo. I never even thought to research it.
Might anyone have real info on who does and does not import from Saudi?
I thought we already covered this. Didn't someone say that it didn't matter where you got your gas, you were still funding the middle East? I think it was Bedlam and Newt.
Hellified SH
03-15-2003, 06:12 PM
Well I use Total, now I need to apply for the Conoco card..
What proven facts are there to running higher octane is actual doing some good to your vehicle and if in fact it does good what does it do??
If you don't need it, it wont do ANYTHING to improve your performance. If you have high compression, then you can use it. You may need to use premium on your car James, but you would find no benfit from running anything else.
Running higher octane won't do anything unless your car needs it. Boosted motors, or motors which knock whenever they feel like it will benefit from octane.
Octane is a burn inhibitor, the higher the octane rating the less prone the charge is to ignite before the plug lights it off.
Originally posted by Hellified SH
Well I use Total, now I need to apply for the Conoco card..
What proven facts are there to running higher octane is actual doing some good to your vehicle and if in fact it does good what does it do??
In fact, you can actually loose horsepower by running a higher octane than you need to.
Ashton
03-15-2003, 07:47 PM
as seen with the accord. and 91.... even though i still use 91.
davidm_sh
03-15-2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by john
Running higher octane won't do anything unless your car needs it. Boosted motors, or motors which knock whenever they feel like it will benefit from octane.
Octane is a burn inhibitor, the higher the octane rating the less prone the charge is to ignite before the plug lights it off.
Yup. In my 10:1 CR ratio Toyota truck I run 85 and it is fine. Heck I personally think you could even run 85 or 87 in a "premium only" NA car simply becuase of the atmoshperic pressure losses = less overall compression ratio in the car.
But anyway yah that is why I was directing this thread towards forced induction vehicles more.
Brian
03-15-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by davidm_sh
Yup. In my 10:1 CR ratio Toyota truck I run 85 and it is fine. Heck I personally think you could even run 85 or 87 in a "premium only" NA car simply becuase of the atmoshperic pressure losses = less overall compression ratio in the car.
But anyway yah that is why I was directing this thread towards forced induction vehicles more.
Even in my civic the altitude made a huge difference. At 6 psi I was supposed to run 93 minimum. At 10 psi I should have been running 94 plus. I had no knock at this altitude and I only ran 91. Now mind you this was on the edge of knock. If I ran 7/11 gas or anything else that wasn't up to par, then I had some detonation issues.
darkturbo
03-16-2003, 04:31 PM
Petro 93.5 octane is all I use if possible. If I am really low Ill put a few bucks of 91 from bp to hold me over.
davidm_sh
03-16-2003, 10:09 PM
Well I tried some Conoco tonight (from GoG and I-25 location) and my aggressive map/tune did not like it much compared to Amoco/BP 91 octane [shrug]. I guess I will stick with BP 91 for now since it seems to work.... now I just have to run the conoco tank of gas out :(.
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