B18C Swap Preparation

[monicle]

Ok the engine shows up today. Besides spark plugs, wires, timing belt, head gasket, fluids, and oil filter. what else should I do to prep it for the swap? And Im talking maintenence here not upgrades.

[Mr. NoSkills]

Originally posted by monicle
Ok the engine shows up today. Besides spark plugs, wires, timing belt, head gasket, fluids, and oil filter. what else should I do to prep it for the swap? And Im talking maintenence here not upgrades.

I'm not sure why your swapping head gaskets, but to do it right your going to need all new head bolts and it would be best to have the head resurfaced.
Sounds like overkill, but the one time i skipped the head part, i don't know if it's just cause of bad luck or what, but the fucking motor didn't seal at all, had to to take it all back apart and redo everything.

anyways...

[95GSRB18C]

you wont really need the timing belt since the motor comes with 30-40K mi anyways. Just change the spark plugs, spark plug wires, change the oil, fill the tranny fluid, and fill the antifreeze....and that's about all that i can think of right now. Good Luck with your swap.

[GimPin]

you wont really need the timing belt

you really wouldn't change the timing belt since the engine is out of the car and easy to do?????? Why risk ruining a head over a $30 part... my timing belt gets replaced EVERY time it comes off

[95GSRB18C]

i highly doubt the timing belt would go bad when the motor only has 30-40K....just tryin to save him a lil money.

[Scuba_Steve]

Originally posted by monicle
Ok the engine shows up today. Besides spark plugs, wires, timing belt, head gasket, fluids, and oil filter. what else should I do to prep it for the swap? And Im talking maintenence here not upgrades.

I would definitely do all of the above except the head gasket. Also whenever you do the timing belt it's a good idea to do the water pump as-well. I would also change the clutch, especially since futuresi has Exedy clutches so damn cheap! It would really suck to do a complete swap and find out your clutch is slipping.

[monicle]

Im definately going to change the timing belt before the swap. I have no problem spending a little more now to alleviate any worry in the near future. I was thinking about the headgasket because Im going to take the head off anyways to check the internals to make sure i didnt get a crap engine, so i figured it would be easy to change. As far as changing out the clutch I had considered that as well. Ill take a look and if it seems pretty worn then its definately being replaced. I want to do it right the first time if you know what i mean. I dont really want to get it in there just to have to take it back out.

[95GSRB18C]

i hear ya...when do you plan on swapping it in? Im still down to help you out if you need/want the help. I just helped my friend drop a H22 into a 90 Accord so a B18C into a Civic shouldnt be that hard. :)

[monicle]

Yeah definately could use the help. After i get these small tasks done it should be ready to go, unless theres a suprise waiting for me after I take the head off.

[TedR719]

Timing Belt
Other Belts
Water Pump
Cap/Rotor/Plugs/Wires
Clutch (since the motor is already out)
Oil/Tranny Fluid/Filter/Coolent
Adjust the Valves

I think that covers what I did when I got my car. Basically the stuff you said above but include the water pump since the timing belt is being replaced. Other than that you should be good to go.

[TXKompressor]

water pump is a must... the shipping on the engine probably puts the majority of the rust on it but man are the water pumps by far the worst looking on most of the engines I get from Japan. I would definitely check out the clutch and since FutureSi has great deals on the Exedy clutches get one from him... It would be worth the extra money. Most stock ones that come with the engine do not have very good meat on them so check it out...

[Pang]

you might want to get a new water pump since your doing the timing belt and your going turbo right away? If you are you might consider using a thicker head gasket since your replacing the stock one so you can run more boost.

[monicle]

Yeah Ill be going turbo within a month after dropping the engine. Neraly everything for my turbo setup has already arrived. Just waiting on hondata and a couple little things.

[Pang]

sweet, whats your setup? If you need any help let me know i have air tools you can use

[monicle]

you can check out all my stuff so far here. http://repo.jackmoves.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album96

[Pang]

damn. your cars gonna be sick!

[nate9213]

Would a thicker head gasket harm a N/A engine? Once I get my engine in a few months, I would get the turbo hopefully in 9-12 months. Wondering if it would be safe to run that.

[Pang]

wouldn't harm a thing if you get it tuned right, just normal wear and tear

[nate9213]

On a D16Z6 with stock internals and the Greddy kit, most people have told me not to run more than 8psi with Hondata. With tuning, how much more boost could I run with the thicker gasket (safely)?

[HONDA GHANDI]

Originally posted by GimPin
you really wouldn't change the timing belt since the engine is out of the car and easy to do?????? Why risk ruining a head over a $30 part... my timing belt gets replaced EVERY time it comes off

werd. It is much easier to do now that the engine is out of the car. A t-belt and water pump now will save much time and headache later. True it wont break but it will need to be done sometime before now and 90k. If you do the belt now you know exactly how many miles are on it, not a guess.

[monicle]

word word. Motor pics are up. check em out here. http://repo.jackmoves.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=albun03
Also i think on the JDM motors they dont stamp the lsd trannys right? I want to make sure the dudes werent bone heads. Any way to check without taking off the tranny?

[TedR719]

I've heard that stock internals are good to 300hp, no sure if that applys to the d16 but with proper tuning 8psi would be no problem, just want to make sure your feeding the motor enough fuel with the extra air that is being forced in there.

Running a Hondata is a great setup on your car, I think it would be down to if the stock internals could handle more power cause the tuning should be there. A thicker head gasket would only lower the c/r to make it a little easier on the motor.

Originally posted by nate9213
On a D16Z6 with stock internals and the Greddy kit, most people have told me not to run more than 8psi with Hondata. With tuning, how much more boost could I run with the thicker gasket (safely)?

[TXKompressor]

Originally posted by monicle
word word. Motor pics are up. check em out here. http://repo.jackmoves.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=albun03
Also i think on the JDM motors they dont stamp the lsd trannys right? I want to make sure the dudes werent bone heads. Any way to check without taking off the tranny?

Ya, just look into where the intermediate shaft and the axle go and if you can see through it it has LSD and if not then no LSD...or maybe vice-versa cant remember but will check for ya..

[HONDA GHANDI]

If both axles aere out and you can see all the way throught hte trans with no ostruction you have an LSD. if there is a steel bar blocking your veiw through the trans you have an open diff. Ill look really quick and see if I have pics.

[HONDA GHANDI]

Thsi is what a JDM LSD looks like when peeking through the trans.

[monicle]

Word em up. LSD it is.

[AcuraBro]

Only thing that really concerns me is that you aren't doing rods and pistons right away. Figure it's only about $1000 more to do that, and you won't have to worry about ring lands going bad and your motor going up in a puff of blue smoke. But budgets are budgets.

[streetspeed]

Do yourself a huge favor and at least check the crank seals for any leakage. The front one is not that big of a deal to change but the rear one is a big deal once the engine is in the car. The tranny would have to come back out. It is a very easy install when everything is laying out on the floor. Just my .02