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NoPepsiForYou
02-16-2003, 09:24 PM
I have been reading the posts here for a while and I have seen a lot of posts saying that Mustangs are pretty slow and that basicly they are no problem to beat in a 1/4 mile.

They have a 215 HP v8 stock...how can that be slow? With mods do they still "suck" or what?:confused: :confused: :confused:

stu
02-16-2003, 09:38 PM
First of all 215hp in a V8 in freakin weak!!!!!!! My dad's 94 Lincoln Mark VIII has like 315hp. Second, they can be made very fast with mods, just like anything else. I have driven both a convertable GT Mustang, (new style) and a convertable Z28 (LS1) and the Camaro was definetly faster. The Mustang was not all that impressive at all, and I had a stock GSR at the time.

Scuba_Steve
02-16-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
I have been reading the posts here for a while and I have seen a lot of posts saying that Mustangs are pretty slow and that basicly they are no problem to beat in a 1/4 mile.

They have a 215 HP v8 stock...how can that be slow? With mods do they still "suck" or what?:confused: :confused: :confused:

It's all about power to weight ratio, 215hp for a car that weighs 3200lbs isn't very impressive. My hatch has 200hp and only weighs 2000lbs, you do the math. :)

NoPepsiForYou
02-16-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by stu
First of all 215hp in a V8 in freakin weak!!!!!!! My dad's 94 Lincoln Mark VIII has like 315hp. Second, they can be made very fast with mods, just like anything else. I have driven both a convertable GT Mustang, (new style) and a convertable Z28 (LS1) and the Camaro was definetly faster. The Mustang was not all that impressive at all, and I had a stock GSR at the time.

I should have done a post more like are Mustangs/Firebirds/Cameros...are those slow?

jojo
02-16-2003, 09:56 PM
The base GTs are rated at 260hp, the Mach 1 is 305hp and the Cobra 390hp.

Fast (or slow) is a relative term. As far as stock cars go the Mustang is a reasonably quick car. However, a stock GT is pretty slow compared to many of the highly modified cars on this board. And yes a Mustang can be modified as well.

Scuba_Steve
02-16-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by jojo
The base GTs are rated at 260hp, the Mach 1 is 305hp and the Cobra 390hp.

Fast (or slow) is a relative term. As far as stock cars go the Mustang is a reasonably quick car. However, a stock GT is pretty slow compared to many of the highly modified cars on this board. And yes a Mustang can be modified as well.

There you have it. The 99+ GT's are pretty quick stock, unlike any stock Civic. 96-98's are pretty weak for a so called "sports car". Never heard of the Mach 1 though, sounds cool, got any pics?

jojo
02-16-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by 92CX
There you have it. The 99+ GT's are pretty quick stock, unlike any stock Civic. 96-98's are pretty weak for a so called "sports car". Never heard of the Mach 1 though, sounds cool, got any pics?

Yeah I keep forgetting about the 96-98s. Those are truly slow by anyone's yardstick. Ugh.

Here's some Mach1 stuff:

http://www.mach1registry.com/

Brian
02-16-2003, 10:50 PM
The new cobra's are pretty insane straight off the showroom floor with a lot of potential for easy bolt on hp. I think a lot of import guys bash mustangs because they are so popular. They are kind of the benchmark in performance for us. I remember how excited I was the first time I beat a mustang. That being said though they are a V8, and as with most other v8's they are usually faster mod for mod, and have more potential than our little motors. There really is no replacement for displacement, but it's always fun trying to keep up with the big dogs while running a 1.6 or 1.8 liter motor :D

NoPepsiForYou
02-16-2003, 10:58 PM
390 HP stock! That's insane!:eek:

Do the 94-98 mustang's have good potential or are they basically F*cked for life?

jojo
02-17-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
390 HP stock! That's insane!:eek:

Do the 94-98 mustang's have good potential or are they basically F*cked for life?

The 94-95 had the pushrod 5.0L motor. It's not very fast stock but it definitely has a strong aftermarket if you've got the inclination.

The 96-98 GTs, like anything else, can go fast if you're willing to spend the money. You're kind of starting in the hole with those - I'd probably try to start with a little stronger model if I were shopping around for a project car. On the other hand the 96-98 Cobras are VERY nice cars: 305hp stock with an all aluminum 32v DOHC motor that responds very well to forced induction. 450-500 rwhp on pump gas is just a bolt on away.

V8SpankR
02-17-2003, 12:42 AM
The '94-'98 GTs rarely broke a 15 at Bandi in stock trim and that is slow for a V8.

'99+ can at least bust off low 15s consistently which was a major step up for the GTs. Mach 1s should be good for at least another half second or so and last year I did see a new Cobra hit a 13.9 at Bandi.

Boostnitup
02-19-2003, 03:52 AM
You will be hard pressed to find a larger aftermarket for any other car.

Don't buy into the 5.0 Mustang being "SLOW." The car has more cubic inches than you! You can tout all the fast rice cars you want against the 5.0 crowd but dollar for dollar they will beat you hands down.

I see these type of posts provided by the DSM crowd... What does a DSM run "stock?" Laughable...

Bedlam
02-19-2003, 11:45 AM
Heh..I was just posting all the information about the current Mustang lineup over at COSR because everyone seemed SO convinced that a new GT would slap the bejezus out of my RSX. I figured that same discussion over here would go a little differently.

I know I wont slap the GT around..but at least I'll give them a run for their money. Its not just some slow PoS Honda.

-Bedlam

b18cya-T
02-19-2003, 12:16 PM
i cant wait till i can slap around the GT's :)

& when they rev at me i can reply with a BOV :D

V8SpankR
02-19-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Boostnitup


I see these type of posts provided by the DSM crowd... What does a DSM run "stock?" Laughable...

The 215hp GTs could not bust off a 15 at Bandi period,when they went to 225hp they might hit a high 15. Now any stock DSM ('90-'99) with a good driver can hit high 15s with an occasional 15.6-15.7,I personally ran a best of 15.72@89mph with mine bone stock.
Year for year the DSMs were generally faster till the the '99 GTs which are good for low 15s but a DSM can hit 14s with just a couple more psi of boost which you can do for as little as $20. IMO of the 90s GTs were slow and I'm not saying because I own a DSM,those are just facts.

I guess if DSMs are "laughable" stock then the aforementioned GTs are just downright "hilarious". :D

V8SpankR
02-19-2003, 12:30 PM
Boostinup,why are you pokin' at DSM guys? This thread was started by somebody with no car.

I know DSM guys have egos but they are in check with most of the members on this board.

SleeperZ
02-19-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
You will be hard pressed to find a larger aftermarket for any other car.

Don't buy into the 5.0 Mustang being "SLOW." The car has more cubic inches than you! You can tout all the fast rice cars you want against the 5.0 crowd but dollar for dollar they will beat you hands down.

I see these type of posts provided by the DSM crowd... What does a DSM run "stock?" Laughable...

Hehe. Dollar for dollar, it's easy to go fast in a 5.0, that's true. It's also cheap to go fast in my car. You can pick up an old Z for $500, put a clutch, turbo and intercooler in it for less than $1500, and you've got what I drive. I call 13's for $2000 pretty cheap, and I've not lost to a N/A 5.0 at the strip yet -- I've beaten a number of supercharged ones to boot. I'm putting another $200-$300 worth of junkyard and fabricated stuff into the fuel and intake systems and fully expect to hit 12's this season.

Notorius
02-19-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
You will be hard pressed to find a larger aftermarket for any other car.

Don't buy into the 5.0 Mustang being "SLOW." The car has more cubic inches than you! You can tout all the fast rice cars you want against the 5.0 crowd but dollar for dollar they will beat you hands down.

I see these type of posts provided by the DSM crowd... What does a DSM run "stock?" Laughable...


COSR hereby sends its apologies for unleashing louie upon the HAI crowd. be wary of his challenges (he cant back them up) and the amount of shit he talks (he runs 14s in a Grand National that hes been modding for years) ill give him props on his loyalty to his cars tho, hell defend them until the end of the world.

V8SpankR
02-19-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Notorius
COSR hereby sends its apologies for unleashing louie upon the HAI crowd. be wary of his challenges (he cant back them up) and the amount of shit he talks (he runs 14s in a Grand National that hes been modding for years) ill give him props on his loyalty to his cars tho, hell defend them until the end of the world.

:D :D :D

He doesn't bother us and I'd gladly invite him to run 'em at Bandi sometime,it's all good.:)

ryanman
02-19-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Notorius
(he runs 14s in a Grand National that hes been modding for years) Bwahahahahah, 14's in a Grand National? WTF is he doin wrong?

NoPepsiForYou
02-19-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
Boostinup,why are you pokin' at DSM guys? This thread was started by somebody with no car.

I know DSM guys have egos but they are in check with most of the members on this board.

Hey I got a beast of a car...a '89 bone stock bottom of the line Civic hatch with 325,000 miles....bitchin':fro:

Im gettin a new one Saturday if I find somethin I like:rolleyes:

b18cya-T
02-19-2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
Hey I got a beast of a car...a '89 bone stock bottom of the line Civic hatch with 325,000 miles....bitchin':fro:

Im gettin a new one Saturday if I find somethin I like:rolleyes:


what a beast!!!
:D



i've been hearing about the 96-98 mustang guys using the 99+gt heads. a fairly cheap mod & makes the 96-98's significantly more powerful

TT5.0
02-20-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by SleeperZ
Hehe. Dollar for dollar, it's easy to go fast in a 5.0, that's true. It's also cheap to go fast in my car. You can pick up an old Z for $500, put a clutch, turbo and intercooler in it for less than $1500, and you've got what I drive. I call 13's for $2000 pretty cheap, and I've not lost to a N/A 5.0 at the strip yet -- I've beaten a number of supercharged ones to boot. I'm putting another $200-$300 worth of junkyard and fabricated stuff into the fuel and intake systems and fully expect to hit 12's this season.
Don't try to take the junkyard route dollar for dollar against 5.0's though, you will lose. I call 502 hp at the wheels for $3000 pretty cheap. Don't get me wrong, I love Z's, and I like your car especially(I've been to your website), but I did what you did, only I used a 5.0 mustang, and 2 turbos.:cool: I fully expect to hit 11's with 10 psi. Can't wait to try 20psi........

WagN2NR
02-20-2003, 11:02 AM
I know the power of a Z28, but I have doubts about 'Stangs. At sealevel, I drove a stang and was not impressed at all. I dont know much about stangs, but I think I drove the V6. My 92 RU could kick the snot out of that stang I drove. My soon to be bro-in-law dirves a slightly mod'ed 400+hp Z28. Once he took me for a spin in his Z28 - From a red light, he layed rubber for about 25 feet then let off. From the go, I was stuck to the seet. I have much respect for Z28's. If you do spend the cash for a fast stang (New), is it worth it?

b18cya-T
02-20-2003, 11:22 AM
i like LT1's & LS1's too :D

GimPin
02-20-2003, 12:13 PM
I have a lot of respect for the 5.0 mainly because I like the old lx body style and the newer 5.0 body style.... I think the main reason so many ppl say mustangs are slow is because there are so many 16-17 year old kids with bone stock mustangs who think they are fast and they flex on everybody. kinda like everybody thinks DSM owners are dicks.... we aren't ALL like that (but would aggree that a large majority of them are :D).

V8SpankR
02-20-2003, 12:30 PM
I'm still waiting for a reply about the "laughable" stock times a DSM runs since apparently he (Boostinup) didn't have a clue about what they ran.

What did late '80s 5.0s run in the 1/4? Didn't they only have 225hp?

TT5.0
02-20-2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
I'm still waiting for a reply about the "laughable" stock times a DSM runs since apparently he (Boostinup) didn't have a clue about what they ran.

What did late '80s 5.0s run in the 1/4? Didn't they only have 225hp?
Yes, but they have 300 ft.-lbs of torque stock, which makes a big difference. That's why 5.0's are strong from a 2nd gear drop, which is nice for most little in-town street races. I drove an 89 LX coupe at bandimere and it ran a 15.2 at 92 mph. The car was bone stock and had 192,000 miles on the clock. It still had the stock highway gears too. It felt stronger than my 90 GSX everywhere but off the line. Of course, the GSX was bone stock also, with boost at the factory setting.

SleeperZ
02-20-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by TT5.0
Don't try to take the junkyard route dollar for dollar against 5.0's though, you will lose. I call 502 hp at the wheels for $3000 pretty cheap. Don't get me wrong, I love Z's, and I like your car especially(I've been to your website), but I did what you did, only I used a 5.0 mustang, and 2 turbos.:cool: I fully expect to hit 11's with 10 psi. Can't wait to try 20psi........

I'd call that pretty cheap too. Sorry, I have to take the junkyard route, as I don't have the funds to throw at the car (wife, kids, mortgage, the usual).

Unfortunately there don't seem to be many 5.0s taking the junkyard route - they don't seem to be out there. I'm sure if more 5.0 owners took that route, they'd be faster. :D Most seem to take the expensive bolt-on route and end up slower than me ;)

TT5.0
02-20-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by SleeperZ
I'd call that pretty cheap too. Sorry, I have to take the junkyard route, as I don't have the funds to throw at the car (wife, kids, mortgage, the usual).

Unfortunately there don't seem to be many 5.0s taking the junkyard route - they don't seem to be out there. I'm sure if more 5.0 owners took that route, they'd be faster. :D Most seem to take the expensive bolt-on route and end up slower than me ;)
:D You sound like my evil twin. Most 5.0 guys that I know hate me because they spend assloads of money, and my junkmobile will eat them alive. It's all about good planning, knowing what works for the easiest, cheapest gains, and good tuning. It also doesn't hurt to have a little turbo advantage at altitude...;) I know guys who have spent 10's of thousands on their mustangs, and I usually ask them "So, when's your car going to be able to keep up with mine?", or just "Wanna race?" I hear lots of excuses.:cool:

jojo
02-20-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by WagN2NR
I drove a stang and was not impressed at all. I dont know much about stangs, but I think I drove the V6.

Well that would certainly do it. I can beat a 6 banger stang on foot!

jojo
02-20-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by TT5.0
Don't try to take the junkyard route dollar for dollar against 5.0's though, you will lose. I call 502 hp at the wheels for $3000 pretty cheap. Don't get me wrong, I love Z's, and I like your car especially(I've been to your website), but I did what you did, only I used a 5.0 mustang, and 2 turbos.:cool: I fully expect to hit 11's with 10 psi. Can't wait to try 20psi........

I'll see your junkard turbo 5.0 and raise you a junkyard turbo 454.

jojo
02-20-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by SleeperZ

Unfortunately there don't seem to be many 5.0s taking the junkyard route - they don't seem to be out there. I'm sure if more 5.0 owners took that route, they'd be faster. :D Most seem to take the expensive bolt-on route and end up slower than me ;)

For whatever reason, it seems like most Mustang guys up here are hell bent on NA buildups, which won't hang with even mildly modified turbo cars. IMO if you want to go really fast, up here in the clouds, you need to be thinking about big boost or some big squeeze. Those flowmasters and shorty headers just ain't gonna beat the single turbo Supra down the block. Sorry :(

V8SpankR
02-21-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by TT5.0
Yes, but they have 300 ft.-lbs of torque stock, which makes a big difference. That's why 5.0's are strong from a 2nd gear drop, which is nice for most little in-town street races. I drove an 89 LX coupe at bandimere and it ran a 15.2 at 92 mph. The car was bone stock and had 192,000 miles on the clock. It still had the stock highway gears too. It felt stronger than my 90 GSX everywhere but off the line. Of course, the GSX was bone stock also, with boost at the factory setting.

Finally somebody that is talking from experience.
I figured most late 80s/early 90s 5.0s were a bit faster than the '94'98 GTs. Wasn't the '93 Cobra with 240hp only good for mid 14s asl?

DnVr
02-21-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
You can tout all the fast rice cars you want against the 5.0 crowd but dollar for dollar they will beat you hands down.

I see these type of posts provided by the DSM crowd... What does a DSM run "stock?" Laughable...
ok, hypothetically speaking, dollar for dollar we were to pick up a beater 1g dsm and a beater 5.0 say we each picked the vehicles up for 1500$ in working order. both cars are stock and we have a big mod budget of 200$ each. just how fast can the 5.0 go for a measly 200 $?
I believe that for the 200$ the dsm would be capable of a low 14 at this altitude. I raced my share of 5.0s and imo the 5.0 cant hit a low 14 up here for 200$

jojo
02-21-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by DnVr
ok, hypothetically speaking, dollar for dollar we were to pick up a beater 1g dsm and a beater 5.0 say we each picked the vehicles up for 1500$ in working order. both cars are stock and we have a big mod budget of 200$ each. just how fast can the 5.0 go for a measly 200 $?
I believe that for the 200$ the dsm would be capable of a low 14 at this altitude. I raced my share of 5.0s and imo the 5.0 cant hit a low 14 up here for 200$

A Mustang is cheaper to put into the eights :D

V8SpankR
02-21-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by jojo
A Mustang is cheaper to put into the eights :D


Ohhhh,that one smarts. :smashfrea

So true.

DnVr
02-21-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by jojo
A Mustang is cheaper to put into the eights :D I'll give ya that!:D

stu
02-21-2003, 12:57 PM
There is probably a bell curve (parabola) or somehting that would accurately represent the cost per horsepower outputs of the two cars. At the small end, the DSM sounds like it has a better bang for the buck, then they start to get a little more even as the budget increases. I would go on but I have no idea what I'm talking about.:p

TT5.0
02-21-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by DnVr
ok, hypothetically speaking, dollar for dollar we were to pick up a beater 1g dsm and a beater 5.0 say we each picked the vehicles up for 1500$ in working order. both cars are stock and we have a big mod budget of 200$ each. just how fast can the 5.0 go for a measly 200 $?
I believe that for the 200$ the dsm would be capable of a low 14 at this altitude. I raced my share of 5.0s and imo the 5.0 cant hit a low 14 up here for 200$
Used nitrous setup......and some big pills. 12's? I ran a 180 shot of nitrous on a bone stock 5.0 carburated motor. It was definitely faster than 14's.

V8SpankR
02-21-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by TT5.0
Used nitrous setup......and some big pills. 12's? I ran a 180 shot of nitrous on a bone stock 5.0 carburated motor. It was definitely faster than 14's.

But alas,only temporary. Renting horespower sucks. ;)

DnVr
02-21-2003, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by TT5.0
Used nitrous setup......and some big pills. 12's? I ran a 180 shot of nitrous on a bone stock 5.0 carburated motor. It was definitely faster than 14's. dsm's respond to the bottle as well.. hmm.. boost.. nitrous we could go on all day.

jojo
02-21-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by DnVr
dsm's respond to the bottle as well.. hmm.. boost.. nitrous we could go on all day.

Yes we could. I've owned both 5.0s and a turbo DSM. I'm calling it a draw. :cool: If you're willing to turn a wrench either car can make a great platform for going fast on a budget.

jojo
02-21-2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by stu
I would go on but I have no idea what I'm talking about.:p

That's ok, neither does anyone else. Let's face it, we're all full of shit when you get right down to it :D

DnVr
02-21-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by jojo
Yes we could. I've owned both 5.0s and a turbo DSM. I'm calling it a draw. :cool: If you're willing to turn a wrench either car can make a great platform for going fast on a budget. I can agree with that:cool:

TT5.0
02-21-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by jojo
I'll see your junkard turbo 5.0 and raise you a junkyard turbo 454.
I'll have to bump that to a junkyard turbo 460.

I'm going to have to agree on the draw I guess. Of the many budget hotrods I've owned, I would have to say that the GSX and the Mustang were the most fun.

V8SpankR
02-21-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by TT5.0
I would have to say that the GSX and the Mustang were the most fun.


I'll have to quote you on DSMTalk since I don't think they hear stuff like that out of Mustang owner's mouths. ;);)

Now I just got to prove I'm not making it up. :D

SleeperZ
02-21-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
I'll have to quote you on DSMTalk since I don't think they hear stuff like that out of Mustang owner's mouths. ;);)

Now I just got to prove I'm not making it up. :D

:rofl:
:Beer:

Boostnitup
02-22-2003, 04:34 AM
Bwahahahahah, 14's in a Grand National? WTF is he doin wrong?

nothing...

Took the car to PMI after an all night thrash session replacing a blown head gasket from a nitrous test session on the east end of town. Of all the times for it to let go... two nights before track time. I survived the process on little sleep after working a midshift - a true diehard here.

I didn't get any free time to work the gremlins out of it... and I didn't run across town and borrow a set of drag radials either. Traction was pitiful that day... my best leaving off idle was 2.78 60 foot using 235/60/15 BFG street radials (leaving off boost would only leave me sitting there spinning the tires... and yes I have a posi)

I raced the car the way I drive it on the street... on 91 octane fuel and yes... a measily 12 pounds boost.

The WS6 6 speed TA I raced was slower than me thru the quarter mile... not a bad outing considering my lack of sleep, and my having to get it running again on a limited timeline. Believe me... the car is much faster than a 14.22 102 mph. The difference between leaving the line at 5lbs boost and leaving the line at "idle" is night and day.

On one run I blew an intercooler hose at half track and still beat out half the guys that went to the event in our group. 14.58 / 82 mph... that was coasting at idle the remaining half of the run too.

yellowmustang
03-05-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
Bwahahahahah, 14's in a Grand National? WTF is he doin wrong?

nothing...

Took the car to PMI after an all night thrash session replacing a blown head gasket from a nitrous test session on the east end of town. Of all the times for it to let go... two nights before track time. I survived the process on little sleep after working a midshift - a true diehard here.

I didn't get any free time to work the gremlins out of it... and I didn't run across town and borrow a set of drag radials either. Traction was pitiful that day... my best leaving off idle was 2.78 60 foot using 235/60/15 BFG street radials (leaving off boost would only leave me sitting there spinning the tires... and yes I have a posi)

I raced the car the way I drive it on the street... on 91 octane fuel and yes... a measily 12 pounds boost.

The WS6 6 speed TA I raced was slower than me thru the quarter mile... not a bad outing considering my lack of sleep, and my having to get it running again on a limited timeline. Believe me... the car is much faster than a 14.22 102 mph. The difference between leaving the line at 5lbs boost and leaving the line at "idle" is night and day.

On one run I blew an intercooler hose at half track and still beat out half the guys that went to the event in our group. 14.58 / 82 mph... that was coasting at idle the remaining half of the run too.

STFU your embarrassing all the domestic drivers who aren't total retards like you.

sizzzletits
03-05-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
Bwahahahahah, 14's in a Grand National? WTF is he doin wrong?

nothing...

Took the car to PMI after an all night thrash session replacing a blown head gasket from a nitrous test session on the east end of town. Of all the times for it to let go... two nights before track time. I survived the process on little sleep after working a midshift - a true diehard here.

I didn't get any free time to work the gremlins out of it... and I didn't run across town and borrow a set of drag radials either. Traction was pitiful that day... my best leaving off idle was 2.78 60 foot using 235/60/15 BFG street radials (leaving off boost would only leave me sitting there spinning the tires... and yes I have a posi)

I raced the car the way I drive it on the street... on 91 octane fuel and yes... a measily 12 pounds boost.

The WS6 6 speed TA I raced was slower than me thru the quarter mile... not a bad outing considering my lack of sleep, and my having to get it running again on a limited timeline. Believe me... the car is much faster than a 14.22 102 mph. The difference between leaving the line at 5lbs boost and leaving the line at "idle" is night and day.

On one run I blew an intercooler hose at half track and still beat out half the guys that went to the event in our group. 14.58 / 82 mph... that was coasting at idle the remaining half of the run too.


you have a new excuse EVERYFUCKINGTIME i swear, so now its you blew a head gasket huh? and working the gremlins out? explain exactly how changing a head gasket will change your tuning, since you seem to be mister expert here, oh and your 14.2 run, i have a vid of it on my comp. and i saw nor hear ANY tire spin, so tell me, what are your new excuses gonna be?


and to the rest of HAI, im sorry boostinitup is on this board also.

Demon Dakota
03-06-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
The '94-'98 GTs rarely broke a 15 at Bandi in stock trim and that is slow for a V8.

'99+ can at least bust off low 15s consistently which was a major step up for the GTs. Mach 1s should be good for at least another half second or so and last year I did see a new Cobra hit a 13.9 at Bandi.

99+ stock GT's hit 13.9x's with deadly consistency, but that's here in GA (not way the hell up in the mountains of CO). I didn't realize there was that much of a performance difference between here and there, but that just goes to show how much of a factor mother nature can be.

exciv2000
03-06-2003, 05:15 PM
it's not really mother nature, it's physics.

V8SpankR
03-06-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Demon Dakota
99+ stock GT's hit 13.9x's with deadly consistency, but that's here in GA (not way the hell up in the mountains of CO). I didn't realize there was that much of a performance difference between here and there, but that just goes to show how much of a factor mother nature can be.

NA cars lose a little over a second up here but turbo cars give up generally less than a second since they can still hit the same boost that they would at sea level but the turbo will have to spin faster. Once cars are modded a bit and tuned to run up here they can narrow the time gap from sea level tho'.

Even top fuel dragsters lose a couple tenths up here.

Demon Dakota
03-06-2003, 08:15 PM
Man...that would put my truck back to around stock times then. I'd be kinda pissed if I ran it there and only got mid 15's after the manual labor I've put into it.

V8SpankR
03-06-2003, 08:55 PM
Yep,it sucks but every car has the same disadvantage.

Boostnitup
03-09-2003, 01:54 PM
Yellowstang, and Sizzlemoron...

There are many members willing to state that "Yes... Louie blew a headgasket prior to the event." You didn't see the tires spin on the line? hmmm... you must have been watching someone else's rear end and not mine you gay losers. 2.78 60 foot time should spell it out for those unable to see the light any other way.

BTW... these two hose heads are trolls on the COSR board. They have a select group of buddies who go downtown to get an extra blow job so they can bring one back for them.

BTW... Sizzlemoron has a car bought for him by his mommy and daddy.

Yellowstang is just pissed because he knows his chance of beating the grandma car is zilch... and oh yes do I relish racing him at PMI in 2003... Believe me... I will rub it in.

yellowmustang
03-09-2003, 04:22 PM
http://www.cosr.com/forum1/index.php?act=ST&f=70&t=8093&s=bf1d2904c3f8c8e2b4a6cd1

Refer to this link, everyone on cosr feels the same way about boostinitup, he runs his mouth like the little pussy IBR he is then refuses to race anyone.

Boostnitup
04-01-2003, 05:07 AM
Yellowstang... I was at PMI on 30 March... where were you funny boy?

You post two times... TROLL.

This guy and his cliquish hand holding buddies will consistently support one another... regardless of the facts. They wish they could race at PMI... then they look in their wallets and realize they don't have the $30 to be able to do it.

john
04-01-2003, 07:09 AM
*yawn*

You guys are freaking drama queens...

sizzzletits
04-02-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
Yellowstang... I was at PMI on 30 March... where were you funny boy?

You post two times... TROLL.

This guy and his cliquish hand holding buddies will consistently support one another... regardless of the facts. They wish they could race at PMI... then they look in their wallets and realize they don't have the $30 to be able to do it.


how about u post your times louie? you say you can smoke yellowmustang, so far i havent seen any times that would be anywhere close to him. maybe a good race for my fucking truck.

69stang
04-02-2003, 02:18 PM
If you have the dough, the New Cobra is bad to the Bone, a MACH 1 is unreachable due to the low production numbers, or if are willing to pay huge markups by the seleect dealers that have them.

A great project car would be a late 80's early 90's 5.0

They have the best aftermarket out there imo.
And besides, Mustangs are cool

:)

Boostnitup
04-02-2003, 11:54 PM
John...

You know what gets me is that so many guys on the board see me show up but they refuse to put the ass clowns opening their holes in their proper place. Let's face it... they don't show up, they don't participate with us, and then they post a bunch of crap on the board.

You have actually met me...

YellowStang... I took my 155,250 mile LX 5.0 to the track. It has the original exhaust, plugged cat converters (original), and even with the lousy track conditions put down a 15.54 at 90.66 mph. Not bad for a "stock" Mustang.

Drag radials, a swapped out exhaust (I'm replacing it all in the next week), and finally getting the free time to install a dual stage Compucar nitrous kit and 255lph fuel pump. Want some? We can make it happen clown boy... but again... YOU WON"T SHOW UP!

Sizzletits... you fall in the category of opening your hole a bunch and not showing up too! You can claim you have all of the grunt and a bag of chips... but what good is it if you won't show up? Until then it is YOU that is the IBR. The facts support me... Your screaming longer and louder doesn't change the fact that you are never ever going to step up to the plate. Pwned!

yellowmustang
04-03-2003, 12:19 PM
Drag radials, a swapped out exhaust (I'm replacing it all in the next week), and finally getting the free time to install a dual stage Compucar nitrous kit and 255lph fuel pump. Want some? We can make it happen clown boy... but again... YOU WON"T SHOW UP!

I never did not show up for anything, just because you went to ONE fucking test and tune you say no one else ever does aything, your a fucking joke. Your the one thats said how bad you would beat so and so but then never have the balls to fucking race them. And like in the above quote your the one that always has to do something before you race someone... just wait till I do this...just wait till I do that, bla, bla, bla. I'll be happy to go work any car you got GN or Stang and I'll do it tomarrow, I'm sure that there not ready and you'll have some little bitch ass excuse.

b18cya-T
04-03-2003, 12:25 PM
wierd...im reading this last page...but i scroll to the top & dont see the letters C O S or R...

V8SpankR
04-03-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Obi Wan B18cya
wierd...im reading this last page...but i scroll to the top & dont see the letters C O S or R...


:spit: ;NutKick;

XakEp
04-03-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
John...

You know what gets me is that so many guys on the board see me show up but they refuse to put the ass clowns opening their holes in their proper place. Let's face it... they don't show up, they don't participate with us, and then they post a bunch of crap on the board.

You have actually met me...

YellowStang... I took my 155,250 mile LX 5.0 to the track. It has the original exhaust, plugged cat converters (original), and even with the lousy track conditions put down a 15.54 at 90.66 mph. Not bad for a "stock" Mustang.

Drag radials, a swapped out exhaust (I'm replacing it all in the next week), and finally getting the free time to install a dual stage Compucar nitrous kit and 255lph fuel pump. Want some? We can make it happen clown boy... but again... YOU WON"T SHOW UP!

Sizzletits... you fall in the category of opening your hole a bunch and not showing up too! You can claim you have all of the grunt and a bag of chips... but what good is it if you won't show up? Until then it is YOU that is the IBR. The facts support me... Your screaming longer and louder doesn't change the fact that you are never ever going to step up to the plate. Pwned!

OMFG. Louie is on here too? No one ever shows up? Ok... here's a little something...

GET YOUR PUSSY MOTHERFUCKING COUSIN FUCKING ASS UP HERE TO BANDIMERE AND I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL NOT ONLY BLOW YOUR FUCKING DOORS OFF BUT I'LL ALSO DO IT IN MY WEE LITTLE 4 BANGER DSM.

If you arent a little buttrapist you'll bring your worthless car up to Bandimere so that the dozens of people you've pissed off will actually race you. No one goes to PMI cause ITS A FUCKING WORTHLESS TRACK. Grass coming up through the cracks in the asphalt, no track prep and asshole staff along with not being allowed to run in the groove makes for a BIG FUCKING WASTE OF MONEY. KINDA LIKE THE MONEY YOUR PARENTS DIDNT SPEND ON YOUR ABORTION.

I might as well go out to Stapleton and race on the tarmac.

I challenged you here and on COSR. Now whats the motherfucking answer going to be. Just cause you go somewhere no one else wants to go and dont go where they are DOESNT FUCKING MEAN THEY WONT RACE YOU.

Bring it on. You have 2 weeks.

dsmsv8bro
04-03-2003, 02:50 PM
boostitnup i hope you lose bad, race em panzi. my money is on anyone but boostnitup

Boostnitup
04-06-2003, 12:42 AM
Xageek! <--- resident lamer of COSR.

He never shows up to anything... its always his clutch, or his asshole hurts.

Yellowstang... you'll see me often at the Friday night drags at PMI. You won't miss me in the crowd... I'm the guy with a big grin on his face. As for the car not being ready... hmmm I have already stated the GN will be ready by June. I'm throwing my money at the green snowball right now... new exhaust, drag radials, and the nitrous system will be installed. Guess we can make this happen once the parts are on the car. Think you have a shot? We'll see!

dsmsv8bro
04-07-2003, 10:10 AM
i'll see you ther one day. i drive a 67 nova boxy kinfda car blue in color with a cowel induc hood. i'll race you. look for me when our done. june right? :)

BoarderAJAX
04-07-2003, 10:26 AM
Slow and Mustang, two words that seem to go hand in hand

Mike

Boostnitup
04-08-2003, 02:34 AM
I should have the GN ready by mid June.

New stainless headers and crossover, a much larger turbo, and larger injectors.

IRACEIT is the plate. You can't miss it.

dsmsv8bro
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
i won't miss it, good luck with your car don't run out of money

XakEp
04-08-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Boostnitup
Xageek! <--- resident lamer of COSR.

He never shows up to anything... its always his clutch, or his asshole hurts.

Yellowstang... you'll see me often at the Friday night drags at PMI. You won't miss me in the crowd... I'm the guy with a big grin on his face. As for the car not being ready... hmmm I have already stated the GN will be ready by June. I'm throwing my money at the green snowball right now... new exhaust, drag radials, and the nitrous system will be installed. Guess we can make this happen once the parts are on the car. Think you have a shot? We'll see!

Hey fuckface - name one time where I didnt show at Bandimere. I'M ALWAYS THERE YOU PUSSY. You, on the other hand, have spent the last 3 years bitching about how your GN never runs. If the board archives hadnt gotten wiped out I'd post your pathetic excuses here too.

jmcdo28
05-10-2003, 10:12 AM
yall talk about junk cars... heres one for you,

86 mustang notch, v6, installed crown vic 5.0 and modified aod trans, 69 windsor heads, lunati hyd roller cam, headers, homemade 2 stage nos system, 3.73 gears, nitto drag radial tires,
running 11.80s and im fat on second stage. with sliks and some tuning ill run 10s

car 1500
mods 3000
beating a bee hive sounding, front wheel spinning, carbonfiber wing wearing rice car

PRICELESS

86 MUSTANG 11.84 @ 113 DARLINGTON SC

tsitim
05-10-2003, 12:00 PM
someone ban these asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a big waste of hard drive space oh I will beat you may of 04' when I got my new space ship and then I might get some NOS oh ya I'm cool!!!

jojo
05-10-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by jmcdo28
yall talk about junk cars... heres one for you,

86 mustang notch, v6, installed crown vic 5.0 and modified aod trans, 69 windsor heads, lunati hyd roller cam, headers, homemade 2 stage nos system, 3.73 gears, nitto drag radial tires,
running 11.80s and im fat on second stage. with sliks and some tuning ill run 10s

car 1500
mods 3000
beating a bee hive sounding, front wheel spinning, carbonfiber wing wearing rice car

PRICELESS

86 MUSTANG 11.84 @ 113 DARLINGTON SC


Wow! 113 at sea level. You couldn't even hang with some of the Civics up here!! Please STFU and go away.

john
05-10-2003, 01:09 PM
I can't wait to meet some of you guys face to face...

jmcdo28
05-10-2003, 07:01 PM
like i said asshole, it didnt cost shit, how much did you spend and how fast do you go?

John McDonald
Ford Senior Master Tech

V8SpankR
05-11-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by jmcdo28
like i said asshole, it didnt cost shit, how much did you spend and how fast do you go?

John McDonald
Ford Senior Master Tech


John owned a pretty sweet car and the only thing I'll say is he was faster than you are up here at 5800ft and he did it with a I6 and NO nitrous.

BoraTurbo
05-11-2003, 03:38 PM
cough 126mph trap cough

stu
05-11-2003, 04:54 PM
cough6,000ftcough

jojo
05-11-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by jmcdo28
like i said asshole, it didnt cost shit, how much did you spend and how fast do you go?

John McDonald
Ford Senior Master Tech

Word to the wise: Don't come onto a new board talking shit and and being disrespectful. You're not going to impress many with that. I would like to think that a Mustang owner and Ford Tech could do a little better than that.

springs_stang
05-12-2003, 10:20 PM
Well, I for one am glad everyone thinks my car slow, which did come from the factory with a huge :rolleyes: 215hp rating, compared to the 99+ with 260hp. The lowly 96-98 GTs can be made faster NA than even the 99+ cars with the the right oem parts :D

ryanman
05-12-2003, 10:29 PM
;GiVeS:

springs_stang
05-12-2003, 11:44 PM
Who died and made you king shit of turd island?:rolleyes:

LeonZ
05-13-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by springs_stang
Who died and made you king shit of turd island?:rolleyes:

dont touch ryanman, he is the :king: :PIMP: :fro: ;RoCkOn;

stu
05-13-2003, 01:12 AM
I've been thinking about buying a Mustang lately.

LeonZ
05-13-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by stu
I've been thinking about buying a Mustang lately.

I have been into weird things lately also. Don't worry man, the semester is pretty much over... Your self-integrity will come back to you...

springs_stang
05-13-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by LeonZ
dont touch ryanman, he is the :king: :PIMP: :fro: ;RoCkOn;

I think you mean he is ;gay;

Iceman_19
06-01-2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
The '94-'98 GTs rarely broke a 15 at Bandi in stock trim and that is slow for a V8.

'99+ can at least bust off low 15s consistently which was a major step up for the GTs. Mach 1s should be good for at least another half second or so and last year I did see a new Cobra hit a 13.9 at Bandi.

im sorry pal, but i have a 96 GT and i have a timeslip for 14.63 @ 98.6mph. its basicly stock. all i have is flowmaster mufflers (sound) k&n filter (doesnt really do anything) and an aftermarket shifter (for never missing those nasty 3rd gear shifts). also, the 99+'s are good for high 13s, and the cobras are good for mid 12s or so. dont know what you have been reading, but you are WAY OFF. and yes, the 96-98 are WAY underpowered.

Iceman_19
06-01-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by V8SpankR
I'm still waiting for a reply about the "laughable" stock times a DSM runs since apparently he (Boostinup) didn't have a clue about what they ran.

What did late '80s 5.0s run in the 1/4? Didn't they only have 225hp?
87-93 mustang lx coupe with the 5.0 could bang off low 14 second runs stock. ive even heard of them hitting 13s, 100% stock. yeah, only 225hp, back in 1987. how much hp was honda putting out then? 80? 90?

1998cc
06-01-2003, 09:53 AM
Wow, way to resurect a dead thread. No one cares anymore.

V8SpankR
06-01-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Iceman_19
im sorry pal, but i have a 96 GT and i have a timeslip for 14.63 @ 98.6mph. its basicly stock. all i have is flowmaster mufflers (sound) k&n filter (doesnt really do anything) and an aftermarket shifter (for never missing those nasty 3rd gear shifts). also, the 99+'s are good for high 13s, and the cobras are good for mid 12s or so. dont know what you have been reading, but you are WAY OFF. and yes, the 96-98 are WAY underpowered.


Uh,where are you from? apperantly not from here which is at 5800ft and that's where I said the stock GTs were good for a high 15s.
Maybe you need to fully read the post accurately (I do mention which strip) before you attack somebody. I do know my shit as most NA cars lose about a second up here. You said you ran a 14.6,well up here that would translate to a high 15s. TA-DA!! I do know what I'm talking about,I've only been racing up here for 10years and I know what nearly every car runs stock up here.

Here's an example: Z06 Vettes - mid 13s with a perfect launch and guess what? My best so far on low boost (17psi) was a 13.38@101mph so at sea level I'm quicker than a current stock Mustang Cobra which run about 13.9s up here.

I know you didn'y figure that we are over a mile high above sea level so I won't hold a grudge but please read a little more carefully and remember that when people post their 1/4 mile times.

Boostnitup
06-10-2007, 10:40 AM
Holy Thread revival...

COSR is still a shit hole. It amazes me how the 16 year olds are now in their 20's... and they still have nothing to show for it. :) Most are still living with Mommy and Daddy too. I guess we can blame the thin air on that one?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/724000-724999/724110_162_full.jpg

Let's just face it... the Mustang is a better car. That is a 432 windsor in the frame rails... enjoy and drool. :)

As for the GN... it sits in the garage awaiting it's turn. I'll be twisting more wrenches on it over the next few weeks. It has sat in the garage way too long while the parts have accumulated for install. My turbo is bigger than YOUR turbo.

M@
06-10-2007, 11:31 AM
Uhhh, looks like a cluster fuck of wires and lines because the "mechanic" (you.. pfffft) doesn't know wtf he's doing. And it STILL only dyno'd at what... 300 hp? LOL. My little 1.8L made that on a measily 13 psi. You're still slow and always will be. Carry on Lo(ser)uie.

V8SpankR
06-10-2007, 11:37 AM
I thought I was in a time warp. :)

ryanman
06-10-2007, 11:38 AM
Wow, looks like a clusterfuck.

Boostnitup
06-10-2007, 11:43 AM
The 347 that was in the car sits in the garage... it put down to the rear wheels 352.5 horses and 360lbs torque... untuned. Please get your stats correct next time...

There is a 432 Windsor in the car now... I suggest you add 100 horses, and 100 in torque as well. Of course your math skills might suck and you'll think it is something else.

M@
06-10-2007, 06:29 PM
Psh. I'm still not scared. My motor alone on a measily 20 psi would put those numbers to shame. Again, just a wittle 1.8L. Awww.

V8SpankR
06-11-2007, 05:52 AM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/v8spankr/IMG_0008.jpg


I really miss my Mustang beater.

2fastNturn
06-11-2007, 12:23 PM
Weak sauce

HONDA GHANDI
06-11-2007, 03:50 PM
Barb raced a mustang in the Hellement the other day and hung with it for 2 gears. So that makes Ford's sports car ghey.

M@
06-11-2007, 04:05 PM
:rofl:

V8SpankR
06-12-2007, 09:59 AM
Maybe noobs should brush up on this thread.........:)

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/showthread.php?t=1800&highlight=%2789+mustang+gt

i drive crap
06-16-2007, 06:57 PM
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/quickie70/toyota1.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/quickie70/toyota.jpg

he he. my old mustang killer.