What's up?

[88Alltrac]

Hey, I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Steve and I have 2 celicas and a Camaro. 88 All-Trac (shooting for 10's this summer,) 86 GTS Celica (daily driver, should run mid 13's,) and my slow-ass 77 Type-LT Camaro is stock.

[CSMsi311]

welcome.

Could you educate me a little about that All-Trac?

I definitely going to have to make it to Bandi a few times to see everyone's cars.

jason

[JDX]

Yeah for sure... I want to see if my Piece will run under a 20 too, so I definitly have to go up there for sure. And hey... Welcome man... I completly love the 88's, the 84's are my fav but you got pretty close man, good luck with that and thanx for joining us.

[95GSRB18C]

what do those All trac's run stock anyways?

[1998cc]

Originally posted by 88Alltrac
Hey, I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Steve and I have 2 celicas and a Camaro. 88 All-Trac (shooting for 10's this summer,) 86 GTS Celica (daily driver, should run mid 13's,) and my slow-ass 77 Type-LT Camaro is stock. To run 10's you need a fully built 3sgte with a huge turbo. I know of only a hand full of people running 10's at sea level.

[Brian]

what do you have done to your daily driver to put you i nthe 13's? Have you ever run either car at bandimere?

Welcome BTW...

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by 1998cc
To run 10's you need a fully built 3sgte with a huge turbo. I know of only a hand full of people running 10's at sea level.

And those I do have. Can we say GT35R? :)

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by CSMsi311
welcome.

Could you educate me a little about that All-Trac?

I definitely going to have to make it to Bandi a few times to see everyone's cars.

jason

The All-Trac is a turbo-charged, all-wheel drive model of the Celica. It was designed so that toyota could compete in Rallying. They won a LOT of races with the All-Trac, but eventually moved on to different cars. The name All-Trac stands for All-Traction. It's known in Japan as the GT-4. There are 3 generations of the all-trac, the us only saw the first 2. The first generation goes from 86-89, the second from 90-93 and the third is from 94-99. They all come with the 3S-GTE, 2L 16v engine.

The first generations had 190hp stock, second had 200hp stock and the third puts out 250-260hp stock. The first 2 generations use the CT-26 turbo, which is efficent to 16psi. The first generation's ecu is mapped to 15.5psi, but is set anywhere between 6 and 12psi stock, depending on elevation. Down here, of course, we run ~6psi. The engine has serious potential, the stock engine/turbo with bpu's will put out 250hp+ for the first 2 generations.

The third has been known to put out 290hp stock (has fuel and ignition maps up to 17psi, 550cc injectors and uses a larger turbo: the CT-20B.) The first and third generations both used water-intercoolers (the third generation's being good for over 400hp, the first being efficient untill about 300hp.) The second generation all-trac is the one with the hood-scoop and 2 vents.

ALSO: Stock, they weigh in on scales, according to what people have told me, at ~3200lbs for the first generation. There is of course, the even more rare, WRC/CS edition, but your lucky as hell if you can get one. ;)

Let me know if you have any questions. I plan to have the fastest street-legal celica in the state of Colorado and one of the fastest in the US.

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by 1EightT
what do you have done to your daily driver to put you i nthe 13's? Have you ever run either car at bandimere?

Welcome BTW...


My daily-driver is a FWD GTS and has a 1st generation 3s-gte in it running 16psi it puts out around 250-260hp. Has basic mods, intake, exhaust, boost.. Nothing too fancy, I wanted it to be reliable. My time was estimated, but for now I will verify that with a G-Tech Comp meter whenever it gets here.

[WagN2NR]

Welcome to HAI!!!

WOW your a man with a plan! and a goal! I plan to hold the same records, but with a Wagon....

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by B18C1TurboTeg
what do those All trac's run stock anyways?

Generally speaking for the first and second generations: low 15's with a decent driver at stock boost levels. mid to high 14's if the driver is good and car is running 16psi.

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by WagN2NR
Welcome to HAI!!!

WOW your a man with a plan! and a goal! I plan to hold the same records, but with a Wagon....

Very cool! I'm VERY serious about my 88 All-Trac running 10s..hopefully I'll get deep in the 10s and be #1 in the US. (God, do I love winning!)

[WagN2NR]

Originally posted by 88Alltrac
Very cool! I'm VERY serious about my 88 All-Trac running 10s..hopefully I'll get deep in the 10s and be #1 in the US. (God, do I love winning!)

You have raced in the past?

[88Alltrac]

Originally posted by WagN2NR
You have raced in the past?

Not legally.. heh..I mean..of course I raced legally.. :)

[1998cc]

Originally posted by 88Alltrac
And those I do have. Can we say GT35R? :) There are guys laying down 425hp on those with SR20DET's. Sweet I have always wanted an all-trac. I like the st185 better though.

[MRGurl]

Welcome!!!!!

[b18cya-T]

welcome...beware of Minimonster...even tho he's quite harmless

[CSMsi311]

sweet car. Good luck with your goals. I'd like to see that car run.

Jason

[Brian]

mmmm GT35 :D

My upgrades call for a GT25 here soon for my daily driver

[V8SpankR]

Looking forward to seeing a fellow AWD competitor out at Bandi,there's nothing like a good AWD launch.
I'm shooting for consistent 1.7 60's this summer but I have a feeling I'll be buying another 2600lb clutch soon. :mad:

[Brian]

Originally posted by V8SpankR
Looking forward to seeing a fellow AWD competitor out at Bandi,there's nothing like a good AWD launch.
I'm shooting for consistent 1.7 60's this summer but I have a feeling I'll be buying another 2600lb clutch soon. :mad:

Damn paul what is that, like number 11 since i've known you? j/k