Gettin a 90 TSI :D Need some help! Parts ?'s [Archive]

Talonstylz

11-11-2002, 10:52 PM

Hey guys, finally gettin a sweet car! White 90 TSI, 107k miles, perfect condition all around cept the clutch for $2700. I test drove it today and im all giddy bout it. Anyway, the clutch is pretty much fried, id give it maybe 1000 miles b4 it goes, my ? is does anyone have any clutches sittin around they would be willing to sell, i also think ill need a new flywheel, the guy installed the clutch himself and didnt machine the flywheel at all, said its been slipping since he installed it, so i think the flywheel might also be fried, i just need some help finding parts, any websites u DSM guys go to for parts??? Ill be a DSM guy soon too! and i need to find some good parts sites. Thanks!

p.s. OMG i love AWD turbo, it makes me veeeery giddy :D

V8SpankR

11-11-2002, 11:05 PM

www.buschurracing.com

www.roadraceengineering.com

Buy an ACT2600lb clutch and you won't be sorry.

Talonstylz

11-12-2002, 12:30 AM

Thanks!

95GSRB18C

11-14-2002, 12:13 AM

I'm gonna go check out the yard tomorrow. if i find a flywheel, i'll pick one up for ya.

MedliAWD

11-14-2002, 01:35 PM

Congrats on joining the dark side. Go with the ACT2600 like Paul said. I love mine :)

b18cya-T

11-14-2002, 01:37 PM

so now we have 2 guys named paul with 1st gen DSM's?

Talonstylz

11-14-2002, 05:26 PM

Haha, didnt realize that till i read your post titus, good times :) MedliAWD, do you like your conquest? ive only seen 1 in colorado and it was a pretty blue color, saw they were turbo and didnt seem likee a bad car. I was told by eric that if i bought a DSM it was joining the dark side, i simply replied, "then call me darth vader :D"

MedliAWD

11-14-2002, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Brickstylz
Haha, didnt realize that till i read your post titus, good times :) MedliAWD, do you like your conquest? ive only seen 1 in colorado and it was a pretty blue color, saw they were turbo and didnt seem likee a bad car. I was told by eric that if i bought a DSM it was joining the dark side, i simply replied, "then call me darth vader :D"

Yeah, I like it. It's old tech though. 2.6L truck engine, SOHC, 8 valves, TB injection, small turbo, etc. Came with a FMIC though and it's RWD :)

95GSRB18C

11-14-2002, 08:03 PM

well i got a flywheel from the yard paul. When are u getting your clutch?

Talonstylz

11-14-2002, 08:11 PM

hopefully ill be gettin it wednesday, and ill have it overnighted, hopefully gettin it thursday. Hows friday lookin for ya? If its open lets get this bish rollin again!

95GSRB18C

11-14-2002, 10:56 PM

Friday will most likely work. I'll have to check my schedule. :D If not...maybe over the weekend???

Pang

11-14-2002, 11:41 PM

you better off getting a brand new flywheel from napa. They have'em for 49 bucks.

95GSRB18C

11-14-2002, 11:53 PM

$49 for a Talon?? I find that hard to believe because usually DSM stuff is more expensive than honda parts are...i thought last time i checked they were like $120+.

Talonstylz

11-14-2002, 11:57 PM

Napa has em for 49? oh shibby, might get myself another flywheel then and have one lightened for use later, thanx for the info

95GSRB18C

11-15-2002, 08:28 AM

hmmm....sounds like a good idea. Buy a new one and put it on your car and take the one i got you to get it lightened. :)

Talonstylz

11-15-2002, 08:08 PM

bonus, flywheels everywhere!

DlandryTSI

11-15-2002, 08:53 PM

Lightened flywheels aren't worth it IMO.

--Dave

Talonstylz

11-15-2002, 09:23 PM

do they break or bend under high boost?

stu

11-16-2002, 01:54 AM

I thought that you didn't want a lightened flywheel with a turbo because when you shift, the revs drop faster, then you are more likely to fall out of boost. Nobody wants that. But, on the other hand, maybe you will spool up faster.

stu

11-16-2002, 01:58 AM

Jessica (thebetterhalf) just got her 99 9-3 Saab tonight. It has a heavy ass flywheel. By the way, it is black with leather and ALL the seats are heated.

I like boost. Now she just needs a bigger down pipe, and a BOV, and freer flowing exhaust, a two stage boost controller, a bigger turbo, better wastegate, a better fuel pump, a more accurate boost gauge (right now she's only boosting around orange pounds), maybe an Air/Fuel gauge, and I think she would be set. Maybe some bigger injectors and a bigger front mount too.

95GSRB18C

11-16-2002, 10:02 AM

I think it would spool faster and keep the revs higher...hmmm..i dunno tho.

MedliAWD

11-16-2002, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by B18C1TurboTeg
I think it would spool faster and keep the revs higher...hmmm..i dunno tho.

A heavy flywheel will keep you in higher rpms when you let off the gas due to inertia. But conversely it will take you longer to get there because the engine has to work harder to make it spin. Lighter flywheels let you get to high rpms faster but loose them faster because there is less inertia to keep the rotating assembly moving when you let off the gas.

That being said I love my 9lb JUN chromemoly flywheel :)

Talonstylz

11-16-2002, 11:02 PM

might have to get mine lightened to 9 lbs then :D

stu

11-17-2002, 01:59 PM

I think that you would be better off with a flywheel that was originally made to be light, rather than one that was just made lighter.

95GSRB18C

11-17-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by stu
I think that you would be better off with a flywheel that was originally made to be light, rather than one that was just made lighter.

Yea i think so too.

MedliAWD

11-17-2002, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by stu
I think that you would be better off with a flywheel that was originally made to be light, rather than one that was just made lighter.

What stu said. In fact you can't get a stock flywheel lightened to 9lbs, nor would you want to. You'll have to get either a chromemoly one (such as JUN) or an aluminum (Fidanza) one. RRE sells stock flywheels that have been lightened to 14lbs.

Talonstylz

11-17-2002, 03:09 PM

yea, i probably should, but im still gonna use the one you have bryan :)

Talonstylz

11-17-2002, 03:12 PM

the old flywheel in my volvo what 7lbs :D but thats cuz it was an auto, oh well, guess ill save for JUN or somethin. I just wanna get my car runnin for now, i cant stand bein stuck in evergreen, it just sucks :)

stu

11-17-2002, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Talonstylz
i cant stand bein stuck in evergreen, it just sucks :)

Really, is that why you say something about how shitty it is every other post? :p

Talonstylz

11-17-2002, 09:01 PM

yea :D Come get stuck up here for a few weeks and youd do the same thing, hehe

stu

11-17-2002, 09:13 PM

As long as you don't run out of lotion right?

john

11-17-2002, 09:51 PM

Launches suffer. The motor revs faster, but the launches suffer. There's a lot of energy stored in the flywheel, and when you remove weight you remove a bunch of that energy.

If I had to do it over again, I'd go with a stock part...

Originally posted by Talonstylz
do they break or bend under high boost?

Talonstylz

11-17-2002, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by john
Launches suffer. The motor revs faster, but the launches suffer. There's a lot of energy stored in the flywheel, and when you remove weight you remove a bunch of that energy.

If I had to do it over again, I'd go with a stock part...

I knew launches sufferes a little from lightened flywheels, but didnt think it would affect a turbo'd car as much, that helps my decsission, thanks :)

stu

11-17-2002, 10:11 PM

It doesn't matter what kind of motor you have. It deals strictly with the drive train. That would be like saying that you didn't think tracion bars would work on a turboed car.

95GSRB18C

11-18-2002, 12:40 AM

paul, i have no clue how much the flywheel weighs. It's stock but i think it should hold up. I'll throw it on a scale tomorrow and see how much it weighs...otherwise, you might just wanna go to napa and pick one up for $45 like pang said that way you dont have to worry about this one being to old and cracking or what not.

GimPin

11-18-2002, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by MedliAWD
Congrats on joining the dark side. Go with the ACT2600 like Paul said. I love mine :)

I would agree with this I have the same clutch and love it as well what did you end up getting??

Talonstylz

11-18-2002, 10:25 PM

Bryan, thats what im gonna end up doin, ill take the flywheel off your hands but im gonna get one from NAPA Wednesday

Talonstylz

11-20-2002, 05:37 PM

Got my flywheel sittin in my room, clutch package comes tommorow, oh happy days are a comin :D

95GSRB18C

11-21-2002, 12:03 AM

nice nice. Hope it all works out good.

deadly dsm

11-23-2002, 10:47 PM

I live up here in Bailey which is basically right around the corner from Evergreen...

I had a RRE lightened stock flywheel and then went back to a stock weight. Launches sucked and it was harder to shift with the lightened flywheel in. The rev faster thing was a moot point for me, my car feels stronger and has run better times with the stock flywheel in and launching is much more consistent as well.

I liked the lightened wheel and had no problems with it, but for drag I'd say stay stock until you need the SFI approved wheel. I've also heard that somebody is making a "heavier" than 9lb SFI approved flywheel. Don't remember who though.

If you ever need a hand working on that Talon, e-mail me. I'll help if I can. I also will do work on dsm's for way less than any shop will, I'll even let you watch and we can shoot the shit while I'm doing it. That's my new side business and I'm already starting to get busy, I worked on dsm's all day today.:gapteeth:

Talonstylz

11-24-2002, 02:07 PM

yea bailys right near me. Anyway you might be able to come by today? (sunday) The whole install in westy fell through cuz only 1 person showed up, im tryin to do it at my house right now. Im at the point where i need to take the axels out so i can drop the tranny. This is all new to me cuz its my first DSM. Any help would be appreciated greatly!

95GSRB18C

12-12-2002, 07:24 PM

I went and drove a 90 Talon TSi the other day just for shits and grins and i was looking at the turbo and it was a TDO5H and the lady said it was a stock turbo. Also when i was driving it, the needle was pushing over the stock limit which i believe the stock one goes to 14 so it must have been pushing 15 lbs. I believe that's what the stock ones push anyways. My car isnt that fast and my friend nick was in the talon and i was in my car and we raced and it launched me off the line hard but i caught up to it with ease just like my friend kents talon. Not to shit on your parade or anything but i think that that turbo is stock and is not the 18G.

V8SpankR

12-13-2002, 07:59 AM

The 18g looks like the 14b on the outside and the only way to tell it apart is to look at the turbine itself.

Also the stock boost guage is just an estimate that reads to 14psi,in actuality the stock boost is 10.5 on a 1st gen DSM. The stock boost guage isn't even hooked to the turbo in any way,it just reads the air coming in through the MAF and goes up and down with how much air is coming through. In other words it's just for looks.

95GSRB18C

12-13-2002, 10:04 AM

Well the 18G is also modified by GReddy and you would actually see the GReddy stamp on it somewhere. All he said before was that it said TDO5H on it somewhere. The one i test drove said the exact same thing and the lady told me it was a stock turbo. Im not yellin at anyone, im just sayin.

Talonstylz

12-13-2002, 11:10 AM

dont thinky its 18G eh? well, when i get everything workin up here ill give ya a run and we can find out :) Oh, and when im spankin you, tell me if my hazards work ;)

95GSRB18C

12-13-2002, 12:52 PM

If it is an 18G then you will eat me obviously, but dont you think it's kinda sad i can take out talons with the stock 14b like kent's talon?? :D

P.S. If it's a 14b and im pulling on YOU, then tell me if my hazards are ok too.

V8SpankR

12-13-2002, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by B18C1TurboTeg
If it is an 18G then you will eat me obviously, but dont you think it's kinda sad i can take out talons with the stock 14b like kent's talon?? :D

P.S. If it's a 14b and im pulling on YOU, then tell me if my hazards are ok too.

What level of mods does your buddy kent have? Stock a DSM runs 15 flat (high 15s up here,I personally ran a 15.7 stock) in factory trim but with just an exhaust,intake and 5 more psi of boost I was in the low 14s at Bandi and several others have taken the 14b into the 13s with a few more psi.

Do you have any slips on your Teg yet?

I hit my 13.3 with 17psi on my 18g and with 20+ I should easily be in the 12s. Man,I can't wait til April and race season.'burnout:

Talonstylz

12-13-2002, 01:09 PM

hehe, if you pull on me, ill gladly tell you if they work :D

95GSRB18C

12-13-2002, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by V8SpankR
What level of mods does your buddy kent have? Stock a DSM runs 15 flat (high 15s up here,I personally ran a 15.7 stock) in factory trim but with just an exhaust,intake and 5 more psi of boost I was in the low 14s at Bandi and several others have taken the 14b into the 13s with a few more psi.

Do you have any slips on your Teg yet?

I hit my 13.3 with 17psi on my 18g and with 20+ I should easily be in the 12s. Man,I can't wait til April and race season.'burnout:

My friend Kents talon has intake and exhaust. He ran a 16.8 at Bandimere. i dont know if that means there is something wrong with his car or.....he just doesnt know how to drive. He has the advantage over me though. He has AWD and i have FWD. He eats me off the line and i just catch up and fly right by him by the time im at my 3rd gear. We have it all on tape and i've raced him over 20 times and the outcome is still the same. He is also pushing 14psi on the stock turbo. But still the fact that he has turbo and i dont is kinda strange how i beat him so bad.
Yea i do have slips on my car and it's a 15.6@89. I also cant wait till bandi opens again. I hope for boost by then.

Talonstylz

12-13-2002, 08:12 PM

if he's runnin a 16.8, theres probably someething wrong with his car. Like paul said, stock talons up here run 15.5's or around that. I dunno, might be a combo of not knowin how to drive, or something wrong, but a 16.8 doesnt sound right, oh well, we'll find out next week :D ;)

V8SpankR

12-13-2002, 08:17 PM

My friend ran a 15.4 on his '92 Eclipse with just a filter and the boost selonoid restrictor sleeve removed to allow about 2 more psi (to about 13 psi) to be generated by the turbo.

95GSRB18C

12-13-2002, 10:45 PM

hmm....dont know what to say but his runs a 16.8. It cant be that hard to drive a AWD car, especially with a new clutch.

Pang

12-15-2002, 01:02 PM

bryan paul's turbo is the stock 14b ! not 18g

Pang

12-15-2002, 01:04 PM

bryan your teg is quiker than others. can't figure why but if the stock awd turbo talon can't beat you its probally cuz they don't know how to drive.

95GSRB18C

12-15-2002, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by TurboSi
bryan paul's turbo is the stock 14b ! not 18g

Ahh see i knew i was right!! :D I only remember that because i looked under the hood of one i drove and it said TD05H and i knew that one was stock and when i drove it, it was pushing past the 14 mark so maybe like 15 lbs.

P.S. and about the driving part....i even had someone else get in kents car to race me and it was the same outcome.

Laterz,
Bryan

V8SpankR

12-15-2002, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by B18C1TurboTeg
Ahh see i knew i was right!! :D I only remember that because i looked under the hood of one i drove and it said TD05H and i knew that one was stock and when i drove it, it was pushing past the 14 mark so maybe like 15 lbs.

P.S. and about the driving part....i even had someone
else get in kents car to race me and it was the same outcome.
Laterz,
Bryan

Remember if you were using the stock boost guage a sa reference then it's very inaccurate and 14+lbs reading on a stock car is only 10.5psi. I think your friend's car has issues with the 1/4 mile he's running,most people with stock 1st gens at least run 16 flats.

95GSRB18C

12-16-2002, 09:12 AM

well if your saying they should run at lest 16.0 or what not then i should be able to beat it. My 1/4 time was a 15.6. My friend Kents talon isnt the only one ive raced. I raced a kid i went to high school with. He launched me off the line and i just caught up with ease. Like Pang (TurboSi) said, my car is faster than other GSR's and we dont know why. The engine is stock except for intake/exhaust.