Dog house training

[xxxd-manxxx]

I have searched the net already but i was looking to see if someone on here has done something that works really well with getting your dog to not piss or poop in the house! She is a 7month old pit bull! I just got her fixed on monday! But lately she just dumps a piss load of PISS on the wood floor constantly through the day and she doesnt let me know she needs to go or anything! i bought some of those doggy pads but she doesnt use them! i am just looking for some help in getting my dog house trained cause i really dont want to get rid of her!

Thanks in advance!!

[Brandon]

Take her out more often. If you're gone during the day then kennel train her, she won't pee where she sleeps.

[xxxd-manxxx]

if im gone from 6 am to about 2 or 3pm will that be okay?

[Brandon]

I don't leave my dogs alone for more than 6 hours straight. If I'm gonna be gone more than that, I take them to daycare. If I had a yard, I would leave them outside but more than 6 hours is too much to be inside. Unfortunately, I live in an apt for the time being.

[xxxd-manxxx]

ya i live in an apartment too!! How much do day cares run?

[Brandon]

~$20/day give or take.

We used to take ours to Big Backyard but that place sucks so we take them to daily wag now. http://www.dailywag.com/

[M@]

Keep in mind he has a pitbull, do they allow pits?

[Brandon]

oh, ha. I doubt it. Call and find out.

I assume your apt mgmt doesn't know you have a pit.....?

[BlueFang08]

Yeah I am going though kennel tranning my shiba right now, she wine's like crazy but then she calms down after 10 min or so. But they are right you don't wanna leave them home for more than 6 hrs at a time. I go home at lunch to let her our then go back to work.

[303Mike]

If your wanting to get a dog trained well, and socialized it takes time. (a lot) Just a thought but if you dont have the time but really want a well trained dog you can try prison training.

It is a correctional facility training program. It costs a bit of loot but the dogs are on point when they are finished. My new puppy is in training as we speak. She will be done in about 5wks. Not to say you can't put in the time, but if your anything like me I love an obedient, fun, well trained puppy. They will crate train them and help them to learn basic commands. (incuding potty training) Feel free to call or PM me if you have questions. Good luck man. Pits are smart as hell and capable of being your best friend. Just takes time and work.

[xxxd-manxxx]

they know she is a pit and they are the only place i have found that allows any dog!

[xxxd-manxxx]

and i work downtown so i cant come to my place on lunch its to far away!

[xxxd-manxxx]

~$20/day give or take.

We used to take ours to Big Backyard but that place sucks so we take them to daily wag now. http://www.dailywag.com/


ha ha just called and they are closing their zuni location
And they dont even take PITS

[chrisbarnett01]

Most dogs won't eliminate where they sleep. The only ones that do were generally forced to as puppies in pet shops and puppy farms. Does the dog sleep in the dog house?

Any dog that is crated or kenneled during the day needs to sleep in the same, so they understand not to soil it.

It might help to put down a puppy pad in one corner

[xxxd-manxxx]

i have a kennel for her and sometimes she will just go in it and lay there! but the thing is that i am not home from about 6am to 3pm and i just bought puppy pads but so far she hasnt used it she went right next to it though! Maybe she just has bad aim!

[303Mike]

The dog wont know to pee on them unless you teach them too. Also she will never let you know she needs to PISS or SHIT unless you teach her. Until she knows that pissing in the house is a bad thing she's gonna do what ever she feels is the easiest thing for her. Kennel training means that when you leave she goes in there and YOU close the door. That said she will have to be let out before you put her in there and have to hold it until you come back and let her out

[M@]

To this day I feel bad for striking my old black lab when she would mess up (only for really bad things like chewing up stuff, and it would just be a couple quick smacks on the butt). But I'll tell you this, it whipped her into shape real quick. She is one of the best obeying dogs I ever had. I still feel bad for it, though. I'll never train a dog like that again. There are much less hurtful ways to the animal to teach them.

:( I wish my ex never took her from me.

[chrisbarnett01]

I don't leave my dogs alone for more than 6 hours straight. If I'm gonna be gone more than that, I take them to daycare. If I had a yard, I would leave them outside but more than 6 hours is too much to be inside. Unfortunately, I live in an apt for the time being.

My 3 are crated 4-5 days a week, but only 2-3 days for more than 6 hours. I work full time m-f, with the same shift, but Jordan manages a starbucks, so she can rotate her schedule, plus she has one weekday off. Maybe once every 2 weeks they are crated for 9 hours.

As puppies though you can't do that. My puppies were penned in a room with the crate on one side, and puppy pads on the otherside for the first 5 months or so of their lives, until they were old enough to hold it for 8-9 hours.

We also adjusted our schedules with the puppies so they wouldn't be penned more than 3-4 hours.

I wish I had the $$, I'd put all 3 in doggy daycare every day.

[xxxd-manxxx]

ya i think she would do ok for like 6-7 hours in a kennel!! i just dont know how to teach her to let me know when she needs to go! and what is another way to teach her that its bad to do it in the house besides hitting her and yelling. cause she gets all sad and i feel bad but she turns around and does it again! damn stubborn pit! :)

[monicle]

when the dog pisses or craps in the house you need to shove their nose in it and give then a good smack or two. im not talking about a love tap, it has got to leave a sting to make the point.
as long as you are consistent with the punishment the dog will eventually come to you when they need to go out.
also you cant make excuses for the dog. it doesnt matter if you are gone for 1 hour or 6 hours. if you come back and they have doen their business they get smacked.
my parents always rationalise that its ok if they did it when they were in the house alone for a while. thats a bunch of crap. the dog needs to know its never ok.

[xxxd-manxxx]

i've heard doing this when they shit or something but are you actually supposed to put their nose in the shit or piss?

[303Mike]

Do some research in regards to Pit training. They do not react well to hitting and yelling. You need to be firm but not physical. They are not bad dogs but become bad with aggressive teachings. You need to become the pack leader with her or she will try to lead you and that will make you want to get physical or get rid of her. Pits are leaders, but if they know whos boss she will be awsome.

[monicle]

yes. rub their nose in the piss and push their nose into the shit.

[monicle]

also those dog mats dont teach the dog to go on the mat. it teaches them that a sertain location in the house is ok. they will do their business wether you have laid a mat down there or not.

[xxxd-manxxx]

ya she is a smart dog and she does know when she is in trouble and she knows not to fuck around with me. if we are playing and i start getting rough with her and she starts getting out of control like using her mouth too much on my arm or something i will grab her and pin her on the ground and right after that she stops cause she knows she did wrong!! its just really hard to train her cause she is insanely hyper and active

[meat-market]

rub their nose in it, and use a rolled up news paper.. ALWAYS use a rolled up news paper to strike a pit.. once they see it out, they know they have done wrong.. (trust me i had to house train two female pits) Take the dog right outside and yell "this is where we go potty...OUTSIDE" then take the dog back in and kennel it. (most dogs, esp pits, wont shit where they stay, hell if my pit had to go when kenneled the lil bitch would put her ass up to the side of the kennel and shit out of it)

And don't be a twat about striking a pit, they don't feel it, and are more upset about disobeying the owner, than actually getting hit.. (pits have a very HIGH pain threshold).. But never, ever, ever, ever use your hands to strike, or they will develop a "hand tick" and get nervous every time someone raises a hand around them..
ALWAYS use a rolled up newspaper.. ( i wrapped mine in duct tape, still doesn't faze those hard headed sons of bitches)

[xxxd-manxxx]

if she went on the pee/poop pad when i am gone i would be ok with it! i really cant get too mad the whole house is hard wood so its always easy to clean and never leaves any stains

[xxxd-manxxx]

rub their nose in it, and use a rolled up news paper.. ALWAYS use a rolled up news paper to strike a pit.. once they see it out, they know they have done wrong.. (trust me i had to house train two female pits) Take the dog right outside and yell "this is where we go potty...OUTSIDE" then take the dog back in and kennel it. (most dogs, esp pits, wont shit where they stay, hell if my pit had to go when kenneled the lil bitch would put her ass up to the side of the kennel and shit out of it)

And don't be a twat about striking a pit, they don't feel it, and are more upset about disobeying the owner, than actually getting hit.. (pits have a very HIGH pain threshold).. But never, ever, ever, ever use your hands to strike, or they will develop a "hand tick" and get nervous every time someone raises a hand around them..
ALWAYS use a rolled up newspaper.. ( i wrapped mine in duct tape, still doesn't faze those hard headed sons of bitches)


ha ha i am waiting for the day my pit shits out the side ha ha ha ha!! she just doesnt seem to get the point when i say no! she always back talks when i tell her know (she barks and growls) when i roll up a paper she thinks its a toy and runs around when i try and smack her ass!!

[monicle]

if she went on the pee/poop pad when i am gone i would be ok with it! i really cant get too mad the whole house is hard wood so its always easy to clean and never leaves any stains

...also you cant make excuses for the dog....

you need to decide if you are going to train them to go outside or to go on the mat. you cant mix them it will not work trust me. one or the other only.

[xxxd-manxxx]

ya i see and understand!!

[Brandon]

yes. rub their nose in the piss and push their nose into the shit.


Agreed to disagree. I don't think that's necessary. I've never done it and my dogs don't pee inside. As a puppy, I would just take them outside often and tell them to go potty. When they did, they got treats and praising. If they peed inside then I immediately took them out. I think praising and treats do a whole lot more than getting smothered in shit.

I do however have a taped up roll of paper to swat them with. I'm convinced one of my dogs is retarded, seriously mentally ill, and getting swatted doesn't phase him

[meat-market]

Agreed to disagree. I don't think that's necessary. I've never done it and my dogs don't pee inside. As a puppy, I would just take them outside often and tell them to go potty. When they did, they got treats and praising. If they peed inside then I immediately took them out. I think praising and treats do a whole lot more than getting smothered in shit.

I do however have a taped up roll of paper to swat them with. I'm convinced one of my dogs is retarded, seriously mentally ill, and getting swatted doesn't phase him

yeah my one pit/boxer mix would look at me after i swatted her and scolded her.. and look at me like "what is that all ya got"

[Kwando]

only rub their nose in it when you catch them in the act.

also take the dog out every hour and wait until he either pisses or shits. Then after some time take them out every two hours, and extend it out further.

it take time, my 1 year old doxie still has accidents. And what sucks is he has excitement urination, so when soemone comes over sometime he leaks. bwahahah

[Brandon]

it take time, my 1 year old doxie still has accidents. And what sucks is he has excitement urination, so when soemone comes over sometime he leaks. bwahahah


that sucks. Don't give him attention till he settles down.

[Kwando]

my wife and i don't... its only a problem when we have company.

[chrisbarnett01]

when the dog pisses or craps in the house you need to shove their nose in it and give then a good smack or two. im not talking about a love tap, it has got to leave a sting to make the point.

Worst idea ever. Seriously, shut up.

If you punish a dog for peeing or pooping that way, they will not understand. They will think you are punishing them for actually going to the bathroom. They will never correlate that you are punishing them for the location of where they are going.

The dog will see shame in going to the bathroom, and they will try to hide it from you.

Instead, catch the dog IN THE ACT when it is going in the house. Loudly say "outside" or whatever the command is for going outside. Then, carry the dog outside. When the dog goes outside, give it lots of praise.

[M@]

Worst idea ever. Seriously, shut up.

If you punish a dog for peeing or pooping that way, they will not understand. They will think you are punishing them for actually going to the bathroom. They will never correlate that you are punishing them for the location of where they are going.

The dog will see shame in going to the bathroom, and they will try to hide it from you.

Instead, catch the dog IN THE ACT when it is going in the house. Loudly say "outside" or whatever the command is for going outside. Then, carry the dog outside. When the dog goes outside, give it lots of praise.

I concur. Best way to pottytrain a dog IMO.

[chrisbarnett01]

also those dog mats dont teach the dog to go on the mat. it teaches them that a sertain location in the house is ok. they will do their business wether you have laid a mat down there or not.



No, the puppy pads actually separate their living/sleeping/eating area from the potty area, while simultaneously keeping your floor clean.

It doesn't teach them that it is ok to go inside as long as you associate the proper command with is, and praise the dog when it has done what it is supposed to do.

Please, STFU, it is clear you have zero clue what you are talking about.

[monicle]

No, the puppy pads actually separate their living/sleeping/eating area from the potty area, while simultaneously keeping your floor clean.

It doesn't teach them that it is ok to go inside as long as you associate the proper command with is, and praise the dog when it has done what it is supposed to do.

Please, STFU, it is clear you have zero clue what you are talking about.

damn, didnt know i was dealing with the dog training mutha fukkin mastah! you must be pro.
I guess my dog not having shit in the house for atleast a good 4 years doesnt support this method. Ill keep training any future dogs i own with this method because it does work.

[ntgtyper]

for our puppy bloodhound we hung a bell at the back door and everytime we let her out we would ring it then she finally got on to doing it her self so anytime she needs to go out she rings the bell but as afr as getting her trained every time before she went to sleep, everytime she woke up, after eating, and after playing she is four months old now and no mistakes its just funny as hell to hear the bell ring

[Brandon]

I've heard of doing the bell thing too. Seems like a good idea to me. One of my dogs bumps the door knob with his nose when he needs to go out.

[xxxd-manxxx]

i would love to train my dog to ring a bell bwahahahaha

[hoSTIle]

when the dog pisses or craps in the house you need to shove their nose in it and give then a good smack or two. im not talking about a love tap, it has got to leave a sting to make the point.
as long as you are consistent with the punishment the dog will eventually come to you when they need to go out.
also you cant make excuses for the dog. it doesnt matter if you are gone for 1 hour or 6 hours. if you come back and they have doen their business they get smacked.
my parents always rationalise that its ok if they did it when they were in the house alone for a while. thats a bunch of crap. the dog needs to know its never ok.

RIDICULOUS! I do not agree to disagree. I just disagree completely. But I am not surprised that people continue to think this is a good way to train. "Training" a dog this way only teaches them fear and doesn't actually teach them what they are doing wrong.

What bothers me the most is that you decided to buy a puppy before knowing the first thing about basic puppy training. Go buy a book! Thats all I did before we got ours, was read everything about the breed, training, etc.

Take the dog outside as often as possible. When she starts sniffing around, she's looking for a place to pee. Its not that hard, it gets frustrating and tiring but you have to do it if you want a well behaved dog. Unless you'd rather clean up piss for the rest of her life. Or just give up on her because of your incapabilities.

[monicle]

Well disagree all you want, the method works. Im not saying your way doesnt but i dont think teaching a little bit of fear is such a bad thing.

I know the entire population is taking a huge swing into the no punishment side of things. You can see it every where. Its good to praise when something is done right but youve also got to punish when something is done wrong.

[john]

We trained both of our dogs to ring a bell at the back door when they want to go outside. It took a week, maybe 2, to get them doing the right thing.

Take them outside.
Wait for them to do their job.
Bestow praise and a treat upon them.
Repeat.

[chrisbarnett01]

Well disagree all you want, the method works. Im not saying your way doesnt but i dont think teaching a little bit of fear is such a bad thing.

I know the entire population is taking a huge swing into the no punishment side of things. You can see it every where. Its good to praise when something is done right but youve also got to punish when something is done wrong.


You're not training your dog; you're only shaming it into hiding it's eliminations from you. It knows it has to go, but you're teaching the dog that it is not ok to go in front of you.

If you have a small apartment, that will probably work for keeping the dog from peeing on the carpet. If you have a house or a large apartment? It won't.


Punishment is used in training as well, but only for teaching dogs what they are not supposed to do. The dog is supposed to go to the bathroom, just not in the house. Punishment won't teach location, it will only teach yes or no regarding the act itself.

[ntgtyper]

Well disagree all you want, the method works. Im not saying your way doesnt but i dont think teaching a little bit of fear is such a bad thing.

I know the entire population is taking a huge swing into the no punishment side of things. You can see it every where. Its good to praise when something is done right but youve also got to punish when something is done wrong.

so when you have kids and you are teaching them to used the toilet and they make a mistake are you going to beat them too?????

[monicle]

You're not training your dog; you're only shaming it into hiding it's eliminations from you. It knows it has to go, but you're teaching the dog that it is not ok to go in front of you.
...right because you suppose i punish the dog even when it goes outside right? i take the dog out all the time and goes to the bathroom fine in front of me. but when he still used to go in the house he would get punished.

so when you have kids and you are teaching them to used the toilet and they make a mistake are you going to beat them too?????
I do have a kid and no im not afraid to give her a smack if shes doing something shes not supposed to be doing. you obviously dont recognise a difference between a beating and a corrective action. one does not equal the other.

[chrisbarnett01]

You = fail

[ntgtyper]

I do have a kid and no im not afraid to give her a smack if shes doing something shes not supposed to be doing. you obviously dont recognise a difference between a beating and a corrective action. one does not equal the other.

couldn't see that one coming (sarcasm)

[monicle]

its people like the both of you that are responsible for the lack of scoring in childrens sports these days. remove all possible sources of pain, embarassment, and failure from the world of kids while they are growing up.
only to unleash them on a world that will hurt, embarass, and put a spotlight on their failures.

[chrisbarnett01]

its people like the both of you that are responsible for the lack of scoring in childrens sports these days. remove all possible sources of pain, embarassment, and failure from the world of kids while they are growing up.
only to unleash them on a world that will hurt, embarass, and put a spotlight on their failures.

great comeback. please see my previous post

[M@]

Calm down, kids. Damn, lol.

[xxxd-manxxx]

can someone close this?

[chrisbarnett01]

can someone close this?

Why? It really hasn't gotten to that point. It's still a productive thread, despite a couple posts.

[xxxd-manxxx]

well you guys are just arguing back and fourth and i already know what i am going to do with her! but never mind

Carry on!