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Nightfall
12-31-2007, 08:27 PM
So I have been two weeks completely sober of opioids. My roommate and I are sitting in the living room and I make a comment about wanting a Percoset, bowl, anything. I have found that for one reason or another I just don't like being sober. We discuss this for a while and his final question is basically "Why?". I couldn't answer it.

So I turn to HAI. ;)

Why do you think people like to live high? This is not to count out Alcohol, Caffeine, Cigarettes, anything that alters your "mind" so that you are no longer sober.

This is not a thread about promoting/demoting use of drugs propaganda, only about the question, so please try and keep it on topic.

Jerkmode9316
12-31-2007, 08:30 PM
Tough Question. I will have to think about it when I'm sober.

Ted
12-31-2007, 08:31 PM
<<<To stoned to think about that now.

Nightfall
12-31-2007, 08:31 PM
:rofl:

ryanman
12-31-2007, 08:35 PM
:werd:

I'm too high right now, and drunk... Fuckin pills, lol!!!


Actually, i'm not that high at the moment and I don't know the answer to your question, it's just an urge to do it cuz you know how good it's gonna feel while you're high. I haven't popped a pill in over 4 months but I just went and got 3 perc 7.5's from a buddy and it's gonna be a good night, prolly smoke a bowl to top it off and drink some Hypnotiq and probably some beer.

Ted
12-31-2007, 08:37 PM
I'm not sure what the urge for the Never ending High, prolly the same Fix you get from Cig's, I don't smoke Cigs though, I do drink but would never wanna be a constant drunk, maybe the weeds a Medium, Hell who knows,

Nightfall
12-31-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm not sure what the urge for the Never ending High, prolly the same Fix you get from Cig's, I don't smoke Cigs though, I do drink but would never wanna be a constant drunk, maybe the weeds a Medium, Hell who knows,

Holy run on sentence ending in a comma.

Try again tomorrow. ;)

So I'm walking away with "I'm not sure" Seems to be every bodies answer that is posed this question that are on the "Get high" side.

Let's hear from the "Don't get high" side.

asianjkim
12-31-2007, 08:47 PM
Maybe its because they like the feeling. Makes them laid back and not worry about things.

Nightfall
12-31-2007, 09:15 PM
Doing a bit of reading; Depression may be an answer for a lot of people whether they realize it or not. Of course the answer (both underlying and what the person expresses) is going to vary from person to person.

stu
12-31-2007, 11:14 PM
Maybe it's a replacement for natural endorphins. After I go running for a long time I feel really great.

I think it could have something to do with the social stigma of the act itself.

Take drinking as an example. Sometimes I feel like going out and drinking with my friends. I honestly don't really care about the drinks themselves, but I do like the time spent with my friends. Drinking is just what you do, because it'd be weird to go out drinking and not actually drink. So maybe it's a combination of the act of sitting around, having a light hearted conversation, shooting the shit with your buds and the actual, physical act of smoking.

Jerkmode9316
12-31-2007, 11:15 PM
But seriously I think everyone has addictions. These addictions can be by means of substance abuse of some kind or even something such as exercise. It could even be Good deeds. Just habit maybe. Addiction to non-soberness. Kinda like how N/A participants are exrtremly addicted to coffee and cigarettes. Just habit

BenLT
12-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Because it makes you feel good, why else.
Thread over.

NokBlue
01-01-2008, 12:09 AM
i honestly couldn't tell you, as i don't drink (at all) or have i ever been high. i know, hard to believe.:)

some people i know say they do it out of boredom and/or depression.

Kickass_d16z6
01-01-2008, 12:28 PM
addiction

edit - and dirty jobs marathons

M@
01-01-2008, 12:58 PM
Why do people get low?

john
01-01-2008, 01:21 PM
1) escape
2) euphoria
3) stupidity/peer pressure

yapann
01-01-2008, 01:48 PM
Maybe it's a replacement for natural endorphins
with a 'tiny' difference that natural endorphins come with some dose of an effort.
<Darwin’s warning>


I honestly don't really care about the drinks themselves, but I do like the time spent with my friends. Drinking is just what you do, because it'd be weird to go out drinking and not actually drink. So maybe it's a combination of the act of sitting around, having a light hearted conversation,
I thank myself for having taken a chance once to find out how the people acting like without a prompter when hadn’t their drink may have not really much in common.

slowfocusguy
01-01-2008, 05:21 PM
social conformity.

I've seen a 23 year old guy, who had never smoked in his life, light one up and started smoking once he found out that he was one of the few who didnt smoke out of the crowd. If everybody you know is high....why wouldnt you want to be high?

Jerkmode9316
01-01-2008, 05:22 PM
If everybody you know is high....why wouldnt you want to be high?

Because fitting in is just cliche

Minotaur
01-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Out of the OP list, my favorite is caffiene. If used sparingly, it's a wonderful mental stimulant that helps me out of engineering induced trances.

dopeem1
01-01-2008, 08:00 PM
i somke weed everyday.. i have been stoned for so long its just gay in the real world.. ya know.. im so used to it its like part of my morning routien. i function normally on it and it just makes me feel good....

thats is why i get high... but if you dont more power to ya...

Skaterkid
01-01-2008, 08:13 PM
I've never found a reason to get shit faced or stoned with any drug beyond caffiene. I only use caffiene because Mountain Dew is tasty and when I was in school I was often running on less than 5 hours sleep. The only high I enjoy is endorphins from running/lifting and adrenaline from racing/boarding/playing sports. Being drunk really isn't enjoyable to me, so I just don't do it. I had painkillers when I broke my wrist 5 years ago but I only used them the first night to get to sleep because I hated how they made me feel. So I just took Advil for pain and tossed the Vic's.

dopeem1
01-01-2008, 08:24 PM
well thats my poit if you dont more power to ya but.. i love to get high

chang
01-01-2008, 08:40 PM
the only thing i can really think of is that people enjoy the feeling. when your sober you usually think things over before you do something. when your drunk or high you just do it.

stu
01-01-2008, 08:45 PM
i somke weed everyday.. i have been stoned for so long its just gay in the real world.. ya know.. im so used to it its like part of my morning routien. i function normally on it and it just makes me feel good....

thats is why i get high... but if you dont more power to ya...

Wow, that's pathetic.

Jerkmode9316
01-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Being sober is for stiffs anyways. j/k because thats a pretty ignorant thing to say.
:gapteeth:
:Peace:

ryanman
01-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Man, I feel like shit today, now I remember why I quit taking them fucking pills. Pill hangovers suck!!

Jerkmode9316
01-01-2008, 09:08 PM
Any hangover sucks if you ask me.

Nightfall
01-01-2008, 09:16 PM
I'm really seeing a difference in posts between people that get high and those that don't. What a coincidence. :rofl:

Wait.... I'm one of them.

Jerkmode9316
01-01-2008, 09:28 PM
I'm really seeing a difference in posts between people that get high and those that don't. What a coincidence. :rofl:

Well what the fuck would straight edges know about getting high anyways. :)
Of course they will bash it. Its just not their cup of tea. They can turn their noses all they want.
In the end it just a way to let loose. So to speak.

Nightfall
01-01-2008, 09:34 PM
I don't think you understand what I am saying. I'm talking about punctuation, word choice, and general grammar.

Gets high

i somke weed everyday.. i have been stoned for so long its just gay in the real world.. ya know.. im so used to it its like part of my morning routien. i function normally on it and it just makes me feel good....

Gets high

In the end it just a way to let loose.

Doesn't get high

I've never found a reason to get shit faced or stoned with any drug beyond caffiene. I only use caffiene because Mountain Dew is tasty and when I was in school I was often running on less than 5 hours sleep. The only high I enjoy is endorphins from running/lifting and adrenaline from racing/boarding/playing sports. Being drunk really isn't enjoyable to me, so I just don't do it. I had painkillers when I broke my wrist 5 years ago but I only used them the first night to get to sleep because I hated how they made me feel. So I just took Advil for pain and tossed the Vic's.

Jerkmode9316
01-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Hmm I guess I see now.
Just a simple typo though I think. I dont often re-read my posts until after I actually post them, if at all. Maybe im just making excuses. Interesting observation though.

ryanman
01-01-2008, 10:35 PM
:rofl: :rofl:

forum
01-02-2008, 03:26 AM
social conformity.

I've seen a 23 year old guy, who had never smoked in his life, light one up and started smoking once he found out that he was one of the few who didnt smoke out of the crowd. If everybody you know is high....why wouldnt you want to be high?


If everyone you know is high, maybe its time to get some new friends.

Jerkmode9316
01-02-2008, 08:21 AM
This is not a thread about promoting/demoting use of drugs propaganda, only about the question, so please try and keep it on topic.
.....

Kickass_d16z6
01-02-2008, 08:35 AM
Ok, I'll admit it, I only smoke because of online forum peer pressure...I think I have a problem :(

slowfocusguy
01-02-2008, 08:50 AM
If everyone you know is high, maybe its time to get some new friends.

It was an example, and truthfully I dont have any friends ATM.

dopeem1
01-02-2008, 02:54 PM
Ok, I'll admit it, I only smoke because of online forum peer pressure...I think I have a problem :(
:werd:

Kickass_d16z6
01-15-2008, 08:30 PM
if pot should be legalized because it's 'better' for you than alcohol and cigarettes, shouldn't acid, mushrooms, DMT, MDMA, ect all be legalized too? I mean, alcohol kills brain cells, cigarettes will give you cancer, create addiction and cause birth defects...they kill you. Hallucinogenics in contrast are an angel.

So why does this argument always stop at marijuana? Is physical impact really the only factor to consider? Shouldn't effect play a role in the argument too? Datura is legal - so should we all start setting the standard at alkaloid poisoning?

Just something I've been thinking about lately, I know this is an old thread, but I figure people are getting tired of all the drug threads - so I bumped this one.

meat-market
01-16-2008, 12:20 PM
if pot should be legalized because it's 'better' for you than alcohol and cigarettes, shouldn't acid, mushrooms, DMT, MDMA, ect all be legalized too? I mean, alcohol kills brain cells, cigarettes will give you cancer, create addiction and cause birth defects...they kill you. Hallucinogenics in contrast are an angel.

So why does this argument always stop at marijuana? Is physical impact really the only factor to consider? Shouldn't effect play a role in the argument too? Datura is legal - so should we all start setting the standard at alkaloid poisoning?

Just something I've been thinking about lately, I know this is an old thread, but I figure people are getting tired of all the drug threads - so I bumped this one.

LEGALIZED PUBLIC MASTURBATION!!!

JAKE
01-16-2008, 12:46 PM
I was surprised when the last local elections passed and marijuana wasnt legalized. But then I thought about it and it made sense...

Youd have to get the potheads to remember to vote in order to get it legalized!

Plus, most potheads I know have SEVERE motivational issues...to the point that everything is "too much work"

Jerkmode9316
01-16-2008, 01:05 PM
Plus, most potheads I know have SEVERE motivational issues...to the point that everything is "too much work"
I think that may be because the sucessful motivated ones never tell you that they actually smoke. They tend to be a bit more discreet.

vince
01-16-2008, 01:58 PM
i think we're over looking the obvious. People get high because its cool. Duh

Kickass_d16z6
01-16-2008, 02:24 PM
A lot of it has to do with the different pot strains. Indica makes you sit on the couch and watch science channel all day, Sativa will do almost the opposite. Sativa is kinda hard to get a hold of though, especially this time of year.

dopeem1
01-16-2008, 06:32 PM
A lot of it has to do with the different pot strains. Indica makes you sit on the couch and watch science channel all day, Sativa will do almost the opposite. Sativa is kinda hard to get a hold of though, especially this time of year.
see now someone know his shit.. i have "connections" to unlimetid amounts of sativa, and im totally functional. i hate sitting on my couch.. i almost HAVE to get up and go clean at least.

Jerkmode9316
01-16-2008, 07:42 PM
I thought Indica and Sativa were common knowledge?

JAKE
01-17-2008, 12:52 PM
I don't think you understand what I am saying. I'm talking about punctuation, word choice, and general grammar.

....So are you saying that potheads are unable to properly structure a sentance? Thats kind of like saying white men cant jump... IMO, sentance structure and grammar is simply matter of preference or style. I find it a little hard to believe that a persons sentance structure changes with or without Bud. Gimme a break, ever heard of ebonics?! Haha

Back when I was indulging, I highly enjoyed sparking a blunt, and cleaning. I like to think that it had more to do with me being somewhat of a neatfreak though...of course, once I was done cleaning, it was couch potato/video game time!! (followed by a bit more bud :))

And Kickass does have a point. The strain of the canibus determines the type of high. And the more common is definately the Indica, hence the motivational issues. ....someones been reading up, eh??

Nightfall
01-17-2008, 01:03 PM
....So are you saying that potheads are unable to properly structure a sentance? Thats kind of like saying white men cant jump... IMO, sentance structure and grammar is simply matter of preference or style. I find it a little hard to believe that a persons sentance structure changes with or without Bud. Gimme a break, ever heard of ebonics?! Haha

I didn't say it was because of, I was just noticing a pattern. I smoke and my grammar is fine.

JAKE
01-17-2008, 01:08 PM
....ok good. Me too! haha

Kickass_d16z6
01-17-2008, 01:17 PM
....someones been reading up, eh??
erowid FTW ;)

JAKE
01-17-2008, 03:22 PM
WRD SON!

Ted
01-17-2008, 03:40 PM
4:20 approaching;-) lol

Jerkmode9316
01-17-2008, 03:45 PM
4:20 approaching;-) lol

YES:) Yes it is! good news is that im off for the day.

Ted
01-17-2008, 03:50 PM
Me too! Cheers to That.

Jerkmode9316
01-17-2008, 04:08 PM
Fucking A!

JAKE
01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Double, :cheers: to that....

Jerkmode9316
01-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Well its almost 420 somewhere....

talice
01-18-2008, 02:23 PM
Hmm, truthfully, and I know I'm gonna get nagged on for this, but, I think that Miss Mary Jane is addictive. I know people and scientists and shit say its not, but think about it... there are some people out there that can NOT go a week, if that, clean. Then theres some out there that just like the feeling, smell of it, whatever, they just like it. And yes, I do beleive that its a gateway drug, because some think, oh hey.. if this makes me feel this way, then what will that make me feel like?

I grew up with a hard core drug addict mother, and from seeing what drugs have done to her, I will never ever do anything like that again. And yes, I have smoked, a few times. I did it once, was blazed for quite a while, I liked it at first, but after a while, I didn't wanna feel like that anymore, I just wanted to be in my normal state of mind. Second time, I still didnt like it. Third time, I thought, ok, just one more try, everyone else likes it, why wouldnt I? So I took a few hits, and still didnt like it.

And personally, I beleive that if anyone does such things, around their children, or even in the house if children are present, are pathetic, that they can not take that drug away for such a period of time to spend time with their kids.

Not accusing anyone, or directed at anyone personally.

Dave_L
01-18-2008, 02:30 PM
Now that I haven't smoked in a while, I like not being high so much. My mind feels alot sharper and I'm def more motivated to get things done and get the things i want in life. Granted, I'll still smoke every once in a while. I'll probably smoke on 4/20 and a few other days but other than that, I really like being sober. However, I do like my beer still but that's a whole different topic. ;)

Jerkmode9316
01-18-2008, 02:32 PM
Well it is addictive to an extent. Its not AS addictive as lets say alcohol or ciggarettes, or even worse drugs(meth, coke, heroin, etc). You dont really have a "Come down" nor do you actually get sick from not having it. I think you actually get addicted to being high. The actual feeling of relaxation(or whatever) is what keeps us smokers smoking. Although If there was a reason, I could easily quit for a week and have before. Of course I didnt just quit because I wanted to see if I could, but it was still no problem at all. Honeslty I didn't even get the jones to smoke. <--Granted i was drinking a hell of a lot more though :cheers:

talice
01-18-2008, 02:40 PM
Well put, but do you possibly think that the extensive drinking could be in some odd form of withdrawal from it? Not just from your experience, but I know a few people that have done the same thing, they had to stop smoking, but in return was drinking a lot more.


Well it is addictive to an extent. Its not AS addictive as lets say alcohol or ciggarettes, or even worse drugs(meth, coke, heroin, etc). You dont really have a "Come down" nor do you actually get sick from not having it. I think you actually get addicted to being high. The actual feeling of relaxation(or whatever) is what keeps us smokers smoking. Although If there was a reason, I could easily quit for a week and have before. Of course I didnt just quit because I wanted to see if I could, but it was still no problem at all. Honeslty I didn't even get the jones to smoke. <--Granted i was drinking a hell of a lot more though :cheers:

Jerkmode9316
01-18-2008, 02:46 PM
Well put, but do you possibly think that the extensive drinking could be in some odd form of withdrawal from it? Not just from your experience, but I know a few people that have done the same thing, they had to stop smoking, but in return was drinking a lot more.
Not really a withdrawl. Just an alternative High, if you will. If I Cant get my head tipsy off the herba matte, then alcohol is the next best thing. Although I dont like alchol as much because I get really smashed sometimes and regret it the next day. Were talking kicked out of the club and stumbling drunk. Where as herba matte, I just kind of get tired or lazy(or broke!) if I over do it, but thats not often.

Kickass_d16z6
01-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Pot addiction is very very very very very underrated.

meat-market
01-18-2008, 09:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUhoorz6szE&feature=related

Nightfall
01-18-2008, 10:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUhoorz6szE&feature=related

"You ever suck dick for marijuana?"

Classic :rofl:

JAKE
01-21-2008, 07:51 AM
....I dont 100% agree with you, tallice.

Marijuana may be somewhat addictive, but I believe only to those who lack self control. Pot isn't a 1/4 as addictive as cigarettes, for instance. Granted, certain people cant go a certain amount of time without it, but its more habit than addiction, if you ask me. Then again, some people are just wired differently...

That's my .02 on that subject. Self control, in my mind, is a persons strongest tool, but it can also be one of the harder things to harness.

Kickass_d16z6
01-21-2008, 09:24 AM
When you have a good number of its users doing it 24/7 for years on end, I think its hard to say it isn't addictive.

JAKE
01-21-2008, 12:08 PM
the feeling itself, yea, ok. But the plant itself, no. Not for me anyway. I've quit multiple times, for years on end.

So, in my case anyway, its not addictive.

smalik1
02-18-2008, 05:32 PM
I like to smoke on occasion especially when I know i don't have to do anything important. Such as school or work and other chores. If i have a day where i can just relax a nice fat bowl does me right. These days i have no time.

mavvrik
02-25-2008, 11:27 PM
I smoke hookah, that's it, no illegal shit. As for drinking...I tend to do that A LOT. Like every, or every other weekend.

I smoke hookah because it's a nice way to relax after a long day. Plus, just like cigerattes, it help calm you and de-stress you. Just none of the shitty after affects that cigs do, like the odor (clothes, skin and mouth)

As for my drinking...I do it because of the depression. I know it sounds dumb but when I go out to drink I'm going out to get fkn faded. I just want to go out with my friends, and forget everything because it's all not worth remembering. I started really drinking like this like three or so months ago. The relation to depression makes sense because the last three months have been kinda shitty. To the point where every friday and/or saturday I just wanna go out and "forget"

stu
02-26-2008, 12:03 AM
Just go to the doctor and get on Prozac. If you have depression enough that you think that it is the cause of all of your drinking, going to the doctor to talk about why you might be depressed will probably be the best thing you've ever done for yourself.

InRox01
02-26-2008, 05:58 PM
I poke smot. I think this thread is dumb. Its like.. why do people buy imports... dope is for dopes..

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