Did you know?

[meat-market]

72% of Americans agree Marijuana should be a choice, not a crime
Each year $12 Billion of your tax money is spent to keep marijuana illegal.
Over $40 Billion is spent each year by the government on the war on drugs.
Over 10 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges since 1972.
Marijuana offenders regularly serve longer sentences than those convicted of violent offenses.



Not to beat a dead horse, but i thought these stats were neat-o.


Fact and Myth
Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.
Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."
Myth: Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value. Safer, more effective drugs are available. They include a synthetic version of THC, marijuana's primary active ingredient, which is marketed in the United States under the name Marinol.
Fact: Marijuana has been shown to be effective in reducing the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy, stimulating appetite in AIDS patients, and reducing intraocular pressure in people with glaucoma. There is also appreciable evidence that marijuana reduces muscle spasticity in patients with neurological disorders. A synthetic capsule is available by prescription, but it is not as effective as smoked marijuana for many patients. Pure THC may also produce more unpleasant psychoactive side effects than smoked marijuana. Many people use marijuana as a medicine today, despite its illegality. In doing so, they risk arrest and imprisonment.
Myth: Marijuana is Highly Addictive. Long term marijuana users experience physical dependence and withdrawal, and often need professional drug treatment to break their marijuana habits.
Fact: Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild.
Myth: Marijuana is a Gateway Drug. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.


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[Minotaur]

I still don't like the stuff.

[meat-market]

no worries ;)

[asianjkim]

wow, spending 40 mill for war on drugs. shit might as well let people do them.

[Dave_L]

I feel like it should be treated just like alcohol. You must be 21 yrs old to get it and it should be illegal to drive under the influence.

On a side note, anyone ever see the movie "Reefer madness"? It's about how they saw pot back in the day. It's hilarious to see how bad they made it. In comparison, they made it seem as bad as crack. ROFL!

[Nick_S]

It will be legal soon enough, or I'm moving to Europe.

[Jerkmode9316]

On a side note, anyone ever see the movie "Reefer madness"? It's about how they saw pot back in the day. It's hilarious to see how bad they made it. In comparison, they made it seem as bad as crack. ROFL!
Yes, I didnt believe that it was seriouse. The whole "turns you into zombies" bit is just out there. :rolf: at all of the propaganda.
MURDER, INSANITY, DEATH! :rofl:

I like these threads, but I bet its only a matter of a few posts before this ruffles feathers of the more "different" minded folk. Nice thread BTW.

[Jerkmode9316]

Europe.
I actually plan to go to AMDAM in late Nov.08 Im afraid I wont want to com back.

[asianjkim]

I think it would be better if they did legalize it like beer. They probably could make 40 million instead of losing it on war against drugs.

[Nick_S]

I actually plan to go to AMDAM in late Nov.08 Im afraid I wont want to com back.
It happened to my uncle and he has been there for the past 50yrs. I have a feeling it might happen to me if I go.

[Nick_S]

I think it would be better if they did legalize it like beer. They probably could make 40 million instead of losing it on war against drugs.
They would make a hell of a lot more than 40 mil.

[Jerkmode9316]

It happened to my uncle and he has been there for the past 50yrs. I have a feeling it might happen to me if I go.
I would if I knew someone who lived there, or if I could at least support myself I would.

[meat-market]

i laugh at it being a "gateway" drug. last time i checked the only time i ever tried anything besides pot, i was maddd drunk..

[HondaPower]

Good to know.

[Jerkmode9316]

I think human curiosity is a gateway drug.

[Kickass_d16z6]

On a side note, anyone ever see the movie "Reefer madness"? It's about how they saw pot back in the day. It's hilarious to see how bad they made it. In comparison, they made it seem as bad as crack. ROFL!
Did you also know this movie was funded by the liquor industry?

My personal feelings is that it should be decriminalized, but not legalized - it's how all drugs should be. Get rid of mass distribution - you get rid of advertising. Get rid of advertising - you will cut down on overall addiction. (including todays anti-drug commercials that do nothing but promote the substance).

I went through my "I wanna be high every day and trip on the weekends" phase, and yes, it created some adverse problems in my life. But you know what? I don't regret it at all. I was lectured by god knows how many friends about how acid puts holes in your brain and that I "changed" and wont go drinking anymore. A year later, I'm sober and lost 40lbs, while half my friends have DUIs and alcohol addictions.

[subiesweetie]

HAI Amsterdam trip, may-haps? :smoker:

[Jerkmode9316]

HAI Amsterdam trip, may-haps? :smoker:

I would be so fucking down. I would have went this last november but kinda didnt have anybody reliable to plan the trip with. I just figured this next time would be better. It suks ass too because I would have had the plane ticket for free.

[meat-market]

i think they have the cannabis cup in November, they sell packages to where you can go be a judge and smoke all the primo shit in the contest.. .

i think packages starts at like 900 per person....

[Jerkmode9316]

Yes your right on track. Its actually late november. Around thanksgiving. The Judges pass is only like 200 bucks, the rest is just flight and lodging.

[Dave_L]

One word...jackpot! :D

[Kickass_d16z6]

$900 so I can pass out on a single hit? No thanks :D

[V8SpankR]

I don't think it will be "legal" anytime soon but I do see a tolerance for it getting more appeal since I do know several people that have been caught with it and were just told to throw it away or destroy it in front of the cop but there's still plenty of Coloradans getting caught with less than an ounce and paying that hefty $100 fine which is just a petty misdemeanor. Colorado's laws are pretty tolerant already.

There sure is a lot of pot being smoked in mainstream movies and TV shows and from the makers of Superbad we'll get Pineapple Express next summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pineapple_Express

Look at That '70s Show which features an alluded to pot smoking segment every show and even middle america never even raised an eyebrow.

[subiesweetie]

:rofl:

Found these while looking up 'iPod accessories'...

https://www.gelaskins.com/images/skins/Madness/14__Madness_450.jpg

https://www.gelaskins.com/images/skins/TeenageSlaves/14_GelaSkins_TeenageSlaves_450.jpg

[meat-market]

hahahaha@ teenage dope slaves..

[talice]

Did it twice (first time was laced, and with my mom.. jee some roll model. thought maybe the second time would be better, lol) hated it both times, never do it again.

[V8SpankR]

Smoking pot generally isn't something you like from the start and not all pot is created equal. Smoking bad pot is a bad way to start.

[meat-market]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h62/fsrXpert/twizzle006.jpg

mmm, cannabis cup winner 2007

[Dave_L]

Damn! I want some of that!

[Bedlam]

Why dont you focus your time on creating threads that arent about drugs? Take your pro-drug crap somewhere else man..seriously. This is an AUTOMOTIVE forum.

Or at least keep your "pro drug" propaganda crap in Boulder or somewhere that people might care.

[meat-market]

nice, i think you may want to seek an anger mgmt counselor, pure hatred for something you personally refuse to open YOUR eyes up too, is no reason to bias hatred towards someone, (and many people you refuse to subject your close mind too, not every pot smoker is a dirt worshiping tree hugging hippie) or something you refuse to accept as "a way to deal with several pain mgmt situations" What should I do just get get hammered on pain meds for the rest of my life?, and die of liver failure?
do i smoke on the job.. no
do i smoke behind the wheel.. no
do i push smoking on anyone.. no
do i sell pot.. no
do i grow pot.. no
AND GET THIS, I EVEN WASH MY FEET!!!

GET A FUCKING CLUE!

[Jerkmode9316]

Why dont you focus your time on creating threads that arent about drugs? Take your pro-drug crap somewhere else man..seriously. This is an AUTOMOTIVE forum.

Or at least keep your "pro drug" propaganda crap in Boulder or somewhere that people might care.
I don't agree. I may not like certain subjects in the off-topic forum, but I just don't read them or read all of them. I honestly don't think things would be the same without the off-topic section. I mean essentially yes this is an automotive forum, but often we discuss other things that we like. Just so happens that some people who like cars, also like the reef. Its just another common factor in this social group. I mean your part of it or not.

[Nick_S]

Why dont you focus your time on creating threads that arent about drugs? Take your pro-drug crap somewhere else man..seriously. This is an AUTOMOTIVE forum.

Or at least keep your "pro drug" propaganda crap in Boulder or somewhere that people might care.

Quit your bitching you fucking pussy. If you don't like it don't fucking click on it its as simple as that you fucking pansy ass.

[M@]

Weed gives me a headache anymore.

[cesarp]

i'm the only one out of my friends that doenst really like weed. I've only been stoned like twice. but hey if you enjoy it then do it.

[Dave_L]

This is the anti-pot type of stuff that I hate. IT's automatically classified into something horrible because it's illegal. It's not that bad people. Millions of people get alcohol poisoning, drive drunk and kill people and generally lose self control under the influence of alcohol. But thats ok since it's legal. :rolleyes:

If you dont like it, thats fine. Its your opinion. However, if you look past the "illegal" part, pot really isnt that bad.

[M@]

Dunno if you took me the wrong way, but I personally was implying that the smoke itself physically gives me a headache, when I smell it... something in my brain doesn't seem to agree with something in the smoke and it makes my head feel like it's going to blow up. Suxors.

[Nick_S]

Dunno if you took me the wrong way, but I personally was implying that the smoke itself physically gives me a headache, when I smell it... something in my brain doesn't seem to agree with something in the smoke and it makes my head feel like it's going to blow up. Suxors.

Maybe you should try hitting a vaporizer. I don't think what dave said was directed towards you.

[Kickass_d16z6]

Hmm, guess I never realised off topic forum meant something completely different.

[meat-market]

This is the anti-pot type of stuff that I hate. IT's automatically classified into something horrible because it's illegal. It's not that bad people. Millions of people get alcohol poisoning, drive drunk and kill people and generally lose self control under the influence of alcohol. But thats ok since it's legal. :rolleyes:

If you dont like it, thats fine. Its your opinion. However, if you look past the "illegal" part, pot really isnt that bad.



One of my really good friends back in OH lost his little brother this year,
it was his 21st birthday, he drank maybe 4-5 drinks. went to bed and never woke up.
He was barely above the legal limit of DUI. Some rare type of alcohol poisoning that is growing at rather high rate among college students.
(he was at BGSU in northern Ohio)

RIP Jordan Shirrey

[Weston-work]

Why dont you focus your time on creating threads that arent about drugs? Take your pro-drug crap somewhere else man..seriously. This is an AUTOMOTIVE forum.

Or at least keep your "pro drug" propaganda crap in Boulder or somewhere that people might care.

:werd: Pushing a pro-drug agenda is BS and out of place, and it has no more credibility than some alcoholic trying to tell everyone about all the "wonderful" things about alcohol. Let's face the facts here... both alcohol and pot are intoxicants, and neither kind of intoxication is good for you, but as far as I'm concerned it's your own choice if you want to do it, as long as nobody else has to deal with the consequences of your actions. Just don't try to bullshit us by promoting it as a good thing, or saying that no harm comes from it. If you can't just call it a personal choice and admit that it comes with some consequences, then you're lying to yourself and you have your own issues to work out. Getting more people to smoke pot isn't going to change that.

[meat-market]

:werd: Pushing a pro-drug agenda is BS and out of place, and it has no more credibility than some alcoholic trying to tell everyone about all the "wonderful" things about alcohol. Let's face the facts here... both alcohol and pot are intoxicants, and neither kind of intoxication is good for you, but as far as I'm concerned it's your own choice if you want to do it, as long as nobody else has to deal with the consequences of your actions. Just don't try to bullshit us by promoting it as a good thing, or saying that no harm comes from it. If you can't just call it a personal choice and admit that it comes with some consequences, then you're lying to yourself and you have your own issues to work out. Getting more people to smoke pot isn't going to change that.

Yeah well I don't enjoy meatspin,, 2girls1cup and all the other repulsive shit that gets posted, do I cry like a whining bitch..

NO, I suggest getting over it, I don't push a god damn thing.

[Weston-work]

nice, i think you may want to seek an anger mgmt counselor, pure hatred for something you personally refuse to open YOUR eyes up too, is no reason to bias hatred towards someone, (and many people you refuse to subject your close mind too, not every pot smoker is a dirt worshiping tree hugging hippie) or something you refuse to accept as "a way to deal with several pain mgmt situations" What should I do just get get hammered on pain meds for the rest of my life?, and die of liver failure?
do i smoke on the job.. no
do i smoke behind the wheel.. no
do i push smoking on anyone.. no
do i sell pot.. no
do i grow pot.. no
AND GET THIS, I EVEN WASH MY FEET!!!

GET A FUCKING CLUE!

I assure that Bedlam not only has much more of a clue than you, but he also does not have the anger issues that you are currently demonstrating. I think he just has a brain in his head and has seen what drugs, including pot, do you people. Making good choices is not a popular message, but that doesn't make him any less right.

[Weston-work]

Yeah well I don't enjoy meatspin,, 2girls1cup and all the other repulsive shit that gets posted, do I cry like a whining bitch..

NO, I suggest getting over it, I don't push a god damn thing.

There you go demonstrating those anger issues again. And this whole thread is pretty obviously about you promoting pot use. I'm not necessarily against it being a personal choice for adults, but I will not tolerate people trying to feed me a load of BS, attempting to portray it as something that it is not.

[Terry]

If the government can't make a maximum profit then i don't think it will ever be legal.

[meat-market]

I assure that Bedlam not only has much more of a clue than you, but he also does not have the anger issues that you are currently demonstrating. I think he just has a brain in his head and has seen what drugs, including pot, do you people. Making good choices is not a popular message, but that doesn't make him any less right.

Although entertaining, Weston, you are quite off key in your description of me, nice try though!

Tearing down the intelligence of people you don't even know, in real life. Isn't a very good quality for someone to have.
(the only reason i brought the words hate/anger into the conversation was due to his "reason for editing")

I merely stated for him to get a clue, due to the fact that most people who do smoke pot is not for mere "enjoyment". Some people actually benefit from the use of pot for use in pain mgmt. I am not some kid who never left his mothers basement because he was a loser pot head addicted to dungeons and dragons.

I am not going to get into an intellectual pissing match over pot. I smoke it too sleep at night, and to deal with tightness in my back that nothing man made can seem to cure.

legal or not, it will no longer be an issue to me, as I will have my medical card soon enough.

So you can go ahead and lob me into the list of "loser pot smokers" if you like.
(I and many other people/family know me better than that)

I could really care less to read anything you have to say at this point, Thanks for the diagnosis Dr. Phil, I'll get into anger mgmt at once.

-Tim the "angry loser pot head guy on HAI" ("angry pothead", that just makes me chuckle even more.)

[Kickass_d16z6]

"Hey, you wanna try a stick of marijuana. All the cool kids are doing it!"
"no"
"well too bad!"

*punches you in the gut*

Yup, typical pothead behavior as usual

[meat-market]

nah man meth is where its at, meth and coke whores,

pot, that is just too hardcore foe me..

where is my beer bong, i gotta got get drunk, drive and run over a few grandma's, and maybe even take out my anger issues and punch a few babies and pregnant women.

[Nick_S]

Although entertaining, Weston, you are quite off key in your description of me, nice try though!

Tearing down the intelligence of people you don't even know, in real life. Isn't a very good quality for someone to have.
(the only reason i brought the words hate/anger into the conversation was due to his "reason for editing")

I merely stated for him to get a clue, due to the fact that most people who do smoke pot is not for mere "enjoyment". Some people actually benefit from the use of pot for use in pain mgmt. I am not some kid who never left his mothers basement because he was a loser pot head addicted to dungeons and dragons.

I am not going to get into an intellectual pissing match over pot. I smoke it too sleep at night, and to deal with tightness in my back that nothing man made can seem to cure.

legal or not, it will no longer be an issue to me, as I will have my medical card soon enough.

So you can go ahead and lob me into the list of "loser pot smokers" if you like.
(I and many other people/family know me better than that)

I could really care less to read anything you have to say at this point, Thanks for the diagnosis Dr. Phil, I'll get into anger mgmt at once.

-Tim the "angry loser pot head guy on HAI" ("angry pothead", that just makes me chuckle even more.)

:werd:

[V8SpankR]

The president of Progressive insurance is a pot advocate and freely admits to smoking it but off shore on his yacht in international waters;definetly a loser pothead. ;)

I still see no positive to drinking over smoking. Not doing either is best but if I gotta pick one I'll do the safer alternative that has minimal impact on society's woes unlike alcohol.

[Bedlam]

Quit your bitching you fucking pussy. If you don't like it don't fucking click on it its as simple as that you fucking pansy ass.

Remember, I'm still a mod..and that sort of post, really isnt appropriate anywhere. I was just voicing my opinion here..which I am free to do. :)

[Nick_S]

And I'm just voicing my opinion http://smiliesftw.com/x/2girls.gif

[Kickass_d16z6]

anyways, in other news - Pot prohibition Costs Taxpayers More Than $40 Billion/Year (http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7380)

[Weston-work]

Although entertaining, Weston, you are quite off key in your description of me, nice try though!

Tearing down the intelligence of people you don't even know, in real life. Isn't a very good quality for someone to have.
(the only reason i brought the words hate/anger into the conversation was due to his "reason for editing")

I merely stated for him to get a clue, due to the fact that most people who do smoke pot is not for mere "enjoyment". Some people actually benefit from the use of pot for use in pain mgmt. I am not some kid who never left his mothers basement because he was a loser pot head addicted to dungeons and dragons.

I am not going to get into an intellectual pissing match over pot. I smoke it too sleep at night, and to deal with tightness in my back that nothing man made can seem to cure.

legal or not, it will no longer be an issue to me, as I will have my medical card soon enough.

So you can go ahead and lob me into the list of "loser pot smokers" if you like.
(I and many other people/family know me better than that)

I could really care less to read anything you have to say at this point, Thanks for the diagnosis Dr. Phil, I'll get into anger mgmt at once.

-Tim the "angry loser pot head guy on HAI" ("angry pothead", that just makes me chuckle even more.)

Yeah, it's pretty funny that you accuse others of having anger issues because they simply stated the facts, and then you get all worked up and make angry posts like that. As for the rest of your ranting, you're just going off on a paranoid tangent and getting all angry about things that people aren't even arguing with you about. It's not my intention to "tear you down"... I didn't call you stupid, nor did I call you a loser, and I didn't say anything against medical use either (I actually voted in favor of that), so I'm still waiting for you to try to make a point that actually applies to what I said...

[M@]

My opinion: Weston sucks.

[Weston-work]

My opinion: Weston sucks.

There you go, jumping into something and trying to pick a fight again, even though you lose every time. :rolleyes:

[M@]

You know I love you, baby.

[Dave_L]

\This thread is starting to suck now.

[meat-market]

Yeah, it's pretty funny that you accuse others of having anger issues because they simply stated the facts, and then you get all worked up and make angry posts like that. As for the rest of your ranting, you're just going off on a paranoid tangent and getting all angry about things that people aren't even arguing with you about. It's not my intention to "tear you down"... I didn't call you stupid, nor did I call you a loser, and I didn't say anything against medical use either (I actually voted in favor of that), so I'm still waiting for you to try to make a point that actually applies to what I said...

well i didnt really think it was an issue, till i went back to quote the actual response that said "reason for eidt "I hate pot smoking hippies" has been ninja moderated to " Last edited by Bedlam : Today at 01:18 PM. Reason: I love making pot smokers lives harder. :)"..

entertaining..
distaste for pot smokers really doesn't make anyone's lives harder, it just makes people prejudice!

I think I will go get high and beat my dog till my hippie anger subsides...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awFGRSGxuFA&feature=related

1:35 lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwzeStEt_6I&feature=related

3:35 lol


hahahaha^^

[Kickass_d16z6]

Are you guys really arguing about who's angrier?

[M@]

:rofl:

[Bedlam]

well i didnt really think it was an issue, till i went back to quote the actual response that said "reason for eidt "I hate pot smoking hippies" has been ninja moderated to " Last edited by Bedlam : Today at 01:18 PM. Reason: I love making pot smokers lives harder. :)"..

entertaining..
distaste for pot smokers really doesn't make anyone's lives harder, it just makes people prejudice!

I think I will go get high and beat my dog till my hippie anger subsides...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awFGRSGxuFA&feature=related

1:35 lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwzeStEt_6I&feature=related

3:35 lol


hahahaha^^


So its "OK!" for you to make a thread about how great pot is, and how all these LIES! have been out there this whole time..but not for me to hate pot smoking hippies?

Obviously you dont understand my intent. I could post just as much (if not WAY more) anti-pot propaganda too..I just dont choose to, because people that need drugs for whatever reason, have already decided that its "ok" to let some form of drug change what reality is for them.

I could give a shit about people smoking pot, but people posting threads about how its really GOOD...and how EVIL!!! the goverment and anti-pot people are..make me sick. :)

[Syco]

I hate evil goverment

[Kickass_d16z6]

Just because you don't agree with those 'damn pot smoking hippies' doesn't mean that this stuff doesn't apply to you. We have spent half a trillion dollars trying to bar this stuff from our country, and look at what its gotten us. It takes one pass through Mann Chinese to find somebody selling pot, I don't care what side of the fence you are on, its wasted money and failed policy. There is a message in this thread, and theres more to the issue than a bunch of druggies with hidden agendas.

[forum]

Just because you don't agree with those 'damn pot smoking hippies' doesn't mean that this stuff doesn't apply to you. We have spent half a trillion dollars trying to bar this stuff from our country, and look at what its gotten us. It takes one pass through Mann Chinese to find somebody selling pot, I don't care what side of the fence you are on, its wasted money and failed policy. There is a message in this thread, and theres more to the issue than a bunch of druggies with hidden agendas.

So you're saying just because it costs money to prevent people from doing something illegal, we should just make it legal? We should just fire all the cops and let people do whatever the fuck they want then.





As was said in one of the IRC channels I frequent just yesterday...
<******> well that's definitely an encouraging sign
<******> the first semester I'm not perpetually stoned all the time I get A's in all my classes
<******> no actually I take that back
<******> the last time I got all As was the semester before I got introduced to pot


I've known plenty of people who smoked the shit, and whatever you want to say, it DOES affect them, especially long term use. It's obvious when talking to them.

[Kickass_d16z6]

All I'm saying is we need policy reform, the way it stands now both sides are losing. So why should we keep going down the same route we've been going down for the past 30 years when it clearly isn't working? Throwing money at drugs isn't going to solve the problem.

[Jerkmode9316]

So its "OK!" for you to make a thread about how great pot is, and how all these LIES! have been out there this whole time..but not for me to hate pot smoking hippies?

No its okay for you to hate them. But he was just explaining to Mr. High horse, Holier than thou (aka WESTON THE GREAT) why he sayed you have anger issues. Thats okay though, turn it into your problem when its clearly not.


Obviously you dont understand my intent.

No actually we just don't care enough to actually consider the other side of the arguement, very similar to yourself!



I could give a shit about people smoking pot, but people posting threads about how its really GOOD...and how EVIL!!! the goverment and anti-pot people are..make me sick. :)

Well if it makes you sick :rolleyes: then one would think it would be a good idea to stay away? I mean it is your opinion and all, but truth is that haters are very abundant. Truth is that your just as generic as any of them. Funny thing is the same haters are also pretty adament about making their "Great and all knowing" opinion known. Although I find quite amusing that its very seldom that we actually see facts coming from that end.

Seriously you guys must have a shitload of extra time on your hands or something. Either that or you actually think you are going to convince someone with your "pigheaded" opinions. Just go create an anti-pot thread if your so passionate about this. Don't worry though, I know Im not holding my breath.

I love how people complain so much about the problem, without ever once trying to find a solution.

Too weston:
I also find it very amusing that you come into threads and try to influence your opinion and beliefs on others, as if it correct and actually matters. THEN you get your panties in a bunch because people actually respond back negatively to your "Words of Wisdom". Not very suprising that this comes from someone who claims so adamently that he hates HAI, yet we still see his posts all of the time. You can lie to us Weston, but you shouldn't lie to yourself. We know you love HAI as much as everyone else, otherwise we wouldnt see your posts anymore. Maybe your just bored, eh? Just make sure to feed that horse of yours, so he keeps growing nice and tall!

To all my "heathen" pot brethren:
If we just ignore their posts, they might actually go away.

[Conrad]

This thread sucks... I have done drugs... I wouldnt want my children doing it... This thread sucks!

[Kickass_d16z6]

My parents give me drugs - its a special relationship I think

[Jerkmode9316]

This thread sucks... I have done drugs... I wouldnt want my children doing it... This thread sucks!

Wow awesome story. Tell it again.

BTW: Threads don't suck, just you!

(Who the hell would actually "desire" to have their children do drugs?:confused:)

[Conrad]

Wow awesome story. Tell it again.

BTW: Threads don't suck, just you!

(Who the hell would actually "desire" to have their children do drugs?:confused:)

Maybe you missed the story on how kids mimic their parents.

[Jerkmode9316]

Maybe you missed the story on how kids mimic their parents.
Maybe you missed the one where the kids didn't know.

Funny thing is my parents never really smoked pot, well that I knew of. Its okay though we can go with that if you would like. Damn everyone is full of social knowledge here.:killtard:

BTW say high to Weston for me while your up there!(On your soapbox that is)

[V8SpankR]

Man,this thread really got the anger going.

I don't condone pot on how great it is since doing no drugs is the best thing for a person but I think Pot is a safer alternative to alcohol that is very well documented in science and society. I think responsible adults should have a legal choice but shouldn't be paraded as you should do one or the other.

Parents should hide their addictions period from their children but look at how our society legally advertises alcohol and what kid by the time they are two or three years old can't recognize a cigarette in a persons mouth?

Smoking ciggies is the biggest drug evil in this county but most people that need to suck on 20 sticks of this drug a day don't consider themselves drug addicts and still poo-poo pot smokers.

Essentially in Colorado it is already tolerated by one in three voting adults and possessing up to an ounce is a petty offense so if you are already a responsible pot smoking adult then you probably have little to worry about anyway.

Marijuana is the least of our drug problems in this country and alcohol,nicotine and meth and other HARD drugs are much bigger problems that effect society as a whole.

[Kickass_d16z6]

Hey guys, drink! smoke! pop some anti-depressants! They're good for you and will make you popular and cool but these drugs over here, whatever you do, don't do these. These untaxed drugs will getcha, they'll make you lazy, or even worse, stupid! Tred carefully my friends, because Opera says it'll put holes in your brain!

[meat-market]

anger, the byproduct of not being capable of understanding kindergarten level comprehension.

/thread

[Conrad]

Maybe you missed the one where the kids didn't know.

Funny thing is my parents never really smoked pot, well that I knew of. Its okay though we can go with that if you would like. Damn everyone is full of social knowledge here.:killtard:

BTW say high to Weston for me while your up there!(On your soapbox that is)


If thats what you think... You cant honestly say though.

Well I dont want my children to smoke pot but its ok for yourself to do it.

It was funny because as I was driving through Denver the other night listening to loveline on 106.7 with Dr Drew and Striker.. Drew broke it down. Pot is just as socially addicting as cocaine is chemically. Pot smokers want to desensitize the negitiveness of smoking pot by conceptualizing the fact that its less damaging than alcohol or other drugs. There are long term negitive effects on the brain from smoking pot. Its scientifically proven! If you smoke pot in front of your kids or they know that you have smoked pot they are statistically more likely to do the same. Same as with alcohol! Children of alcoholics are WAY more likely to be the same!

Can pot mess you up? Yes. Does pot have a chemically long term negitive effect on your body? Yes. Does alcohol and cigs do that to? Yes. Does it make it ok since other people smoke and drink? Your call, no point to arguing that.

But like V8 said... There are other problems out there, such as cigs. (I am guilty of that one) But I will never smoke in front of my kids, other than my daughter who doesnt live with me, and only because her mom smokes too. So its a moot point. Eitherway, I truly dont care if you do it. But dont continue to try and push the fact that there is nothing wrong with it. Should it be legal? Sure... Put a label on it of the warnings that are on cigs.. Can cause lung cancer, and add the label will make you stupid.

[Jerkmode9316]

Hmm well I don't recall ever saying there was nothing wrong with it, but i'm with you I guess.

[slowfocusguy]

I never smoked or done any illegal drugs. I drink on a seldom occasion, so I know jack squat about the addictiveness of drugs. So I wont pretend I know what is what.

But what I dont know (and this will make me sound like an asshole) is that I find it weak and stupid that people will tell me with a straight face that they know they're killing themselves, and they dont care about it. Here I am working my ass off to improve myself, improve in standing in life, because a lot of people depends on my strength. Yet here is some bum taking the easy way out and accepting his social weakness and essentially killing himself.

Call me a snob, but that is it just pisses me off to no end.

As for pot itself. Never tried it, so I have no opinions on the effects of pot. I do know people who are so socially addicted to it that it disturbs me, but social addiction can happen with anything and that is a problem with the person, not the object the person is addicted to.

[Kickass_d16z6]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DdviStOFo&eurl

:D