View Full Version : New Civic Type R vs Honda S2000 Video
allmotorking
12-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Some awesome footage of the CTR taking on stock and tuned S2000 from Best Motoring
http://www.apartment107.com/article.php?id=1882
Deceptakhan
12-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Thats way bad ass. I liked the chase car noises, psstsstsstsstsst. Makes me want to get a si 4 door so I could get all the jdm goodies.
redb20teg
12-05-2007, 02:56 PM
i read somewhere they might bring it for 2010, sucks!! i wish wwe had it now..
asianjkim
12-05-2007, 06:44 PM
was sick vids, i always love those vids.
Top Gear reviewed the new Type-R and said it's a piece of shit compared to the last generation.
Deceptakhan
12-06-2007, 12:35 AM
Prolly cause brits love lil hatchies
allmotorking
12-06-2007, 05:27 PM
Top Gear reviewed the new Type-R and said it's a piece of shit compared to the last generation.
i saw it in a 1/4 mile and track battle on the new best motoring dvd and it spanked the acura rsx type r and could almost hang with the nsx type r.... i was impressed.
guessinthe2000
12-06-2007, 07:52 PM
i saw it in a 1/4 mile and track battle on the new best motoring dvd and it spanked the acura rsx type r and could almost hang with the nsx type r.... i was impressed.
I dont believe it can handle with the NSX type r.. I want proof
amaank
12-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Go Tsuchiya!!!
Nice vids!
allmotorking
12-07-2007, 02:10 PM
I dont believe it can handle with the NSX type r.. I want proof
it can't beat the nsx type r, but could hang with it. you gotta watch the new best motoring vol 21 DVD for proof
ShervRacer
12-09-2007, 06:26 PM
i saw it in a 1/4 mile and track battle on the new best motoring dvd and it spanked the acura rsx type r and could almost hang with the nsx type r.... i was impressed.
I thought the british Type-R is different from the Japanese Type-R in many ways (size/look/chassis/suspension).
I was not able to find specs about the car on http://www.honda.co.uk/car/ but I'll look somewhere else later tonight.
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVICTYPE-R/
Here is info thanks to Wikipedia
[edit] 3rd Generation (FD2 & FN Chassis)
3rd Generation
(FN/FD2)
Production 2007-present
Body style(s) 4-door sedan (FD2)
3-door hatchback (FN)
Layout FF layout
Engine(s) 2.0 L K20A I4 (FD2)
2.0 L K20Z4 I4 (FN)
Transmission(s) 6-speed manual
The current generation Civic Type R is offered in two distinct forms one for the European market and one for the Japanese domestic market
[edit] FD2 Chassis
The Japanese market Civic Type R (FD2) went on sale on the 30th March 2007. For the first time the JDM Civic is sold as a four door sedan rather than a three door hatchback. The new Japanese model's engine output is higher than the European version's, with 222bhp (225 PS) being developed at 8,400rpm and 159lb ft (215 NM) of torque peaking at 6,100rpm (versus 198bhp at 7,800rpm and 142lb ft at 5,600rpm for the European model). Drive is fed through a close ratio six speed gearbox, and a limited slip differential is fitted as standard. The front brake discs are fitted with four pot Brembo calipers, and the car runs on 225/40 R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tyres. A Type R aero kit and trademark black and red bucket seats complete the package.
Honda claims the body is 50% more rigid than the previous Japan-only Integra Type R, and the new model features an independent rear suspension rather than the torsion beam configuration used on the latest European Civic Type-R.[1] To save weight, aluminum is used extensively and bonded with adhesive instead of welded.
In back to back tests the FD2 Type-R was on average 1 second quicker than the (DC5) Integra Type-R at the Tsukuba Circuit and 4 seconds faster at Suzuka.[2]
[edit] FN Chassis
The European market Civic Type R is offered only as a three door hatch back and uses a different chassis and internal layout (notably tank placement below the driver's seat), which will serve as base for the next Honda Fit. The rear suspension formerly a double wishbone set up has been changed to a less complex torsion beam axle. The drive train is largely the same as the out going model offering 198 bhp at 7,800rpm and 142lb ft of torque at 5,600 rpm. The new European Civic Type R has met with criticism from evo magazine who complained that it falls short dynamically when compared to rivals like the European market Ford Focus ST and Volkswagen Golf GTi particularly in the areas of steering and chassis balance. [3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R
So euro model has less power and rear torsion beam suspension... >.< that is just odd.
Weston
12-09-2007, 06:56 PM
lol @ the Japanese. It was entertaining, but I'd be a little more convinced by the stock vs stock "battle" if they had an S2000 driver that actually hits his apexes and doesn't totally give away the inside line. He got passed due to one of his many driving mistakes. If he had his act together, he could have held off the Civic for that short race, even if it was truely the faster car. The guy in the back tends to have some advantages, but you still need to be more than just faster to make a pass; you need to either be a lot faster in the right place, or wait for the other guy to make a mistake.
The second set of videos were a lot better, but the fact that they spent so much time with only one hand on the wheel shows that they're either noobs or just sandbagging to put on a show. I'm thinking it's the later.
chris_venturini
12-09-2007, 08:11 PM
the lap times of the "tuned" cars werent really any faster, in fact the civic got slower. rice
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