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NoPepsiForYou
10-15-2002, 10:15 PM
My First Post, hehe
NE ways I am 15 and can't drive without my wonderful parents in the car but I am looking at buying my first car and I wanted your imput on the matter.
I got $5,000, $2,000 more if I sell my dirt bike:cry: But its gotta be a FWD or AWD and I oviously want it to have lots of aftermarket stuff.
I know everybody will say honda or acura, but are there any cars you think suck or rock...please give me imput:gapteeth:
Until then I ;wor; to you driving folk
Why do you think that everyone will say Honda/Acura. You can literally make anything you want as fast as you want. But...you will here many different makes besides just Honda. For instance, VW/Audi, Mazda, Subaru, and yes, even Ford, Dodge, and Chevy make dependable, decently powered, highly tunable, FWD cars. Just do everyone who has been blessed with vision a favor and DO NOT RICE IT OUT! PLEASE.
Oh, and welcome to the board, you can learn a lot if you stick around long enough.
b18cya-T
10-16-2002, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by stu
Ford, Dodge, and Chevy make dependable, decently powered, highly tunable, FWD cars.
they do????
i'd suggest getting a first gen AWD DSM. do those break down as often if people dont mod them??
greddy1.6
10-16-2002, 08:31 AM
I agree with obi a first gen awd dsm is a very good start especially for a 1st car their relatviely cheap and they have a good base platform to work with and lots of aftermarket parts for them. by the way welcome to the board
73Camaro
10-16-2002, 11:31 AM
Your missin out if you get a FWD car! With a RWD car you can drift (good drift not no e-brake drift) You can do donuts easy and you can have a hell of a time trying to drive in ice but it's fun! Get a RWD!!!! :) Anyway, Welcome to the board I am sure you will like it, I can't help naming cars but I am sure you will find a car that will suit you. Just NO rice! :)
nolimitsoldier
10-16-2002, 11:52 AM
get a dub
b18cya-T
10-16-2002, 01:21 PM
hey 73camaro, are you sure you'd want a 16-year-old who just got his license to be attempting to drift all over the road?
Maverick
10-16-2002, 02:09 PM
Ford Aspire.......you could probably get 2 or 3 for $5000
BoraTurbo
10-16-2002, 04:30 PM
If i had 5,000 g's to spend on my first car, it would with out a doubt be a 1993 white first gen gsx. I would do a 18g turbo with 3" exhaust, boost controller, front mount intercooler, fuel pump, enjectors, and 110 octane race fuel. That shoud give you solid mid 12's all day long:)
nolimitsoldier
10-16-2002, 04:38 PM
mmmmm, race gas!
MichaelT
10-16-2002, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by BoraTurbo
If i had 5,000 g's to spend on my first car, it would with out a doubt be a 1993 white first gen gsx. I would do a 18g turbo with 3" exhaust, boost controller, front mount intercooler, fuel pump, enjectors, and 110 octane race fuel. That shoud give you solid mid 12's all day long:)
Werd
NoPepsiForYou
10-16-2002, 07:24 PM
Yea I want a RWD car...but it would suck in the ice and on top of that my parents wont let me, lol.
And don't worry I won't rice it out...I don't see the point in it, waste money on an ugly wing, I just done get it:confused:
anyways I am like super newb so what is a first gen GSX.
and also, I don't want an ugly car:gapteeth:
BoraTurbo
10-16-2002, 07:55 PM
First generation mitubishi eclipse. 4g63 turbo charged motor. By far the best bang for the buck import car IMO. bone stock, those cars can run mid 15's at banimere. with about 1200 bucks into it, i would imagine that you would run 13's easy. I don't think they are ugly but some have a different opinion:) IMO they look the best with 16" white wheels and a totaly stock looking body w/good paint. first gens, are notorious for breaking once you start moding them but after you fix those few things, it should hold up pretty well. I often think of selling my car and buying a first gen and making it a 10 second street car with a bunch of money theft over:) go to www.clubdsm.com or www.rockymountaindsm.com and you should be able to find some pics of the car. Also, since they are awd, they are a great colorado car for the snow. If you have a little bit more money to spend, by a 2nd gen eclipse gsx...I think they look alot better but i don't think they are as easy to mod. good luck.
oh yeah, if you are looking for reliability, not speed, go with a honda or acura;) let the flaming begin:)
NoPepsiForYou
10-16-2002, 08:04 PM
we got more hondas at my school that we know what do with:PIMP: (I like all of these smilies)
Ok notha question...how do I know what gen it is, do they go up a generation every time the re model them or sumthin?
BoraTurbo
10-16-2002, 10:25 PM
yes.
if you want a cheap car that will go very fast for little money, BUY A FIRST GENERATION ECLIPSE GSX!!!
73Camaro
10-16-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Obi Wan B18cya
hey 73camaro, are you sure you'd want a 16-year-old who just got his license to be attempting to drift all over the road?
Hmmm.... Good Point!!
b18cya-T
10-17-2002, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by BoraTurbo
If i had 5,000 g's to spend on my first car, it would with out a doubt be a 1993 white first gen gsx. I would do a 18g turbo with 3" exhaust, boost controller, front mount intercooler, fuel pump, enjectors, and 110 octane race fuel. That shoud give you solid mid 12's all day long:)
totally dood, white ownz...
im kinda wishin I had bought a 1st or 2nd gen eclipse rather than the integra i currently own...vtec is overrated
Get a Beetle. It's RWD, extremely easy to work on, very easy to get power out of, probably does good in the snow (since the engine is in back), and they only weigh like 1900 pounds. Also, they are extremely cheap.
NoPepsiForYou
10-17-2002, 03:56 PM
There arn't many eclipes in the paper (under like 150,000 miles) Ohh well, I will look at a couple next week, see how I like em
Buy my '69 Cadillac hearse. It's RWD, has a 500ci engine and your parents will probably have a heart attack and/or put you into therapy :p
Maverick
10-17-2002, 04:36 PM
My advice is to get the car that you want and don't rely on a web message board to make your decision...........by all means take what you can from the advice given to you, but don't buy a certain car just becasue somebody told you too. If you want an unbiased opinion go to a site like www.cars.com or epinions.com or search google.
NoPepsiForYou
10-17-2002, 04:47 PM
Yea I won't, I am just looking here for ideas.
Like last month I saw some car in the paper (forgot the name) but it was a V-6 Twin Turbo for $5,000, THAT would make my parents get a heart attack
nah, you can listen to advice from a board, just not from Brandon cuz he will try to sway you to the dark side.... "Kaufen Sie Deutschen oder sterben Sie!!!"
Well, Ich bin ein auslander, Brandon ist ein Berliner!!! :p
NoPepsiForYou
10-18-2002, 12:15 AM
Dark Side? Brandon?
NE ways...what about a jetta or what about a Toyota celica )both around 1995? anybody here got sumthin bad or good on them?
Thanx for all your help so far guys.
doubletwins
10-18-2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
Yea I won't, I am just looking here for ideas.
Like last month I saw some car in the paper (forgot the name) but it was a V-6 Twin Turbo for $5,000, THAT would make my parents get a heart attack
Yeah, I saw a 1990 300ZX TT in the paper today for $5000. I think it only had 105K miles on it too.. :eek:
Oh yeah, no one can beat this... My cousin calls me up and tells me about all this stuff he got for really cheap at some estate sale today. Some guy died and his daughters had to come out and sell everything. One of them got a VR4 3000GT, the other a TRD supercharged 4Runner. They also sold a 1995-1996? VR4 3000GT all leathered out with 13,000 original miles on it.........for $13,000. :eek:
Can you FUCKING believe that???
Also, don't listen to 94 hatch, only listen to me, do everything that I say, and no one will get hurt, except for maybe you, and some innocent by-standards. Just kidding, BUT.... if you did get something like a Beetle, I promise you would never get harassed for how loud your exhaust was, you wouldn't have to do any smog testing, you could lower it all the way to the ground and no one would care, you don't have any emisions equipment to deal with, they can be made to handle extremely well, they are so cheap (and so are the parts) that it is not even funny, and insurance would be cheap, and no matter how stupid you made it look, NO ONE would EVER call you a ricer, EVER.
I just wanted to throw that out to you. I know that you wouldn't really get a Beetle. They have four wheel drum brakes (yuck), no air bags (yuck), and probably have horrible crash test standards, and they smell pretty bad. Besides, who in their right mind would want to out accelerate, out turn, and out brake anyone in a thirty year old car? Right Dustin?
But you could get a 1998 old style Beetle from Mexico.
Just go with a HB Civic. Then go over to the dark side (Dark side = Turbo). But you have to learn lots before you attempt any turbo stuff. Good luck!
Oh also, like 94hatch said, don't listen to me.
1998cc
10-18-2002, 11:13 AM
Do you know what the insurance would be for a 16 year old and a turbo car? It will be expensive.
HONDA GHANDI
10-18-2002, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Obi Wan B18cya
...vtec is overrated
Youre not doing it right. wanna race?
I didn't say that I wanted him to get that good deal. And yes I do know, my mon is an insurance boker.
NoPepsiForYou
10-18-2002, 10:18 PM
it goes up when you get turbo? aww what a jip!
Brian
10-19-2002, 12:13 AM
Depends on a lot of factors. My dad is an insurance agent, he does mainly commercial, but he deals with this stuff. Your driving record counts, as does the theft rating on the car, and your age. My GTI insurance is like half of what my civic was just because of the theft rating. Even though it was turbocharged....
NoPepsiForYou
10-19-2002, 11:40 AM
So an acura would have a higher insurance rating than say a Ford?
Violator
10-19-2002, 12:05 PM
how bout a 92' All Trac turbo Celica...200 hp outa the box (at least that I can recall). It's reliable, yet somewhat safe to drive in the winter, I'm not sure how hard it's gonna be to get parts though. They look really good too, I was gonna get a GTS until I saw my civic.
1998cc
10-20-2002, 08:36 PM
It's easy to get parts for the 90-93 celica All-trac, because it shares the same engine and transmission as the mr2 turbo. Those cars are pretty rare though.
NoPepsiForYou
10-20-2002, 08:40 PM
yea...I was lookin thru the paper today and didn't see any.
Jarod
10-20-2002, 08:57 PM
May I ask...what sort of friends do you have? And how much of influence will they have over you in this car? ANother thing, why cant you get a turbo or a RWD? That sorta baffles me cause my mother really didnt care weather I got a turbo or not. If you can get a RWD car, Id say go with a MR2 or Miata. Who cares what other people think, the Miata is a real sports car that can achieve around 300HP+ (if done ight with a lot of =$$) and 'Flyin' Miata', a well respected tuning shop located in Grand Junction. (www.flyinmiata.com for more).
Antoehr thing, will you be paying for insurance? My mom i n insurance agent, and she ran a quote for me on a 91 MR2 turbo and a MR2 n/a, the n/a was $733 ever 6 months for full coverage, and $763 for the turbo. Not much of a jump, but figure, are you going to be on your own insurance, then just settle with a crap beater car (sometimes the funnest). Looking back ,I always sorta tried to persuade my best bud into getting an import or something, he had it all planned that he was going to get a Dodge Stealth TT, but he got his grandpa's 87 Caddilac.
Just some things to think about...
NoPepsiForYou
10-20-2002, 09:09 PM
Well its my parents decision for me to to get a RWD. And I never said I didn't want turbo, I like turbo, turbo is good:D
and I got a couple friends that say honda sux, a couple that say honda rocks and one that wants me to get a bike. But I kinda like hondas so :fu: them
and my parents are paying for my insurance so I don't really give a crap about that;)
Jarod
10-20-2002, 09:16 PM
The way I see it, you are paying for it, buy wat you want. You friends say Honda's suck because basicly, they are econoboxes with no torque. What do you[ want out of your car?
1998cc
10-20-2002, 09:23 PM
Those mr2 turbos before 93 have suspension problems. The steering gets squirelly especially if you haven't driven a rear mid-mounted engine.
Jarod
10-20-2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by 1998cc
Those mr2 turbos before 93 have suspension problems. The steering gets squirelly especially if you haven't driven a rear mid-mounted engine.
Agreed, but first accept that the MR2 was ment t be a sports/race car, not a gorcery getter econobox. the 93 was fitted to suit whinny American drivers who couldnt handle race inspirded susension.
MichaelT
10-20-2002, 09:29 PM
I recomend a Galant VR-4
1998cc
10-20-2002, 09:39 PM
I would reccomend a 90-94 Nissan Sentra. FWD, light weight and you can drop in a sr20det for under a grand.
Originally posted by Jarod
You friends say Honda's suck because basicly, they are econoboxes with no torque. What do you[ want out of your car?
What a stupid statement.
Have you ever driven a Cavalier, a Focus, an Escort, a Contour, a Celica, a Prism (same as Corolla), an Eclipse, a Neon, a Sentra, an Altima, a Taurus, a Malibu, an Alero (same as Malibu), a Beetle, a Jetta, or a Golf?
All of these cars are what YOU would call torqueless. And all of the base models are econoboxes. Does that mean that Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Dodge, Nissan, Oldsmobile, and Volkswagon suck? That's a lot of shitty cars.:smashfrea
Oh yeah, there is also the Avenger, the Stratus, the Sebring, the Breeze. Do I really need to go on to make my point here?
NoPepsiForYou
10-20-2002, 11:05 PM
:eek:
S4AudiGirl
10-21-2002, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Master Killer
get a dub
What Brandon said. German cars kick a$$! ;RoCkOn;
Jarod
10-21-2002, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by stu
What a stupid statement.
Have you ever driven a Cavalier, a Focus, an Escort, a Contour, a Celica, a Prism (same as Corolla), an Eclipse, a Neon, a Sentra, an Altima, a Taurus, a Malibu, an Alero (same as Malibu), a Beetle, a Jetta, or a Golf?
All of these cars are what YOU would call torqueless. And all of the base models are econoboxes. Does that mean that Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Dodge, Nissan, Oldsmobile, and Volkswagon suck? That's a lot of shitty cars.:smashfrea
Oh yeah, there is also the Avenger, the Stratus, the Sebring, the Breeze. Do I really need to go on to make my point here?
What point are you trying to make?
That if every company that made a base model car (i.e. econobox) was shitty, then there would be almost no good car companies. Just in case you haven't noticed. None of these car manufaturers make only econoboxes. You shouldn't assume that of Honda.
Jarod
10-21-2002, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by stu
That if every company that made a base model car (i.e. econobox) was shitty, then there would be almost no good car companies. Just in case you haven't noticed. None of these car manufaturers make only econoboxes. You shouldn't assume that of Honda.
Did I say that? Im sorry, I guess I implied it, but they are all econo cars..even the NSX and the s2k, just because they are classified as sports car, they are still economical, and most people see that a true sports car needs more fluids than your typical DX or LX.
NoPepsiForYou
10-21-2002, 04:13 PM
I don't know how much money you got but $50,000 isn't very economical to me.
But NE ways, can't we all just get along?
MichaelT
10-21-2002, 07:22 PM
once again look into a galant VR-4
NoPepsiForYou
10-21-2002, 08:00 PM
kinda ghetto lookin if you ask me:Peace:
1998cc
10-21-2002, 10:00 PM
two words SLEEPER and SLEEPER. It would be fun destroying mustangs and what not in a 10 year old 4 door. They only imported 3000 so they are kind of rare outside of e-bay.
NoPepsiForYou
10-21-2002, 10:02 PM
good ol' ebay:D
But I don't think I would take the chance to buy a car on there.
How do you figure that an NSX is an Econobox. Not mad anymore, just curious.
arandall850
10-31-2002, 01:44 PM
I say....
Turbocharged car (I prefer Volvo, but...) Cause they're really cheap to make faster. Plus with the Volvo, talk about a sleeper. Anyways, do whatever you want, but trust me, turbos are worth it man.
BoraTurbo
10-31-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Jarod
The way I see it, you are paying for it, buy wat you want. You friends say Honda's suck because basicly, they are econoboxes with no torque. What do you[ want out of your car?
Hondas may not have very much torque but vw1.8t's come stock with over 200ft/lbs of torque(awp 2002). with just a few mods, my car makes between 250 and 280 ft/lbs torque to the wheels... Hondas are great cars and they can be made extremely fast(with a built motor and a big turbo).
IMO...get a 91-93 talon tsi/eclipse gsx or galant v-r4.
MadMaxine
11-10-2002, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by S4AudiGirl
What Brandon said. German cars kick a$$! ;RoCkOn;
yeah! german engineering rocks!
MichaelT
11-10-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by MadMaxine
yeah! german engineering rocks!
Yea if you want a german sleeper look into a 93' passat with a vr6, with a turbo those thing are wicked fast. eiptuning has some badass kits. You can pick a passat up for only $3000-4000. I'm still partial to the Galant vr-4
Richard T
11-12-2002, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by MichaelT
I'm still partial to the Galant vr-4
hmmmm, I wonder who planted that seed? :D
- big brother and former GVR4 owner ('91 #1215)
CivicChik95
11-18-2002, 09:03 PM
What other restrictions do your parents have on your car choice besides RWD? I know when I was getting my second car (my first was an 82' 320i :) yeah it was fun) my parents said absolutely no sports car so I got my civic which I can make fast (well, sorta), and they didnt know that.
It's not only because of the sportiness, but because of the insurance. You can make your Civic as fast as you want, but it won't change the insurance.
NoPepsiForYou
11-18-2002, 09:05 PM
Can't be RWD and has to have an Airbag.
They don't care how fast it goes;RoCkOn;
Dallas J
11-18-2002, 09:17 PM
Air bag huh... I dont think ive ever seen a 1g DSM with an Airbag.
My vote is on an early 90s Impresa L. Get a turbo kit for that and youll be having fun.
-Dallas J
GirlienCivic
11-18-2002, 09:29 PM
I would say to get a 92-95 civic hatchback. You can pay about $2500 for one (great bodied) and then put the same amount into it. You can get an Si and have a b16 motor, then all you have to do is build it or turbo. THat way you dont have to sell your bike unless there is something you REALLY want for it and its decently new (the parents like that). That's my two cents anyway.
CivicChik95
11-18-2002, 10:57 PM
I like the gsx idea-it makes me want to trade my car in!!
MichaelT
11-19-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by CivicChik95
I like the gsx idea-it makes me want to trade my car in!!
Drive one with a larger turbo and significant boost and you'll be a boostaholic for life!
I've been having boost withdraw issues for the past two years! :(
BTW, this is Richard, not Michael.
gjcivic
11-19-2002, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
And don't worry I won't rice it out...I don't see the point in it, waste money on an ugly wing, I just done get it:confused:
I know I'm a little late...
Damn, I like this kid alreaddy...:D
kinda brings a :cry: to my eye to know that there are some intellegent ones out there:D
I like the 92-95 civic idea... cheap reliable car, cheap insurance, lots of donars in the junk yard, and lots of available mods....
second gen. integas are good too... very uderapriciated
95GSRB18C
11-25-2002, 08:41 AM
yea i like the 2nd gen integras too...but i dont think they came with airbags did they? I know the 94+ did and also the 92-95 Civic. Hmmm...decisions, decisions.....
MichaelT
11-25-2002, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Dallas J
Air bag huh... I dont think ive ever seen a 1g DSM with an Airbag.
-Dallas J
If I'm not mistaken (which i may be) the Galant vr4 has a driver side airbag but no passanger side airbag.
Richard T
11-26-2002, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by MichaelT
If I'm not mistaken (which i may be) the Galant vr4 has a driver side airbag but no passanger side airbag.
Though there is certainly room for one in the steering wheel, no driver's side airbag on the GVR4. :)
Talonstylz
12-16-2002, 06:22 PM
i think the 1st Gen Talon has an Drivers Airbag. Guess im late too, oh well. If you end up lookin for an Eclipse/Talon, look for 1st gen. Ive heard probs with crankwalk under high HP from the 2nd Gens. Got mine in perfect condition for $2700
NoPepsiForYou
12-16-2002, 06:59 PM
naw its not too late, I am still looking around.
But I have raised a little more money and now I have about $7,000 for a car/mods. Damn im rich:D
NoPepsiForYou
01-04-2003, 06:17 PM
I went looking around today around Havana and what I found was:
'94 integra: Liked it but didn't have much low end torque
'95 Eclipse: I wasn't able to test drive, but I like everything about it so far.
'97 Impreza: again, wasn't able to test drive but I found it a little small.
'95 Jetta: Was pretty beat up, and the transmission sucked with only about 56,000 miles. But they said that the ones made in mexico have a lot of problems...anybody else here this?
Galant (don't know which year): I didn't test drive it but I didn't really like how they looked.
Honda: I have ruled out Hondas basicly because my family already has 2 and that everybody elses seems to own one (I wanna be different!)
Thats all I was really able to do, I wasn't able to find any 1st gen eclipses (which I really wanted to do)
But back to the VW thing, I was told that the ones made in mexico seems to be pretty cruddy and the ones made in Germany seem to hold up much better (Vin number ending in 8) is this really true, or pure myth?
91IntegraXsi
01-04-2003, 06:29 PM
i dunno much about that but i do kno that VW arent that great looking, and i dotn kno if they are all that fast. i just like the GTI's. :)
~Peace~
95GSRB18C
01-04-2003, 09:00 PM
you still havent found a car yet??
NoPepsiForYou
01-04-2003, 09:18 PM
no, lol.
I havn't really been looking very much lately.
BoraTurbo
01-04-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by 91IntegraXsi
i dunno much about that but i do kno that VW arent that great looking, and i dotn kno if they are all that fast. i just like the GTI's. :)
~Peace~
Hmmmmmmmmmm, low 14's with 2 mods(chip and down pipe w/dumptube) isn't fast??? its ok, most people don't know that there fast.
NoPepsiForYou
01-04-2003, 09:35 PM
what do you think about a jetta VR6?
Okay listen kid... Take it from me... You can check the members profile area... I've owned every piece and pile from here to the mississippi... On top of that... I've worked at Brakes Plus, and Discount tire... I've seen lots of problems from lots of cars...
The whole 1st Gen Eclipse//Talon Isn't a bad idea but there's some small print you want to be aware of... They are hard to keep up, they take work, you have to know what you're doin, ask TalonStylz... I'm not positive but my guess is he keeps his car up pretty well so that it don't die on a regulair basses. I've seen lots of problems from lots of generations of lots of DSMs.
Now here is somethin' that I've herd from a lot of different gear heads in my time, "DSMs are fast but they're hard to keep as an everyday driver" So that's just somethin' to keep in the back of your mind... I'm not telling you DON'T BUY ONE... I'm just sayin' do take care of the thing if you do decide on one.
As for the 92-95 Civic... There's where I'd have to put my money... Infact, that is where I put my money... I just bought a 92 Civic Hatch for 1500 and it had a small amount of frame damage which cost me 1300... There ya go... My car looks brand new and runs brand new for about 2800 bucks... From there, you've got the rest of your money to mod your car, and when you purchase a Honda, the sky is the limit kid... I mean my best advice would be engine swap, because that is what I'm thinkin' and you can go from ZC (1.6 SOHC non V-TEC) which is pretty damn slow, all the way up to CR-VTEC (2.0 DOHC V-TEC) which is pretty damn fast, and everyone on the board will tell you that there is a countless amount of companies that make some pretty bomb turbo set ups for the B series engines... I mean think about a 2.0L DOHC V-TEC runnin' 20 lbs. of boost on bulletproof internals... You'd smoke your fair share of corvettes everyday :D
Just make up your own mind kid... But all I can say is think about somethin' before you do it... And don't drink and make decisions. Or drink and drive... Or drink and hit on girls... Or drink and.... Yeah so good luck and if you've got anymore questions... There's about a thousand of us here to help ya
95GSRB18C
01-05-2003, 06:17 AM
you should buy 92CX's hatchback for $7900. :)
Seriouisly, that's no joke... I almost cryed lookin' at that car last night... It's so freakin' perfect I swear to god... The suspension, interior... GS-R engine, built valve train... It's perfect I tell you PERFECT! Even the exterior, my fav colors and the black tint looks PERFECT with the black dipped rims. Check it out man, I HIGHLY recomend it.
NoPepsiForYou
01-05-2003, 09:49 PM
About how much does it cost to get a decent engine for a Civic?
95GSRB18C
01-05-2003, 09:53 PM
Depends on what you want...there are B16's, B18's...check out www.hmotorsonline.com and see the prices on their motors. :)
Very true... If you look at the price of that 92 CX me and Bry told ya you should get... You can see that that car is worth a grip and he's takin' it pretty hard to sell it for as much as he is... Cuz on Hmotors, price a B18C... You'll see that's about 3300... And I mean that's damn near half of what he's askin' and that's not to mention the suspension work he's done... And the rest of the engine work that has been done, includin' all the skunk2 and ITR parts... I say that car is easy worth a good 15 grand... But we all know that you never quite get what you put into a car
Talus
01-05-2003, 11:32 PM
About the VW's:
almost every v-dub you find is going to be made in Mexico except for the Wolfsburg editions (Germany) and a few examples made in Brazil and the U.S.
German VINs start with 'W'. US VINS start with '1'. Mexican VINs start with '3'. Brazilian VINs start with '9'.
VW's are very well built cars. They are built out of high quality components (mostly German) and assembled with tight tolerances. Remember, the design, engineering and soul of the car comes from Germany. They just put it together in Mexico.
In my opinion, the older cars (85-92 A2 chassis and 93-99 1/2 A3 chassis) are the best and most reliable. There seems to be more little problems with the new Golfs/Jettas, but they are only minor inconveniences like problems with power windows.
The only proven and noticable diffrence between a Mexico assembled car and a German one is the German paint is much better and lasts longer. Byond that, it's only speculation and opinion.
The VR6 is a good engine if you want lots of all motor power. But the VR6 is heavy and dominates the engine bay (imagine stuffing a V6 into an old civic or CRX) and has less performance parts available for it. My preference would be to build the 2.0 liter with forced inductoin. You can get equal power with much better balance in the handling.
Good luck. Happy car hunting.
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