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1.8fury
10-17-2007, 11:10 PM
so i just got a GST... the guy said its and aftermarket clutch and it needs to be blead.. i blead it.. nothing. i then find out you have to shim that little ball that connects to the shift fork... anyone heard of this??
Evil_SpeedRacer
10-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Yeah, lotsa people just get a longer shaft. Its to extend the movement of the fork itself. What does it do exactly? Are you getting a good firm pedal?
1.8fury
10-18-2007, 09:13 AM
not really firm pedal. i took it to jacks transmissions and they gave me a shim and shift fork. they also said its a pretty common thing... it basically feels like the clutch is not releasing enough to line of the synchros and it wont go into gear...
If that's what Jack's Trannys says, it's true... period.
Evil_SpeedRacer
10-18-2007, 10:45 AM
The forks have been known to bend before. I trust the word of Jacks as well. I wonder, did you replace the old used fluid with new fluid? How was the condition of the piston and seal on the slave? Were you filling the master while you were bleeding it? If it goes too low then it will suck air into the line and cause a soft pedal/poor engagement of the gears. Here is an explanaition of the fork/pivot issue. This was taken from the 1,000 AAQ website:
My clutch engages/disengages very close to the floor. Is there a fix?http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/3logos.jpg (http://www.dsm.org/scripts/as.asp?s=clutch+NEAR+pedal+NEAR+adjust*)Search for this topic now! (http://www.dsm.org/scripts/as.asp?s=clutch+NEAR+pedal+NEAR+adjust*)
For those owning a new clutch, it is normal for the engagement point to drop low. The DSM clutch mechanisms are so constructed as to move the engagement point higher as the clutch wears.
To adjust the clutch on 1Gs, read this post (http://www.dsm.org/archives/98/04/980409.txt/18.html) by Dirk Starksen of Advanced Clutch Technology (ACT), and this one (http://www.dsm.org/archives/95/12/951205.txt/12.html) by Jim McKenna. For 2Gs, read this post (http://www.dsm.org/archives/97/12/971219.txt/37.html) by Brett Nashlund.
There is some mention in the archives about using washers to shim the clutch fulcrum. Kyle Zingg, the originator of this technique, later decided it was not a good idea. See here (http://www.dsm.org/archives/96/01/960131.txt/1.html) for details.
Gary Selph, John Snodgrass (http://www.dsm.org/archives/96/01/960131.txt/1.html) and Kevin Fabec all found one of the connecting rods for the clutch mechanism was worn, causing the clutch to engage lower that it should. This may be a fairly common but easily overlooked problem, especially on older cars. A good test is to see if you can pull the clutch pedal up with your foot. If you can, the rod is likely worn.
Gary and John both described the replacement process as being very involved (about six hours work) but Kevin seems to have an easier way. Read all about it here (http://www.dsm.org/archives/1998/12/19981216.txt/12.html).
Another commonly overlooked clutch problem is wear on the clutch fork or pivot ball. The clutch fork could also possibly be bent, especially if heavy-duty clutches have been used. The pivot ball and clutch fork have both been mentioned as 'wear items' and should be considered for replacement if a new clutch is going in anyway.
Of course, the problem may also be related to the clutch master cylinder. Replacing the cylinder and clutch lines can sometimes fix the problem. A few people have used stainless steel lines. It is far from required, but some people have found a steel line improved the clutch pedal feel quite a bit. Submit new information now! (http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/mailfaq.htm)
so i just got a GST... the guy said its and aftermarket clutch and it needs to be blead.. i blead it.. nothing. i then find out you have to shim that little ball that connects to the shift fork... anyone heard of this??
sell your dsm and buy my honduh!
I think he wants to go fast... :)
sell your dsm and buy my honduh!
Evil_SpeedRacer
10-21-2007, 09:06 AM
I think he wants to go fast... :)
:rofl:
fusionsport
10-21-2007, 06:02 PM
What year GST? early DSM Pedal assemblies can also be an issue,
I'll say this, seeing as I've owned both, Boosted Honda > DSM. I love both, but I think I still love Honduhz more.
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