View Full Version : anyone have a CT26 turbo?
daBoosted93
09-16-2007, 10:38 AM
looking for a good condition ct26 turbo off of a supra.
bigacuralvr
09-16-2007, 04:40 PM
try celicatech.net and alltrac.net - sometimes people sell the Supra CT26 as an upgrade for the alltracs. If you want a twin entry - I have a good condition CT26 for $200
Brett
daBoosted93
09-16-2007, 05:00 PM
well, this will be going onto my turbo toyota pickup, and I am not sure if the twin scroll will work or not. do you know if it will?
mr2man07
09-16-2007, 05:09 PM
you will need to have a dual entry manifold. maybe they make it, but i'd stick with a ct26 from supra.
the ct26 twin entrys on the mr2's are pieces of shit. ask me how i know :)
daBoosted93
09-16-2007, 05:36 PM
One guy gave me a site telling mods you can do, and for the turbo upgrade, it said use a supra ct26, so those are single scroll right?
mr2man07
09-16-2007, 10:34 PM
that guy was me lol.
yes the supra ct26 is single entry.
twin entrys on the mr2 are just a fancy term to make it look better than its not.
it spools at like 3200rpm. a stock turbo! a damn 20g spools at 3200-3500 in a mr2.
Did you seriously just say twin scroll is just a fancy term to make turbos look better than they are?
meat-market
09-17-2007, 12:53 AM
FAIL
Evil_SpeedRacer
09-17-2007, 01:25 AM
:rofl: This guy is off to a great start LOLz. Boosted is a good guy, don't go telling him stupid crap if you don't know the answer. The twin scroll design permits separate exhaust gas pulses from each cylinder bank to effectively drive the turbocharger's turbine with the maximum exhaust gas energy possible(for example, a V8 would use this one turbo instead of one for each side). This results in quicker turbocharger response and higher horsepower than an equivalent non-twin scroll design. Here you can see the separated inlets in the turbine:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/Evilspeedracer/turbotwinscroll.jpg
Man that turbo makes me horny.
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 06:51 AM
WOW! You guys read pretty well! ;)
3 FAILS just above me
" Twin entrys are a fancy term to make the mr2's turbo look better"
Otherwise meaning the mr2s turbo is a piece of shit turbo.
i said it spools at like 3200. So wheres the twin scrolls effect on a tiny turbo like the ct-26? i'm sure it helps. Hell, without it, maybe i'll get lucky and it will spool at 4500 without the twin entry.
The twin entry housing on the mr2 is just so damn restrictive. even with a downpipe, i/c and exhaust its still a pretty laggy turbo. But the ct20b on the other hand, it lags too, but actually makes more than 230whp.
anyone here ever drive a mr2 with a ct26? then you'll understand :)
man i love this site already. bunch of little internet trolls around every corner, ones that jump on you for THEIR misunderstanding.
its cool though, i've seen it on every forum when the noob is always getting shit took out on him
Evil_SpeedRacer
09-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Mine wasn't a fail jackass. Next time explain it correctly, I'm not a troll either. Nobody likes being given the wrong information.
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 11:12 AM
yours was slightly helpful, other than the part "he's off to a good start"
o shit, the world stopped because YOU guys misunderstood me.
Also, in your 1st post, you said " boosted's a great guy, dont go telling him shit you dont know"
did i not answer his question? he asked were supras single and had a confusion between the mr2 ct and supra ct.
nobody likes people who post useless shit and flame when they are trying to get help, either.
As it seems you, bigacuralvr and I are the only ones contributing. others just start flaming because im new to this forum, and that they cant read my full post.
which really isnt that hard to interpret if you knew a single thing about or driven an mr2 before.
in this case, single entry ct26 (supra) > twin entry ct26 (mr2)
Don't get me wrong, i'm a huge forum guy, i have contributed $100+ dollars to preludepower.com, wrote 3 writeups and have about 2800 actually informative posts out of 4,000. The others were arguments on car topics (defending domestics as the guys were bashing chevy etc) and just basic general chat.
No need to flame and try to chase away a guy that could one day be helping you, but if people are as stubborn as this, then giving help will be an uneeded thing around here.
Misread what you said, sorry about that - regardless, you officially look like a douche for blowing the fuck up over a simple misunderstanding. Go back to preludepower.
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 11:34 AM
because i find it ignorant for people to do the immature "owned" or "fail" etc over a simple misunderstanding.
any more little comments please pm me, wasted enough space in boosted's topic.
Sorry boosted for helping you :)
The ignorant thing to do was blow up and freak out over a simple misunderstanding, which you even realized it was as soon as your first response to our responses. :thumbdown
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 11:36 AM
Go back to preludepower.
;OwnEd;
highaltitudeimports--> ;NutKick; <---mr2man07
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 11:37 AM
^ and another example as to why i wont refer anyone to highaltitude
Geno, Jesse and Andy from Team Illusions referred me here, little did i know so much immaturity follows for simply helping a person. lol.
i understand man, you guys just need to ease up on noobs. like i said, i could one day provide help nobody else could (highly unlikely lol)
Team who? And go ahead, keep your referrals. HAI is just fine with it's current members. :)
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 11:48 AM
hopefully he meant team illusions, and not cruiz'n illusionz... ever wanna see the biggest pack of ricers that all come together for a jerkfest, be down in the springs at gw satuday.. ;) ull see them...
Luckily, no.. I don't want to see that. haha
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 11:53 AM
Team Illusions out of Scottsbuff, Nebraska. Geno from Video Kingdom and Andy from Midwest Audio
geno has the 97 or so maroon gsx with yellow decals, andy had his blue coupe with nitrous i believe and his girl has an h22 silver hatch.
Jesse was also part i believe (cybergreencivic)
Seriously isnt that hard to read is it? 2 times people have misread what i put.
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 11:54 AM
ahh your missing out, if you drive a car, van, truck, boat... with any forum of mods, your elidgeable (spelling sucks w.e) for entry... :rofl:
He didn't misread, he was assuming you put the wrong name. Either way, who cares?
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 12:08 PM
obviously everyone here does because theyre still here :)
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 12:13 PM
didnt misread it bud... colorado springs has a "crew" if thats how u want to classify them, with illusions in the name... love it when two crews have basically the same name...
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 12:23 PM
^ i understand
i also didnt state where we were from. i didnt make the name, i just joined it to be part of people who enjoy similar interests. I love car shows, but theres shit for shows in nebraska, which is the reason why i joined this board.
thought itd go smooth, but i guess first interaction with a new forum is a bitch.
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 12:25 PM
^ i understand
thought itd go smooth, but i guess first interaction with a new forum is a bitch.
no just the way your acted...... but w.e its cool.. welcome to hai...
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 12:28 PM
just thought it was ignorant that i helped someone and got bashed for it.
but its over. peace
Nick_S
09-17-2007, 12:38 PM
stop crying fag!
co_hatch
09-17-2007, 12:39 PM
;GiVeS: just thought it was ignorant that i helped someone and got bashed for it.
but its over. peace
Deceptakhan
09-17-2007, 01:00 PM
lol.
jdmmr2
09-17-2007, 01:58 PM
I find you ignorant for saying that the mr2 ct26 is shit, especially since some smart ass Toyota engineers built it and tested it before it was ever put on the mr2.
As far as the spooling, mine starts spooling right before 3000rpms so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Here how about you educate yourself on the turbo before trashing it and the people on the form.
Read this link and itll tell you all about the turbo and why its not as bad as you make it to seem.
http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/turbo.htm
bigacuralvr
09-17-2007, 04:25 PM
I think he meant full boost. Either way you look at it, everyone will have their opinions. I don't think the single entry, wether it be a supra or alltrac CT26 is as good as a CT26 or CT20 twin entry. I had mine bored out to about 50 trim - and it is night and day from a CT26 in stock form. Now, the CT26 isn;t a "great" turbo, and yes, it doesn;t spool nearly as fast as other "aftermarket" turbos (garrett, etc) - but the difference is $$. I had my CT26 rebuilt to my specs for under what a used CT20b is worth. That is under $500. Now, if I were to have gone to any other turbo other than a CT series, I would have either used an adaptor, or found an aftermarket manifold. Then, new oil lines, downpipes, inlets/outlets for TMIC/FMIC would be different. Really - I didn;t want to spend $2500 on a new kit.
My .02
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 06:28 PM
I find you ignorant for saying that the mr2 ct26 is shit, especially since some smart ass Toyota engineers built it and tested it before it was ever put on the mr2.
As far as the spooling, mine starts spooling right before 3000rpms so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Here how about you educate yourself on the turbo before trashing it and the people on the form.
Read this link and itll tell you all about the turbo and why its not as bad as you make it to seem.
http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/turbo.htm
wow they built it and tested it before it went on? i thought they did it midway through, ya dumb fuck.
a t25 from a 2g eclipse spools faster and produces more power than a ct26 and its smaller (or equal size). how do you explain that.
go on mr2oc.com and see what they say about ct26's. they have a tendency to blow seals a lot, a lot less than other turbos, but still a significant amount have said they replace seals at 60k. but then again, when you boost 15lbs on a little turbo thats inefficient at 15psi, then thats probably your cause.
if the ct26 was such a great turbo like you make it out to be, why are ct20b's sold the very second they are put up? because they are 1,000x better with exception to the shattering ceramic wheels. they spool a bit faster as they have a lighter wheel and they have been able to make ~320whp compared to the ct26's max of ~240 whp
Acuralvr : i understand what youre saying bout the cheapness of upgrading it compared to the 20b or 20g. ATS racing sells a ct27, basically just has a t3 wheel and a modified housing that produces about 300whp for $700.
Whitecrx, fuck you. Everyones a comedian and a hard ass behind a computer, arent they?
i'm willing to bet half of you could even say this shit to my face in real life, let alone argue with this topic. Because obviously a few of you would feel like dumb shits for even arguing and about something you didnt even fuckin interpret right.
Fuck what you guys say. I'll stay on here regardless of the shit you guys talk. Flame on. Keep acting like fucking pricks, karma's a bitch :guns:
daBoosted93
09-17-2007, 06:39 PM
WOW! I checked this yesterday when it was still one page! lol thanks speedracer, mr2man, and jdmmr2, I got a little more info from this. I think I will be going with the single scroll supra turbo, now i just have to figure out if it will bolt up to my manifold, or if I will have to get a flange and make one. I dont want to go all out just yet, cause there is not really any tuning software out for this truck. SOOOO untill I can afford to get a stand alone system for it, not too much modding will be done, just want to get a good condition on it.
I am also having a problem with it running so rich. I replaced the O2 sensor cause mine was the original one and was stuck at .052 volts at idle. I replaced it and its still running rich, so that was not the problem. It has a type of MAF on it, but has a flapper valve in it.
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 06:42 PM
try cleaning the MAF out. On the mr2, technician and guys on mr2oc.com said taking brake cleaner or they do have a maf cleaner i believe and get that grease and shit out of there.
i dont know if yours will get damaged, dont know how different they were back in the 80's compared to 90's.
could be stuck open a tiny bit by the grease, making it think the throttle is open. does it idle a bit high ?
Evil_SpeedRacer
09-17-2007, 06:47 PM
I know for a fact that you could use Electromotive software for engine management, aren't the others pretty universal as well?
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 06:55 PM
megasquirt ecu's i think are universal.
theres a few other universal standalones just cant think of the names.
shouldnt be too hard to find a good one. But i've seen a few of them from $600 up.
daBoosted93
09-17-2007, 10:07 PM
ya mega squirt is an option, but the ecu's in those trucks are unlike any others, and totally un-moddable like honda ecu's. because of that it is almost impossible to run a piggyback system like Crome or Turboedit etc...
As for the MAF, I think brake clean may fuck up the sensor, but I do need to take it out and see if it is dirty. since my turbo is blown, there is a little oil in the intake tube, so that may be a problem. I also need to check for a stuck injector, clogged fuel return line, etc I am going to buy a wideband here pretty soon, just to have one.
mr2man07
09-17-2007, 10:09 PM
it may, it actually helped mine. when my motor was cold, it had a weird problem where it wouldnt boost, and when it warmed up then it boosted.
cleaned it out and it fixed it, for now atleast.
daBoosted93
09-17-2007, 10:41 PM
well, I suppose I will be trying that out tomorrow!
jdmmr2
09-18-2007, 09:01 AM
All im saying is that the turbo is a good one for what toyota intended it to be, which is your weekend sportscar with no modifications or your daily driver.
As far as making more power out of it, i have read all about it on the forms and how its better to upgrade to a different on. Which is what i did on my car.
co_hatch
09-18-2007, 09:22 AM
wow they built it and tested it before it went on? i thought they did it midway through, ya dumb fuck.
a t25 from a 2g eclipse spools faster and produces more power than a ct26 and its smaller (or equal size). how do you explain that.
go on mr2oc.com and see what they say about ct26's. they have a tendency to blow seals a lot, a lot less than other turbos, but still a significant amount have said they replace seals at 60k. but then again, when you boost 15lbs on a little turbo thats inefficient at 15psi, then thats probably your cause.
if the ct26 was such a great turbo like you make it out to be, why are ct20b's sold the very second they are put up? because they are 1,000x better with exception to the shattering ceramic wheels. they spool a bit faster as they have a lighter wheel and they have been able to make ~320whp compared to the ct26's max of ~240 whp
Acuralvr : i understand what youre saying bout the cheapness of upgrading it compared to the 20b or 20g. ATS racing sells a ct27, basically just has a t3 wheel and a modified housing that produces about 300whp for $700.
Whitecrx, fuck you. Everyones a comedian and a hard ass behind a computer, arent they?
i'm willing to bet half of you could even say this shit to my face in real life, let alone argue with this topic. Because obviously a few of you would feel like dumb shits for even arguing and about something you didnt even fuckin interpret right.
Fuck what you guys say. I'll stay on here regardless of the shit you guys talk. Flame on. Keep acting like fucking pricks, karma's a bitch :guns:
your off to a really good start on HAI... ;NutKick;
mr2man07
09-18-2007, 12:10 PM
jdm mr2. ya i kinda get the idea that it has to be fast to be enjoyable. i read the article, its right it feels pretty good at 8psi, but at 15psi it feels like its just pushing hot air and you can tell its inefficient range.
mr2 is a great car, but if you want it for performance the stock turbo has to go. unless you buy the ct27 or ct20b.
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