*STAB* Elway Honda..!!!

[Bedlam]

So I took my car down there today...routine oil change...figured they could prolly handle it right? Anyway, they got it done and we were in kind of a hurry because Eric was with me and he needed to get to work. So anyway..I go to start my car to pull it out of their bay...and I have a fucking CEL. I was like...errr..umm...they didnt notice that? Nice 18pt inspection kids.

Anyway..so I'm like..hey you just changed my oil and now my CEL is on. They said it wasnt a big deal...I'd be ok to drive it to drop Eric off..yadda yadda...and they would look at it when I got back.

Well, I wasnt really cool with driving it like that..so Eric rode the ghetto shuttle to work and I told them I wanted it looked at right away. So he tells me that there is no way they would have done anything that could have caused it just doing an oil change...and they would check it out...but I'd have to pay for it if it was something else. If you know anything about my luck with car dealers you can imagine I was rather pissed by this time.

Anyway, so they checked it out...pulled the code and said they couldnt find anything wrong with it..just a "random CEL" but if I had anymore problems to bring it back to them. Does this sound like a total load of shit or what? Anyway..its staying off now..but I'm really curious as to what the hell they did to my car.

My advice, stay the hell away from that dealership...period.

-Bedlam

[stu]

Was your gas cap tight? I've heard that that can throw a code if it is lose.

[2002jettavr6]

ta hell with John Elway dealerships... they suck... go somewhere else or do it yourself.

[WinglessTT]

Originally posted by 2002jettavr6
ta hell with John Elway dealerships... they suck... go somewhere else or do it yourself.

No shit, especially for an oil change. It is amazing how many "automotive professionals" can fuck up an oil change. :smashfrea

[Violator]

I dont trust that dealership, I took my car in to get my wheels looked at, I dropped it off, and when I get back I have some asian kid asking me about where I got my motor...I didnt know you had to open the hood to check the rear tires. I've got nothing against the asian kid that asked me, but still. John Elway Honda isnt the best. Plus the old man almost hit a curb when I was in the car. oh well.

[Weston]

Those clowns charged me $9.23 for an exhaust bolt! That's what I get for going to a sellout's dealership. And wtf is a "random CEL"!? Did they tell you what the code was? Somehow I doubt that the CEL just comes on because it feels like it. Mine sure hasn't.

[HONDA GHANDI]

Hey guys remember me? I am a Honda tech that used to work at a dealership until I got so bogged down with bullshit and paperwork I could no longer fix cars. Now i work at a Honda repair shop that can take care of anything you need. Oh, by the way Mike, they probably unplugged something and set the code and are too embarrased to tell you what they did. There is no such thing as a random code.

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE
Hey guys remember me? I am a Honda tech that used to work at a dealership until I got so bogged down with bullshit and paperwork I could no longer fix cars. Now i work at a Honda repair shop that can take care of anything you need. Oh, by the way Mike, they probably unplugged something and set the code and are too embarrased to tell you what they did. There is no such thing as a random code.

thats EXACTLY what I was thinking...he said it was some random air code or something I think..I'll have to look at the ticket and see if he has the exact code on there. Just that he was like.."oh yeah we checked it out..its fine now...get on your way bubye.." and made no mention about me paying for the labor to check it out made it seem kinda fishy...

-Bedlam

[SC-MECHAM-WS6]

random my @$$!

[HONDA GHANDI]

So i will be seeing you in three months or 3000 miles right?;)

[booms]

I went there the other day to look at a car they had listed online. The car was sketchy.. the salesperson and 'showroom' was even more sketchy. There is no way I'd buy/service ANYTHING there.

[jojo]

All dealers are morons in my experience. Domestic and Import. Ask what number a "random CEL" is and to show it to you in manual. It's bad enough when the person touching your car is incompetent but it drives me over the edge when they try to insult my intelligence on top of it.

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE
So i will be seeing you in three months or 3000 miles right?;)

heck I dont even know where you are working these days? heh..I just rolled over 45k miles too..anything exciting in that service that I should know about?

and if you can do the oil change for what honda charges...you'll have my business from now on...I'm tired of those jack@sses.

-Bedlam

[HONDA GHANDI]

Our price is exactly the same as John Elway's ArianNation.
Im Here---------> www.honndastuff.com

[95GSRB18C]

It's alot easier just to change the oil yourself because then you know YOU did something wrong if the CEL comes on where as you dont know if John Elway Honda F****d with it anyways

[SleeperZ]

You want something done right?



DO IT YOURSELF!! I learned that lesson years ago.

[SleeperZ]

Oh, by the way, John Elway and Auto Nation SUCK!

[Bedlam]

hrmm..not sure its "easier" to do the oil change myself...all I have to do is hand them a little plastic card and sign a ticket. My dad is a real car guys car guy...but let me tell ya why even he pays for an oil change.

1) its fast
2) its cheap (for the most part)
3) if they screw something up...they get to fix it.

Besides...I dont want to deal with waste disposal, jacking the car around, going somewhere to buy the filters, the oil..whatever. Transporting that shit nasty dirty oil in my car...umm...no?

I can get it changed most anywhere for under $30 in 15 mins...call me lazy..but I say its money well spent. :)

-Bedlam

[Violator]

We could change the oil in 15 mins. pretty easy if you ask me. I agree with them having to fix whatever goes wrong. You might wanna check with Tobi or Butch about the CEL though, if it comes on again that is.

[HONDA GHANDI]

Pretty soon Butch will be moving out of town and I, I alone will be the Honda Jedi Master MMMhahahahahahahahah! Yes, all your Vtecs are belong to ME hahaahahahah!

Sorry, it had to be done.

[B20civic]

i used to work as a hourly (entry level tech) at fisher honda for 2 years. it got bad there so now i am in the auto body repair industry :D

[Danb13]

Your a moron, they didnt do anything wrong, we get random CEL codes all the time on honda's trust me it happens daily, i hear people bitch about it constantly and its no big deal

[HONDA GHANDI]

WHat is the code for a random cel? Couse Im looking in my book here and I dont see it.

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by Danb13
Your a moron, they didnt do anything wrong, we get random CEL codes all the time on honda's trust me it happens daily, i hear people bitch about it constantly and its no big deal

I'm a moron? Thats pretty harsh...I will be the first to admit I dont know everything there is to know about Hondas..or my car for that matter. However, as I was saying tonight...I owned a 99 Civic EX, and now the 00 Civic Si, drive/drove the HELL out of both of those cars....never ONCE did I have a CEL, not one time in 100k+ miles.

Maybe you're just trolling...are you a honda tech in your spare time too? :)

-Bedlam

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by Danb13
we get random CEL codes all the time on honda's trust me it happens daily

Oh wait...I get it...!!! You are one of the hack techs at Elway Honda? The dealership that seems to be into screwing up more on my car than they fix?

-Bedlam

[HONDA GHANDI]

Seems like this board has too many honda "techs"

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE
Seems like this board has too many honda "techs"

Maybe! I think I'm going to hit some books and learn how to work on Ferraris or something. Not that it would do any good at all...but hey! :)

-Bedlam the soon to be Ferrari "tech"

[HONDA GHANDI]

sweet, Ive always wanted to be an aircraft "tech" so i think Ill get to work on that. You know you can learn everything you need to be a tech right here on the internet.

[Bedlam]

I've heard that car forums are a GREAT place to learn from. Everyone gives good advice, and everyone knows what they are talking about..I think I'm going to start my new career right there!

-Bedlam

[B20civic]

hey, i learned on the job.

[12seccivy]

Originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE
Pretty soon Butch will be moving out of town and I, I alone will be the Honda Jedi Master MMMhahahahahahahahah! Yes, all your Vtecs are belong to ME hahaahahahah!

Sorry, it had to be done.

ahh young jedi, for i am no master..
you have always been the sole jedi master. and my training is from your humble sharing..;wor;
dude i heard from Jeff that you pulled a 13.9 in project SI
that's awesome!!! congrats dude.. i sure think i could use some lessons in tuning.. i cant seem to do it the way you do..
perhaps in time i shall be as good as my master!!

[12seccivy]

Originally posted by Danb13
Your a moron, they didnt do anything wrong, we get random CEL codes all the time on honda's trust me it happens daily, i hear people bitch about it constantly and its no big deal


well now . i'm interested in your opinion on the "RANDOM" cel
i see a lot of cel's every day. and that's the first time i ever heard of it..
so please.. enlighten us "Morons":M:

[HONDA GHANDI]

No, no 13 yet, just a easly `14.1 with some mistakes. I think the car is good for a 13 though.

[12seccivy]

Originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE
No, no 13 yet, just a easly `14.1 with some mistakes. I think the car is good for a 13 though.


ditto Tobi..ditto
you sure know how to get the most out of a car..
:Beer:

[Danb13]

cool believe what you guys want, im not a tech there and theres a reason its called a random cel, but im not gonna share it for my job reasons, there is no random cel's its just a term that gets used

[HONDA GHANDI]

never heard that one, Ive been in the business for 10+ years.

[exciv2000]

What kinda moron posts a signature from Homer simpson that is WRONG?! Listen to the .wav and write it down correctly :p

[newt2]

im not a tech there and theres a reason its called a random cel,

The reason is that they're too lazy to check the code and see what caused it so instead they just clear it and call it random.

Do you know how to check the error codes yourself Bedlam? It's pretty easy. You just take a bent paper clip and short out the service connecter under and to the right of your glove box. Turn on the key and count the flashing of the CEL. Long flashes count for 10 and short flashes count for 1. For example 2 long flashes and one short one is 21.

There are pleny of resources on line to look up the code, and I'll bet that someone here knows what it is if you can't find it anywhere else.

[exciv2000]

Is there an easier way to clear the code than disconnecting the battery? I hate doing that, and my negative battery connector is hating it too.

[HONDA GHANDI]

If you pull the radio/backup fuse in the underhood fusebox it will clear it for you. I think its a 7.5a fuse.

[stu]

Take your car to Elitches and make it ride the MIND ERASER! But that will cost you like $45.

[Danb13]

Originally posted by newt2


The reason is that they're too lazy to check the code and see what caused it so instead they just clear it and call it random.

Do you know how to check the error codes yourself Bedlam? It's pretty easy. You just take a bent paper clip and short out the service connecter under and to the right of your glove box. Turn on the key and count the flashing of the CEL. Long flashes count for 10 and short flashes count for 1. For example 2 long flashes and one short one is 21.

There are pleny of resources on line to look up the code, and I'll bet that someone here knows what it is if you can't find it anywhere else.
the customeris always right and annoying, you bitch about a CEL we tell you its random kill it then send you on your way...

[HONDA GHANDI]

wow, I guess just looking for a fight eh? for one I hope you are not serious, two I hope you never work on my car. If you are a tech which I seriously doubt, your TSI is probably in the toilet.

[BluByU]

So the customer who demands satisfaction is annoying huh? You bet your ass you'd hear from me if I got a CEL after an oil change. How do you get a random CEL from an oil change anyway? Lemme get another thing straight. You clear it and send them on their way? Does it really take that long to read a code to find out if there is an actual problem? You know, something that could inconvenience someone down the road? Fuck dealerships, I'm sticking with Tobi.

[Danb13]

Originally posted by BluByU
So the customer who demands satisfaction is annoying huh? You bet your ass you'd hear from me if I got a CEL after an oil change. How do you get a random CEL from an oil change anyway? Lemme get another thing straight. You clear it and send them on their way? Does it really take that long to read a code to find out if there is an actual problem? You know, something that could inconvenience someone down the road? Fuck dealerships, I'm sticking with Tobi.
cool u talk to my boss and he tells u the same thing i did, or tells you we wolnt shut it off till you pay to get it fixed(ie what ever caused it)

[Bedlam]

Originally posted by Danb13

cool u talk to my boss and he tells u the same thing i did, or tells you we wolnt shut it off till you pay to get it fixed(ie what ever caused it)

What the hell shop do you work in anyway? Sounds like a rather shady place...

-Bedlam

[HONDA GHANDI]

If I told my boss that a customer with a problem was annoying and should just fuck off and die, i would probably get fired. But thats because i work for a place that cares what the cutomer thinks.

[B20civic]

i am gonna still work on my own car. why pay somebody to fuck it up, when I can do it for free :D

[HONDA GHANDI]

Originally posted by B20riceboyprimercivic
i am gonna still work on my own car. why pay somebody to fuck it up, when I can do it for free :D


Good point. :rofl: