Anyone want port polish work done?

[Kinematics]

I do it on the side as a hobby. If you are interested contact me and we can work out something for your p/p needs.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c195/Kinematics/portpolish/IM000433.jpg

Honduh throttle body I did.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c195/Kinematics/portpolish/DSCF0002.jpg

DSM O2 housing.


I will try to get more pictures up sometime. I can do your throttle body for $60. Iron pieces will cost a little more as they take more time, but contact me to see if we can't work something out. ;) I can do rotor housings, downpipes, headers, intake manifolds, intercooler elbows (WRX), and whatever else you feel like having done. I'll port your muffler tips if you pay me enough. :D

[Kinematics]

No one huh? Ricers!

[eg_project]

me = poor, otherwise I would, but I would go all out to someone with a flowbench so tuning isn't such a bitch.

[Slow96GSR]

I do em all myself or have my head guy do it. Do you cc the head, flow test it, do at least or more than a 3 angle grind on the valves and valve seats, and do you do the port and polish on both the intake and exhaust?

[Kinematics]

I don't do heads. Nice try on backing me into a corner though.

[Terry]

attack!

[riceburner700]

it looks like he just does small stuff

[M@]

That doesn't look very polished.

[riceburner700]

cause its not^^

[M@]

Obviously.. but if he's trying to get business for port and polishing, I'd think he'd show his polishing work as well.

[HONDA GHANDI]

You dont want a polished finish on the intake side of anything anyway. It doesnt promote fuel atomization as well as a rougher surface does. On the exhaust side you do want a polished finish to reflect the heat into the port instead of into the surface.

[M@]

Hmm.. good to know.

[Terry]

He has spoken

[Kinematics]

The o2 housing doesn't look pretty on the inside, but it is glass smooth and ported out and that is all that matters. I have done lots of pieces, and like Toby said you don't want a 100% polish on intake pieces so you get proper air atomization.

Anyway, no one seems to be interested so I'll stick with codrift and AWDpirates for my port/polishing customers. M@ ruins another thread, thanks ricer.

[Ferret]

Who needs port polishing anyway?

That's not on NFS Underground!!!

[M@]

Anyway, no one seems to be interested so I'll stick with codrift and AWDpirates for my port/polishing customers. M@ ruins another thread, thanks ricer.
I don't ruin anything, jackass.

P.S. Pretty sure my "ricer" put down plenty more power than your shitbox on low boost. ;NutKick;

[Ferret]

I'd say going into a thread and trying to slam someone's work without even knowing what you're saying is "ruining" a thread :drink:

[M@]

I wasn't slamming his work, I was questioning it. If I was slamming his work, I would have said, "Hey, that looks like shit". Whereas, I said it didn't look polished.

[Kinematics]

Do you want port polish work done by me?

If not, please GTFO. Thank you. Also, I don't care how much power your car made, it's still wrong wheel drive and you have the mentality of a 3rd grader. Not to mention you probably couldn't go around a corner fast even if you were ziptied to Tsuchiya's nutsack.

[2genCRX]

no wonder no one likes you on this board. talking shit about HAI on other boards, then trying to sell us stuff is so fucking bitch status.
edit:http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/t48321-this-saturday-at-mac-1pm-looking-to-break-state-record.html
even codrift thinks your a weiner

[Dave_L]

no wonder no one likes you on this board. talking shit about HAI on other boards, then trying to sell us stuff is so fucking bitch status.

:rofl:

[Weston-work]

I'd say going into a thread and trying to slam someone's work without even knowing what you're saying is "ruining" a thread :drink:

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. Also, I want to see Kinematics vs M@ on a road course... that would be interesting. :D

[Kinematics]

Oh well, douchebags like M@ on HAI don't like me. I'd better go kill myself.

[2genCRX]

haha your right, you should.

[Dave_L]

How are you gonna kill yourself?

[Kinematics]

no wonder no one likes you on this board. talking shit about HAI on other boards, then trying to sell us stuff is so fucking bitch status.
edit:http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/t48321-this-saturday-at-mac-1pm-looking-to-break-state-record.html
even codrift thinks your a weiner

"your" grammar is pretty weiner

[HONDA GHANDI]

Oh well, ricers on HAI don't like me. I'd better go kill myself.

I'm sure the non ricers will take offence to that.

[doogie06]

RICER 4 LYFE SON!

[Dave_L]

JIHAD!!!

[Kinematics]

I'm sure the non ricers will take offence to that.


I'm glad someone out there doesn't want me to kill myself. :D

[Weston-work]

"your" grammar is pretty weiner

Isn't it spelled "wiener"? :D

http://home.ricochet.com/russjohnson/images/klink.jpg

:D

[Weston-work]

I'm sure the non ricers will take offence to that.

There aren't any non-ricers on this site. :D

[saabracr]

Isn't it spelled "wiener"? :D

http://home.ricochet.com/russjohnson/images/klink.jpg

:D

I think, when referring to a man's beast, its spelled "weener."

[HONDA GHANDI]

There aren't any non-ricers on this site. :D

Hmm, you may have a point. Time for another poll.

[Kinematics]

So, back on topic. Would anyone like port polish work done? I have plenty of people who can vouch for the quality and effectiveness of my work.

Matter of fact, if anyone from HAI gets work from me, I'll give them a discount*.

*M@ is disqualified from this offer for douchebaggery.

[M@]

Oh... how tragic... I don't get your discounted crappy labor that I could do myself... *tear*.

You're a fucking tool. You want to race on a roadcoarse? Hmmm, if I'd have built my car for turning, I would have been happy to spank that turdbox of yours. How about you call out John Force, while you're at it? If you ever wanna race in a straight line, from a dig, roll, doesn't matter.. I'd be happy to let you see my taillights. Hell, I'll even be happy to beat you on all-season tires.

Kinematics, you sir, are a tool. I believe you have a day full of suicide to be preparing for, yes? Get to gettin'. Ta-ta, fuckwad.

[Conrad]

The o2 housing doesn't look pretty on the inside, but it is glass smooth and ported out and that is all that matters. I have done lots of pieces, and like Toby said you don't want a 100% polish on intake pieces so you get proper air atomization.

Anyway, no one seems to be interested so I'll stick with codrift and AWDpirates for my port/polishing customers. M@ ruins another thread, thanks ricer.

shouldnt that be fuel??

damn ricers....

I believe that letting the surface stay rough promotes little eddies of air that promote the fuel to stay in the air vs sticking to the sides..

[Slow96GSR]

I'm sure the non ricers will take offence to that.
I'm glad someone out there doesn't want me to kill myself. :D

Tobi never said he didn't want you to kill yourself. I really was asking about your full services, like what all you did, not just your porting and you never did answer any of my questions. It does however look like no one here want's or needs your services. Had I been a mod I would have moved this to the FOR SALE section where it should be. Have a good day.

*Matt if you want we can get that rust bucket of yours ready for a road course. Shocks will cost a lot but Penske's always do. That will be the most expensive part, and then the labor of setting stuff up and doing corner weights. I really don't want to bring scale pads to you.

Oh :rofl: at the Hogan's Heros Grammar Nazi pic!

[M@]

I have suspension in the plans. No worries on the scale pads, I have access to about 5 different sets (I grew up at CNS, remember? ;)).

[Slow96GSR]

...(I grew up at CNS, remember? ;)).

No not really!

[Weston]

I have suspension in the plans. No worries on the scale pads, I have access to about 5 different sets (I grew up at CNS, remember? ;)).

Good... so you'll be racing Kinematics on a road course then, right? :D

[M@]

When I have my car setup for turning, I'd be happy to.

[Weston]

Here you go... http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/t48672-m-vs-kinematics.html

[guessinthe2000]

Obviously.. but if he's trying to get business for port and polishing, I'd think he'd show his polishing work as well.

true dat!

[Ferret]

Good... so you'll be racing Kinematics on a road course then, right? :D

I'd pay to see that.

[Kinematics]

I don't polish pieces like make them look chrome. I can always just 'port' out a piece for you and leave it nice and super rough on the inside. Or I can properly 'polish' it out so it is the correct texture on the inside.

As for 'air' atomization, there isn't much gasoline flowing through your throttle body or your upper intake manifold, now is there? :)

Anyway, people interested have PM'd me, so thank you for your time.

[Slow96GSR]

But the idea is on the intake side to cause the air to kind of be "rough" so it mixes better with the fuel. If the surface is too smooth it won't make the air and fuel mixture right. Any good PnP machinist would know that.

[Kinematics]

Yes, which is why I don't make my intake pieces 100% smooth like exhaust pieces. If I left my pieces after I was done with a grinding stone and a single sanding band, it would be terrible.

[Slow96GSR]

Ok well you have to elaborate more. Especially over the internet when a potential customer can't see the work you do. You have to be that way with us ricers, you know?!

[Kinematics]

www.google.com

Obviously the ones interested who PM'd me seemed pleased with my work and don't need an elementary explanation. If you want to know the benefits of port polish work, see the above link. If you want to know how to do port polishing yourself so you don't have to deal with assholes like me, see the above link.

I don't really need to sit here and be ganged up on by everyone. You don't like my work? Go pay twice as much for it elsewhere.

[Slow96GSR]

I get mine free, we have a shop. If anyone wants my advice, I doubt it but worth a try, always go to a well known shop. If a person screws something up good luck getting them to pay to fix it. But if a shop screws up, they have insurance or more money to pay for it and fix it. A person can get away with saying sorry and taking what little you pay and turning you away. Also you don't know the quality of the work like you would with a well known shop. We don't charge that much, a basic PnP is about $500 and we go up to major PnP's up to and beyond $2500. We flow test and CC all heads before, during, and after the work is done so you get the best, and we document it for you so you can see yourself. If you don't have a flow bench how do you know for sure you did the best work? I'm not saying you suck at it, just how do you know it's correct and actually going to give power to the car the head is going on.

[Kinematics]

Again, I don't do heads, I still to what I know how to do.

Anyways, I am an honest person and if I fucked something up I would replace it. I don't have any way to prove that, other than my word. If you don't like it, then I am sorry.

[M@]

So... pics of your polishing jobs?

[M@]

P.S. Drama between Kinematics and I has been resolved.

[Kinematics]

I don't polish pieces like make them look chrome. I can always just 'port' out a piece for you and leave it nice and super rough on the inside. Or I can properly 'polish' it out afterward so it is the correct texture on the inside for best airflow.

Quoted.

[M@]

Interesting... so what all do you PNP exactly?

[Kinematics]

I can do rotor housings, downpipes, headers, intake manifolds, intercooler elbows, o2 housings, turbo housings, and other similiar pieces.

[erick garcia]

do u pnp throttle bodies

[Kinematics]

Yes, look on the first page, there is a picture of a Honda TB I have done.

[erick garcia]

how much do u charge to pnp a honda throttle body? does this help wit any performance wat so ever

[Kinematics]

Pricing is on the first page. This will improve your throttle response and give you some additional horsepower. If you are boosted, will improve your spool up and provide more horsepower over a naturally aspirated vehicle. It all depends on what you have for modifications already.

[ryanman]

It won't do jack shit, your tiny ass TB blade will still be the same size as it was before he hogged out the INLET of the TB, waste of money.

[Zach]

It won't do jack shit, your tiny ass TB blade will still be the same size as it was before he hogged out the INLET of the TB, waste of money.
werd. if you want increased performance from a throttle body, get a bigger one.

[Kinematics]

It won't do jack shit, your tiny ass TB blade will still be the same size as it was before he hogged out the INLET of the TB, waste of money.


You're stupid and shouldn't talk unless you know what you are talking about. Enlarging and smoothing out the inside and enlarging the inlet and sharpening the inlet lip decreases turbulence and allows air (and more of it) to breeze through the throttle body faster, increasing horsepower and throttle response. It will also decrease spool up time if you are turbocharged.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=729711
Take a look through this thread to see some results impressions from this work being done. Also feel free to talk to the people I have done this for so they can tell you the gains they have felt as a result of this modification. Ferret on this forum is just one of them, in fact.

If it did nothing, then why the fuck is it such a huge mod on many motors, like LT1/LS1 in particular? They can make 15-20whp on a mod such as this.

[Ferret]

werd. if you want increased performance from a throttle body, get a bigger one.

Then get ported and knife-edged.

Tom did this to my s13 when I had it, and it makes a very noticable difference on throttle control. It won't make you shit yourself, but I would call it a lot more "crisp" feeling, and if you're serious about any of this performance crap I'd suggest doing it. It's definitely worth more than what he charges for the work. If not, go get some Takata seatbelts and call it a day.

[Zach]

LS1/LT1's are 5.7 liters, and hella ineffecient from the factory, i can see maybe a couple more CFM making a big difference there. on a small honda motor, and most other small displacement engines, you wont see hardly any gain with just a TB port & polish.

plus your link is BS, you said that a ported throttle body would give you better spool, response(i can maybe see that) and more HP. that guy pnp'd everything on his car, exhaust manifolds, intercooler elbows, and such. he might see some gain, but no where in there does he have dyno sheets to prove anything.
Also feel free to talk to the people I have done this for so they can tell you the gains they have felt as a result of this modification. Ferret on this forum is just one of them, in fact.

have any of your customers dyno'd their vehicles before and after in order to test your service? having someon "feel" something is huge BS. the mind could easily fabricate any "difference" someone may "feel". hell my car "felt" faster when i took out my 10lb back seats, was it? i doubt it.

[Zach]

Then get ported and knife-edged.

Tom did this to my s13 when I had it, and it makes a very noticable difference on throttle control. It won't make you shit yourself, but I would call it a lot more "crisp" feeling, and if you're serious about any of this performance crap I'd suggest doing it. It's definitely worth more than what he charges for the work. If not, go get some Takata seatbelts and call it a day.

i can see it giving better throttle response, but i dont want people to believe that porting your throttle body is going to give you 20hp.

[Kinematics]

I don't have dyno sheets, because you're the first person to ever ask for them. The ones that know realize the benefits of this mod, and the dumbshits say it doesn't do anything and they can continue to believe that, because I don't need their business, and I would rather not help someone out that knows so little about engine performance to deny that port polish work actually does anything. No, on a Honda you will not get 20hp, but in the instance of the LS1/LT1 I am showing the benefits that are possible with just something this simple. You will gain performance on your Honda with this, whether you are stock or you heavily modified. Your actual power gains may be minimal, or huge, but that is not my purpose of doing these. I, and most people I do this mod for, have it done for the benefit of increased throttle response and quicker spool up. The extra power as a result is just a side benefit.

You can see that there are enough people who do this mod, not just to Hondas, but to EVERY type of car out there to say that it does make a difference. That in alone speaks for itself just as well as a dyno sheet.

Anyway, if you don't want any of my work done to your engine, please see your way out of my thread. :)

[Zach]

I don't have dyno sheets, because you're the first person to ever ask for them. The ones that know realize the benefits of this mod, and the dumbshits say it doesn't do anything and they can continue to believe that, because I don't need their business, and I would rather not help someone out that knows so little about engine performance to deny that port polish work actually does anything. No, on a Honda you will not get 20hp, but in the instance of the LS1/LT1 I am showing the benefits that are possible with just something this simple. You will gain performance on your Honda with this, whether you are stock or you heavily modified. Your actual power gains may be minimal, but that is not my purpose of doing these. I, and most people I do this mod for, have it done for the benefit of increased throttle response and quicker spool up. The extra power as a result is just a side benefit.

You can see that there are enough people who do this mod, not just to Hondas, but to EVERY type of car out there to say that it does make a difference. That in alone speaks for itself just as well as a dyno sheet.

Anyway, if you don't want any of my work done to your engine, please see your way out of my thread. :)

i think you may have misunderstood me. i just wanted to warn people that pnp work isnt a magical performance enhancer. it can be extremely effective, especially when done correctly (not saying you dont do it correctly), and i have seen the results of porting on a flow bench. however one shouldnt expect a huge difference when doing minor work on external components.

i would however, like to see more pictures of your work.

[Kinematics]

I am about to do a whole lot of intake and exhaust pieces for some WRXs coming up shortly, so I will post some pictures when they are done.

I may pull off the throttle body on my new s14 tommorow and do it for the hell of it, if I do I will post pictures of it as well.

[Ferret]

i think you may have misunderstood me. i just wanted to warn people that pnp work isnt a magical performance enhancer.

I would hope most people here know that.

[Zach]

I would hope most people here know that.
i would hope so also, however nothing on this site suprises me anymore.

[Kinematics]

I got to open it up a bit from like 40-90mph today, and i really noticed a difference.. so no, thank YOU for your business!

From a Subaru owner who's WRX throttle body I did earlier this weekend. It doesn't say much in the way of technicalities, but it is just another vouch for my work and the gains that have been seen. Pictures soon to follow.

For those on awdpirates, this is Orange Roughy.

[M@]

P.S. Kine - IDB?

[Slow96GSR]

IDB = In da Butt? That's not nice M@. Here he is trying to make a buck off us ricers and all we do is give him shit and no to very little business. I'll pass my poor customers your way. But watch out for M@, he might steal them!

[M@]

I might steal your anal penetration!

[Kinematics]

IDB?

[Weston]

IDB?

He's asking you for gay sex. He tends to use the Internet to express his fantasies, only to later try to cover it up by saying something along the lines of, "It's the Internet... I was just kidding... haha. You believe me, right?" :rolleyes:

[M@]

No, I really am gay. I love weiner.

[Weston]

No, I really am gay. I love weiner.

We know. This isn't news.

[Ferret]

gay

[Kinematics]

Onto the review:

He came to me, and even helped me put all the parts back on after the work was completed. He took his time with things and didn't seem rushed in the slightest. Took about an hour and a half. Work was top notch, I was very happy with the way things turned out.

No check engine light, no other problems to report.

Increased throttle response, seems to spool a bit smoother, and the ass dyno shows a noticable gain. I've only ripped into it twice since the install, (once with him in the car) cause I'm generally very laid back with my driving style, But as far as a good way to spend under $100 for a mod, I'd say this is it.

Bang for buck is awesome.

Thanks man!


The full review from the same person above. You can read it yourself on AWDPirates at: http://www.awdpirates.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9245