Do You Need A Job

[J_Smuggler]

Im looking for people that are interested in a health and wellness company doing some network marketing send me your e-mail for more information

[lswhitecivic]

sniff sniff... Pyramid Scheme?

[J_Smuggler]

sniff sniff... Pyramid Scheme?

do you know what a pyramid scheme is please explain

[Nightfall]

do you know what a pyramid scheme is please explain

Is that the beat around the bush way of saying yes? ;) At least in some form or another.

[J_Smuggler]

Is that the beat around the bush way of saying yes? ;) At least in some form or another.

theres a few ways to explain this: im not going to get all detailed

any job you have your working in is a pyramid
say your at the bottom pushing paper you have a boss right your boss has a boss. your at the bottom working your ass off so you and your bosses can get paid.

where i work we work as a team and help each other out
this isn't one of those get rich in 30 days scheme (pyraimid) and make $50k in your first month.

If you guys wanna check it out go to www.teamcani.net or www.visalus.com

why judge and talk shit about what i do. i make a good living i just bought me a new car its not the nicest car in the world but its mine the bank doesnt own it. what this company can do for you is change your lifes

[Seved]

I still smell bullshit

[ghettodsm]

lol give the guy a chance. I might be interested, send me a pm on how you go about selling this product. What leads(if any) do you have, pay structure, etc. Just some basic questoins, to see if this is something I would consider doing. Thank you,
Kevin.

[crxrocks]

Looks like Amway style bs. Note the number of pictures show people holding checks and "baller" cars. I bet that they tell you that it isn't all about the money, right? It is more about being happy.

[J_Smuggler]

thats cool if you think its bullshit. i was just seeing if anybody was interested in making some extra cash. i didnt ask what you thought about it. i have alot people think that its bullshit. have fun at your deadend job struggling through life. when u get some money let me know i might cut you guys a good deal on some hand-me-downs

[Nightfall]

have fun at your deadend job struggling through life. when u get some money let me know i might cut you guys a good deal on some hand-me-downs

:rofl: !!!

[lswhitecivic]

You don't have to get your panties in a twist because we can all see what type of business it is. How does Multi Level Marketing sound instead of pyramid scheme? If you can make money in the company good for you. Most people don't have the personality type needed to excel in that type of environment.

Also I find it funny that when you ask someone if they are part of an MLM they say no, and have some other word or phrase for it but when they define it it's the exact same thing.

[smithz]

You don't have to get your panties in a twist because we can all see what type of business it is. How does Multi Level Marketing sound instead of pyramid scheme? If you can make money in the company good for you. Most people don't have the personality type needed to excel in that type of environment.

Also I find it funny that when you ask someone if they are part of an MLM they say no, and have some other word or phrase for it but when they define it it's the exact same thing.

:werd:

You know how you know when you work for a MLM company? When you deny that you do when asked.

And you are completely right about personality types, some people can do it. My brother has worked up to making 50-60Kish over about 4-5 years of working for Primerica. But he made 0 at first and had to bust his ass for years before he saw anything come from it. Now he's setup to make a pretty decent living from it.

But I could never have done what he did.

[Ashton]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=visalus+scam

[preludeshfan]

just as a general observation and being a business owner myself let me give you a little advice.

any "business" that you have to talk to your friends and convince them to pay a fee to be a member and as a result repeat the same to their friends is a pyrmid scheme. they never work or if you get lucky enough to be successfull at it will take you 5 times as long to get there verses starting a legitimate business.
also there is no business you can start part time trust me

and as for primerica was mentioned is the biggest scam i have yet heard of, not only is it a MLM its also a down right shame to brainwash people into turining in there cash value life insurance and buy term insurance that costs 2 times that the industry standard is just so you can swallow up all of peoples spare income and connvince them they should invest it in your company.
they are also in violation with state insurance regulations and in violation of rules by the SEC for forcasting.
forcasting is a term used to describe when a company makes a claim of a return on an investment for the purposes of making a sale.
ive seen the presentation they would have you believe that you can make 12% profits by buying their mutual funds.
tell your brother if he wants to stay employed and be a real life insurance agent and provide financial services he should start his own agency. why on earth anyone would want to waste their time building a client base that promerica will keep and sign a non compete agreement is beyond me.

also ask him to show you his 1099 statements i doubt seriously he makes 40-50 k a year and if it took him 4 years to get there he is definitly in the wrong business.
ive been selling insurance for 3 years and i already make 5 times that amount.

[Terry]

I remember i went to one of their seminars..biggest waste of 45 minutes ever.

[smithz]

tell your brother if he wants to stay employed and be a real life insurance agent and provide financial services he should start his own agency. why on earth anyone would want to waste their time building a client base that promerica will keep and sign a non compete agreement is beyond me.

also ask him to show you his 1099 statements i doubt seriously he makes 40-50 k a year and if it took him 4 years to get there he is definitly in the wrong business.
ive been selling insurance for 3 years and i already make 5 times that amount.

Very happy for you. It's his business what he does, not mine and not yours. He thinks he's actually helping people and making money at it. Whether or not he actually is helping people, well I don't really fucking care to tell you the truth. But he wouldn't be lying about what he's making to his family, there would be no point to that, at least not in my family. He's happy doing what he's doing, that's all I really give a shit about. The only reason I mentioned it was because he seems to be getting somewhere with it, after a LONG amount of time. The other reason I mentioned it was to point out that some people have the personality which can make that work for themselves. I know I wouldn't last 10 fucking seconds before I told them all to fuck off. Of course I would do the same thing if I had to sell fucking insurance at all, pyramid or not.

[ghettodsm]

[QUOTE=preludeshfan;598391
ive been selling insurance for 3 years and i already make 5 times that amount.[/QUOTE

Where at? I just had an interview with Aflac yesterday. Seemed kinda iffy though, 300 up front, for all your fee's to be licensed(and training). What really had me doubting the job though, the way you go about your clientele, basically a program that sorts business by what they do. Do you do all the leg work with your company? WTF is this how most insurance agents work? If so thats a load of crap haha! Looks like insurance sales isnt for me. Oh btw this MLM Job is a total scam. I hope this MLM company goes under real quick!

[preludeshfan]

[QUOTE=preludeshfan;598391
ive been selling insurance for 3 years and i already make 5 times that amount.[/QUOTE

Where at? I just had an interview with Aflac yesterday. Seemed kinda iffy though, 300 up front, for all your fee's to be licensed(and training). What really had me doubting the job though, the way you go about your clientele, basically a program that sorts business by what they do. Do you do all the leg work with your company? WTF is this how most insurance agents work? If so thats a load of crap haha! Looks like insurance sales isnt for me. Oh btw this MLM Job is a total scam. I hope this MLM company goes under real quick!

You’re going to have to spend some money to get licensed to sell any type of insurance 300 sounds about right by the time you buy all the materials go to the class and take the test (a process that takes about 1-2 weeks depending on your time schedule)
After that you’re ready to sell for whoever you like. But ill be perfectly honest with you. This job isn’t for everyone, sure the rewards are beyond belief but if I could express to you how hard I have worked to get where I am at now multiply what you’re thinking by a factor of 2 to get you close!

Ive personally seen 8 people in 3 years who have tried and failed. Several of which filed bankruptcy afterwards. I know that paints an ugly picture but from experience I am convinced less than 30% of the population have the work ethic, determination and know how to be a successful business person and be a success at being self employed. Add to that the drive that it takes to build a business understanding that just because you’re licensed and have an office with a phone that will ring doesn’t mean anyone will call you. You have to hit the pavement or learn how to market yourself to be a success. Keep in mind I probably make about 20 bucks a month for each policy I write and considering when you start out you would be fortunate to write more than 10 policies on average per month. You can do the math for yourself. Basically you have to learn to live without making any money and working your ass off to build up some business to pay your bills and then yourself.

If you hook up with a company like I did you can get advancement each month to help you afford your expenses. I know of no other company except the one I sell for that won’t make you PAY BACK everything you were advanced if you quit. My company lets you keep the money and walk away. for that reason and for the fact we have the best products in the business that sell themselves it would be a fair statement to say that if you can't make it with my company you wouldn’t last a week somewhere else.

Also you have to fully understand what you do as an agent. You don’t just sell policies you have to believe in your product and trust that what you’re selling is of great benefit to your customers. Otherwise you will generally suck at sales and will realize real fast you weren’t cut out to be a sales person.
Commission based jobs can be awesome or suck depending on how hard you work. For me I would not even roll out of bed for any hourly job. as a matter of fact just last week I talked to an elderly gentleman who wishes to roll 500K worth of 401K and IRA's into our new Equity index annuity. My sales commission on that sale alone will bring me $40,000 in commissions.. Yes you read that right 40K more than average household income on 1 sale!
The key is no guy off the street wet behind the ears in insurance sales could hope to talk someone who spent a lifetime saving money for retirement into parting with their life savings if I wasn’t trustworthy, knowledgeable and confident in the products I sell.

In short this is a tough business if your not ready to commit yourself to it fully and for more than about 50-60 hours a week for the first several years you will fail and hate it.

[ghettodsm]

wow sounds like quite a tough business. I'm still interested though. I know that I have more drive than most. I was able to sell at least 4-5 cars monthly,when only 1 other sales person was selling 1-2 cars. I consider myself very determined, self motivated and willing to do almost anything to reach my goals(to be rich lol). Is your company hiring at the moment? I don't have any prior Insurance Sales Experience, quite a bit of sales and customer service though. If you would like you can call me on my cell, anytime after 11am tomorrow or friday. Thanks,
Kevin. 303 641 6541