New ION Redline Commercial!!!

[BOOSTHARD]

http://automobiles.honda.com/assets/images/2006/civic_si/customize/base_car/SI_si_34FRONT.jpg

Civic SI + After market turbo....$25,000 +

http://www.acura.com/assets/acura/carshot/rsx/2006/carshot_rsxs_2006_rsxalabastersilvermetallic_NH-700M.jpg

RSX +After market turbo....$26,000 +





Destroying them both with a Saturn ION Redline Stage 2 for less than $23,000

Priceless


http://www.saturn.com/images/gmbp/22008/vehicle/2007/med/220_7510_41U.gif

Honda....Its what's for dinner...........:hungry:

[Conrad]

ummmmm hmmmm no comment....

[Bedlam]

Too bad you can save yourself some money and STILL have a car thats a piece of shit? Lets talk about what the resale value of those cars will be like in 6 years?

[Deceptakhan]

Civic SI + After market turbo....$25,000 +

RSX +After market turbo....$26,000 +

Destroying them both with a Saturn ION Redline Stage 2 for less than $23,000

Priceless

Honda....Its what's for dinner...........:hungry:

Ummm, I wouldn't go that far. I'll say that an IonRedline is alot of fun for the money, but theres more to it than just going in a straight line. One of the reasons why Honda is selling Si's as fast as they can make the.

Btw, you still want to meet up?

[floored4door]

I'd pic a bone stock SI over a redline anyday of the week.

[M@]

Honda....Its what's for dinner...........:hungry:
Race me for money. I have way less than $23k in my car.. it's just a Honda.

p.s. You're an idiot. No.. really.

[BOOSTHARD]

i think its hallarious how worked up you honda guys get over a joke, laugh at it its acctualy kinda funny... seriously you guys have a short man complex.

[BOOSTHARD]

Ummm, I wouldn't go that far. I'll say that an IonRedline is alot of fun for the money, but theres more to it than just going in a straight line. One of the reasons why Honda is selling Si's as fast as they can make the.

Btw, you still want to meet up?


Me and Conrad already had this discussion, the redline handles better, accellerates faster and as far as the other guys coment about the reslae value... you ricers always have to resort to some lame ass comment like that, who cares what it will be worth, the car is a better machine and will hand most any stock or modded honda its ass... ive already proved this, just ask conrad about that :P

We can meet up soon, my wedding is sunday so im not gonna be open at all untill prolly next weekend or so :)

[M@]

I'm not worked up at all.. but if you think you could tear up a Honda, I'm simply saying bring it.

[Deceptakhan]

Word. At first I thought you were calling me a ricer! I read car the good new car mags alot, and from what I read the suspension and handling were tuned at the Ring, so that says alot. All the owners of redlines are most happy with their cars, so right on.

Congrats on getting married! :)

[BOOSTHARD]

I'm not worked up at all.. but if you think you could tear up a Honda, I'm simply saying bring it.

Werent you and Conrad supposed to race?

And im not saying the LSJ is god and can own any honda out there, im just saying that stock for stock or even Modded-VS-Modded the IRL will come out on top, before Conrad sprayed i put 5 cars on him in the 1/4 mile, im stock, he has bolt on's... see what i am saying?

like the illistration says, a STAGE 2 REDLINE (I.E. 250-260whp) and it wasnt aimed at all the honda owners, just mainly the RSX-S and 06 SI kids, i dont know why but out of all of the honda community the drivers of those cars like to talk down the ION Redline and Cobalt SS/SC the most... untill one hands them thier ass that is (No shit talking intended).

you dont know how many RSX-S owners i have ran into talking mad shit about how they will smoke our cars and they have 200hp N/A while we have that much F/I, funny thing is they usualy dont do thier research to see that we make over 200HP at the wheels because our cars are seriously underrated.

So... go back and read the ad again, you might find it quite humorus after knowing the history behind it now :)

[floored4door]

I'd pic a bone stock SI over a redline anyday of the week.


I'm not worked up... I'm just stating the facts.

[BOOSTHARD]

Word. At first I thought you were calling me a ricer! I read car the good new car mags alot, and from what I read the suspension and handling were tuned at the Ring, so that says alot. All the owners of redlines are most happy with their cars, so right on.

Congrats on getting married! :)


Yeah, the car is acctualy german enginered (From what i have been told) and i havent met an unhappy RL owner yet :)

Thank you, i am very excited about this sunday :)

[BOOSTHARD]

I'm not worked up... I'm just stating the facts.

that was mainly aimed at M@, everyone has thier opinions and personal likes and dislikes, if you would rather have a car thats overpriced, looks like a space ship, and is better suited for a daily driver... then i respect the fact that you like your car :P

[M@]

You're comparing a factory N/A car (at 5280 ft elevation) vs. a factory superchaged car. Let's not compare apples to oranges here, guy.

As for me racing Conrad, I'm supposed to race him sometime on his bike.. yes.

[BOOSTHARD]

You're comparing a factory N/A car (at 5280 ft elevation) vs. a factory superchaged car. Let's not compare apples to oranges here, guy.

As for me racing Conrad, I'm supposed to race him sometime on his bike.. yes.

S/C'd cars lose just about the same to Altitude as N/A cars due to the fact that unless the S/C is a centrifigal unit, it does not compress the air being forced into the engine, it only forces more air into the motor, an S/C is also a parasitic power adder, it needs engine power to make power, therefore if the engine doesnt produce the same power as it would at sea level, the only area the supercharger helps in is getting more oxygen into the engine...

If i remember correctly the S/C'd cars dont lose AS much as the N/A cars but they lose more than the turbo cars.

civic-VS-Bike... thats a quick ass civic :)

[Conrad]

Me and Conrad already had this discussion, the redline handles better, accellerates faster and as far as the other guys coment about the reslae value... you ricers always have to resort to some lame ass comment like that, who cares what it will be worth, the car is a better machine and will hand most any stock or modded honda its ass... ive already proved this, just ask conrad about that :P

We can meet up soon, my wedding is sunday so im not gonna be open at all untill prolly next weekend or so :)


WOAH!!!! We both new your car was faster off the line.... I will give you that all day long. But when we raced you let off at like 75-80 and you had maybe a whole car length between us and i was pulling hard catching up. With the measely 40hp i am making more on Nawz you stood no chance. So if you compare cars making around the even hp mark I am going to be faster due to LSD and gearing. Either way your car is fast. And the handling thing.... The next time you go on a drive with me, weston and duane... we will see your handling.

Either way.. I understand the animosity that you are getting here. This is an import board. But even putting the looks aside. Mine comes with recaros also, and I would say mine are a tad more comfy, that MO of course. Mine can come with navi, not a redline option. My creature comforts are a little better. And my interior is way more advanced in styling IMO

Either way you have a nice car. If I went to a redline board with my SI I would probably get the same response you do here.

[Bedlam]

i think its hallarious how worked up you honda guys get over a joke, laugh at it its acctualy kinda funny... seriously you guys have a short man complex.

Maybe because its really not funny?

[Brian]

not to add fuel to the fire here,but supercharged cars do lose about as much power as an N/A car at elevation.

[BOOSTHARD]

WOAH!!!! We both new your car was faster off the line.... I will give you that all day long. But when we raced you let off at like 75-80 and you had maybe a whole car length between us and i was pulling hard catching up. With the measely 40hp i am making more on Nawz you stood no chance. So if you compare cars making around the even hp mark I am going to be faster due to LSD and gearing. Either way your car is fast. And the handling thing.... The next time you go on a drive with me, weston and duane... we will see your handling.

Either way.. I understand the animosity that you are getting here. This is an import board. But even putting the looks aside. Mine comes with recaros also, and I would say mine are a tad more comfy, that MO of course. Mine can come with navi, not a redline option. My creature comforts are a little better. And my interior is way more advanced in styling IMO

Either way you have a nice car. If I went to a redline board with my SI I would probably get the same response you do here.


hey wassup, i was wondering when you would chime in, and yes with the 40 shot you are faster, there is no denying that, only it took a 40 shot and bolt on's to get that way, give me a 40 shot and bolt on's and it would be a waaaaay different story.

And like you said with the styling, ect. Its your opinion, i dont hate the cars, i think honda makes a good car and has some pretty reliable motors :) they just dont have that umph that i need, i mean cmon dude, i obviously dont care about how a car looks lol, i used to drive a freakin probe lol.
I think my car looks better and has a better interior, but again thats just my opinion, when i drove the new Civic i didnt like how the dash was set up, nor did i like the seating, the shifter also felt kinda sloppy... its all based off of personal preference and ours are different... however even you cant argue the fact that the redline is put together on a whole nother level performance wise.

I have been wanting to test the whole handling side of my car since i read that the redline handles better, tho... i am very anal about my car and that makes me timid in the corners sometimes because i would never want to do anything to hurt my baby, therefore i may not drive the car to its full potential, i would love to go on a cruise with you guys the next time one comes around tho :)

And just so no one thinks im just trying to be a dick, the whole "ION Redline Comercial" thing was all in good fun, a little heckling to get the competitive juices flowing :)

[redb20teg]

i rather loose in my Si or RSX than drive an ION.

[BOOSTHARD]

i rather loose in my Si or RSX than drive an ION.

Seriously... some people are just stupid about cars, whoc ares if it has a saturn badge on it... that doesnt make the car any lesser of a vehichle.

basicaly what you are saying is that you would rather pay that inflated price for the honda/acura name than drive a better car just because its made by saturn? you do realize that saturn isnt an independant company and never was dont you? Saturn is and has always been GM. its not some crappy ass company.

[M@]

Seriously... some people are just stupid about cars, whoc ares if it has a saturn badge on it... that doesnt make the car any lesser of a vehichle.

Yes, it does actually.

By the way, GM sucks. Honda > GM. Always. Period. I gauruntee a new Si will stay in one piece a hell of a lot longer than your fagbadged Ion.

[BOOSTHARD]

Yes, it does actually.

By the way, GM sucks. Honda > GM. Always. Period. I gauruntee a new Si will stay in one piece a hell of a lot longer than your fagbadged Ion.

LOL... Honda anything-VS-Redline, Cobalt SS/SC, WS6 T/A, Maro SS, Corvette C-3,4,5,6 and ZO6... you're out of your mind if you think Honda > GM.

The most honda has to show for a performance car is that weak sauce POS NSX, i mean for christ sake, $90,000 for a high 13 second car? WEAK!

[redb20teg]

i rather loose in my Si or RSX than drive an ION,



or anything saturn.

[redb20teg]

Honda > GM. Always. Period.

mother f'n :werd:

[BOOSTHARD]

mother f'n :werd:

tell you guys what, ill geta bunch of GM guys together and you get your honda fan boi's togetehr and we will have a GM-VS-Honda race... i can gaurantee the outcome wont be in your favor.

[M@]

tell you guys what, ill geta bunch of GM guys together and you get your honda fan boi's togetehr and we will have a GM-VS-Honda race... i can gaurantee the outcome wont be in your favor.

BWUAHAHAHHAHA! Fucking sweet.. this is what I was hoping for. Tell me when and where you'd like your ass raping.

BTW, let's compare how many recalls GM has vs. Honda, then tell me GM > Honda.

Let me know when and where, I'll be there. I want you to be my first victim of the night.. hell, I'll even work you on low boost just so I don't completely crush your ego.

[Tibbett]

LOL... Honda anything-VS-Redline, Cobalt SS/SC, WS6 T/A, Maro SS, Corvette C-3,4,5,6 and ZO6... you're out of your mind if you think Honda > GM.

The most honda has to show for a performance car is that weak sauce POS NSX, i mean for christ sake, $90,000 for a high 13 second car? WEAK!

Back off the NSX man...

I don't understand why you came over here just to start shit..seems kinda trollish to me. Yes..I'm calling you, a fellow Redline owner, a troll.

Come around our area and I'll run you RL for RL.. :D

[M@]

Tibbett, let me guess. He cried on a national Redline forum and linked everyone over here to see his toolness?

[Tibbett]

Tibbett, let me guess. He cried on a national Redline forum and linked everyone over here to see his toolness?

Quite correct sir..thought we'd all back him up and of course ;OwnEd;

I just don't see a reason in starting stuff like this..

[M@]

Who knows!

[Tibbett]

It's kinda like going onto Rennlist (a Porsche site if you don't know) and talking smack with a Chevette..

[BOOSTHARD]

Back off the NSX man...

I don't understand why you came over here just to start shit..seems kinda trollish to me. Yes..I'm calling you, a fellow Redline owner, a troll.

Come around our area and I'll run you RL for RL.. :D

I didnt come over here to start shit, ive been on this board since waaaaay before i ever even thought about buying a redline.

i know people here and was just trying to have some fun, dont jump my case without getting your fucking facts straight.

[BOOSTHARD]

Quite correct sir..thought we'd all back him up and of course ;OwnEd;

I just don't see a reason in starting stuff like this..

Acctualy i posted a thread saying how funny it was, i never asked for any backup... dont make shit up.

[M@]

Save the drama for your mama.

[BOOSTHARD]

Save the drama for your mama.

How about i save it for your mamma ;HeY; :spit: :P

[Tibbett]

Acctualy i posted a thread saying how funny it was, i never asked for any backup... dont make shit up.

What I meant was that is how it came off over there..the shit doesn't need to get started.. As for getting my fucking facts straight.. It's STILL an import board..How do you THINK they're going to react to it? Those that do not know you?

Is that why "Lets see how long it takes me to get banned LOL." was the first line in your thread on our forums and the whole post was about forum wars? I'd rather just avoid all the bullshit drama and just work on our cars..which you should start doing.

[M@]

How about i save it for your mamma ;HeY; :spit: :P
...wow... you really... really.. (no.. seriously).. got me good on that one.

[BOOSTHARD]

What I meant was that is how it came off over there..the shit doesn't need to get started.. As for getting my fucking facts straight.. It's STILL an import board..How do you THINK they're going to react to it? Those that do not know you?

Is that why "Lets see how long it takes me to get banned LOL." was the first line in your thread on our forums and the whole post was about forum wars? I'd rather just avoid all the bullshit drama and just work on our cars..which you should start doing.

then go work on your fucking car and leave me the fuck alone, all i was trying to do was have a little fun and i even stated so earlier on in the thread, if someone wants to take this shit to heart then that is thier fucking problem for being a fucking hurt little bitch.

And yes.. i did say "lets see how long it takes me to get banned" but that was also in a joking manner, seriously pull the g string out of your ass and go drive your porsche or somthing, you obviously have waaaay too much time on your hands considering that you joined the IRL forums a few months after i did and have like 10X the posts. Learn to have some fun and quit making this somthing it isnt.

M@, Conrad, redb20teg, floored4door... did i offend you with this thread? Because if i did i did not inted to, like i stated before i was just trying to have a little competitive fun. im pretty sure all of you know by now that when i do things like this i am just fucking around.

[M@]

Let me know when this GM vs. Honda showdown is.

[BOOSTHARD]

...wow... you really... really.. (no.. seriously).. got me good on that one.

Damn skippy... thats because i pwn you beeeyoch.... LOL

but seriously, we should try to get an Import-VS-Domestic "friendly" little competition going :)

and i think we both know i am no match for you, and even if you did turn down the boost and run me, smoke me, laugh at me... there would be no damage to my "Ego" because i dont have one :P

i wouldnt mind running a few boosted hondas to see how well my car stands up to one :) because in all reality even a Stage 2 IRL would have a hell of a time with a boosted K Series motor

[BOOSTHARD]

Let me know when this GM vs. Honda showdown is.

Werd... lemme see if i can get some GM guys rounded up :)

Does it matter what i bring? just GM 4 CYL? or are T/A's, Maro's, vette's, ect cool?

[M@]

I don't care.

And no, you don't pwn me. Stfu.

[Ron9919]

Redline > SI
Redline > RSX-S
Sky Redline > S2000
or hell how about this
Redline > S2000
yeah i love it haha:guns:

[BOOSTHARD]

I don't care.

And no, you don't pwn me. Stfu.

:spit: :fu:

[max_boost]

Just a quick question, how can you consider your Vue a Honda killer when it's powered by Honda? It's more like the Honda is killing the Equinox and Torrent.

[fullthrottle]

Tibbett, let me guess. He cried on a national Redline forum and linked everyone over here to see his toolness?
come on boosthard leave these guys alone. you've had your fun.

[fullthrottle]

come on boosthard leave these guys alone. you've had your fun.
Originally Posted by M@
Tibbett, let me guess. He cried on a national Redline forum and linked everyone over here to see his toolness?

yeah boosthard lets lighten up a bit. come on man if they came over to our forums and did the same thing you would get upset.

ok thats the only bad thing your gonna hear from me im not here to troll your threads I just wanted to set some facts strait.

[David]

You guys drive FF economy cars, pull your heads out of your asses and STFU.

[fullthrottle]

You guys drive FF economy cars, pull your heads out of your asses and STFU.
ok buddy your cool.....

[BOOSTHARD]

Just a quick question, how can you consider your Vue a Honda killer when it's powered by Honda? It's more like the Honda is killing the Equinox and Torrent.

Good point, i never thought about it that way lol. i dont drive the VUE too much since i got the ION so its easy to overlook that detail. ill change the sig :)

[BOOSTHARD]

You guys drive FF economy cars, pull your heads out of your asses and STFU.

What the hell do you drive?

[David]

A FF economy car, its the shizzit111! I put lyke $25 of gas into the thing dis morn' and now it fawking flies OMG LOL IMO

[Conrad]

i still dont get it... boosthard im not offended. But your comparisons go in circles

Your car faster off line, mine pulls past you and is faster in the end. (without nos)

You say that mine is overpriced... sure, but people like it, and they have sold out of 06s and half of the 07s..

Your car is SC? what is the point... of course its faster If we had the same bolt ons I would be faster period....

The price you have for an SI is a little over what I paid mine was < 20K

Both have recaros so thats a sorry comparison.

The only valid argument you make is that your car is cheaper.... And with that come the reasons. IE saturns reputation for cheap cars... Its still subpar when it comes to engineering... A poll on anyboard other than a redline board would show people prefer the interior of an SI over a RL. Sticking the guages in the middle is cute on a scion but its fairly lame and pointless in am ion. Really what purpose does it have other than making you take your eyes off the road not only vertically but horizontally...

If you really want to compare your car to something compare it to what it really is a 4 door FI sport compact... and that puts you in with neon srt4s, evos, wrx's, all of which are faster, and i think everyone on this board would prefer all those over a RL

Anyway I thought you were ok in person, but coming to an import board to show ignorance or just to feel good that your car is cheaper than mine than just dont bother, please leave HAI.


edit...
I am sorry I just thought I would put this last thing about the GM > honda comment

Best Family Sedan last 14 years = Accord
Best Compact car last 12 years = civic
Best small truck 2 years = ridgeline (its only been out for 2)
Best MiniVan 9 years = Oddessy (dont know if i spelled that right)

GM doesnt lead in any area.. They are close on trucks but ford is still ahead.

[V8SpankR]

So,what does this Saturn pull at Bandi?

[Chris_V=|work|=]

my 4cyl front wheel drive economy car gets way better gas mileage and pussy than yours

[M@]

So.. when's the race?

[SoupsREX]

i still dont get it... boosthard im not offended. But your comparisons go in circles

Your car faster off line, mine pulls past you and is faster in the end. (without nos)

You say that mine is overpriced... sure, but people like it, and they have sold out of 06s and half of the 07s..

Your car is SC? what is the point... of course its faster If we had the same bolt ons I would be faster period....

The price you have for an SI is a little over what I paid mine was < 20K

Both have recaros so thats a sorry comparison.

The only valid argument you make is that your car is cheaper.... And with that come the reasons. IE saturns reputation for cheap cars... Its still subpar when it comes to engineering... A poll on anyboard other than a redline board would show people prefer the interior of an SI over a RL. Sticking the guages in the middle is cute on a scion but its fairly lame and pointless in am ion. Really what purpose does it have other than making you take your eyes off the road not only vertically but horizontally...

If you really want to compare your car to something compare it to what it really is a 4 door FI sport compact... and that puts you in with neon srt4s, evos, wrx's, all of which are faster, and i think everyone on this board would prefer all those over a RL

Anyway I thought you were ok in person, but coming to an import board to show ignorance or just to feel good that your car is cheaper than mine than just dont bother, please leave HAI.


edit...
I am sorry I just thought I would put this last thing about the GM > honda comment

Best Family Sedan last 14 years = Accord
Best Compact car last 12 years = civic
Best small truck 2 years = ridgeline (its only been out for 2)
Best MiniVan 9 years = Oddessy (dont know if i spelled that right)

GM doesnt lead in any area.. They are close on trucks but ford is still ahead.

Few things I wanted to point out...

1. You said your faster towards the end of a race from a stop... doubtful. Race a RL from a roll, it won't be pretty.

2. Saying... if we had the same bolts on, if we had this, if you didn't have a SC doesn't make sense, the cars are what they are, you rev high, their SC'd.

3. I don't have anything against honda, but the end of your post about the cars and trucks winning awards really gets me when the ridgeline is brought up. The ridgeline doesn't offer any type of hp or torque output, and doesn't have a full bed. SUV of the year, I can understand that... but truck?? You can't haul anything, you can't tow anything, all you can do is seat 5 in a nice interior. Thats far from a truck. Last time I saw a ridgeline towing something... I was sliding backwards down a boat ramp cause the boat was too heavy. Didn't see any fords/chevy/dodge TRUCKS having that problem. Sorry for the ridgeline rant, but thats far from a truck.

[Conrad]

Few things I wanted to point out...

1. You said your faster towards the end of a race from a stop... doubtful. Race a RL from a roll, it won't be pretty.

2. Saying... if we had the same bolts on, if we had this, if you didn't have a SC doesn't make sense, the cars are what they are, you rev high, their SC'd.

3. I don't have anything against honda, but the end of your post about the cars and trucks winning awards really gets me when the ridgeline is brought up. The ridgeline doesn't offer any type of hp or torque output, and doesn't have a full bed. SUV of the year, I can understand that... but truck?? You can't haul anything, you can't tow anything, all you can do is seat 5 in a nice interior. Thats far from a truck. Last time I saw a ridgeline towing something... I was sliding backwards down a boat ramp cause the boat was too heavy. Didn't see any fords/chevy/dodge TRUCKS having that problem. Sorry for the ridgeline rant, but thats far from a truck.

1. I did race a RL from a roll and pulled on him. They have a better chance from a stand still because of tq off the line. I think stock civic non SIs can pull an SI from a start, they are sadly torqueless until 4 or 5 grand.

2. What I said is if both cars had the same bolt ons... IE both had SCs then the SI would make more power. That doesnt mean anything to anyone other then the RL owner that says hey mine is cheaper and mine comes with a SC.

3. The ridgeline has the same comparable towing capacity and more then some in its class... (SMALL TRUCK) Competition is GM colorado, canyon, Ford Ranger, Toyota tacoma, nissan frontier, The only one excelling away in that market as far as towing capacity is the dodge dakota because its the only one that comes with a V8.

Either way Honda's everyone will agree are more expensive than the competition. But unlike other dealers Honda's dont have a end of year sale to get rid of last years models because they always sell out and they lead in a lot of markets. I see RLs for sale all the time. used and new. You wont find a SI on the lot without a 3 to 5 thousand dollar markup, and even then that is rare. Over 50 percent of the 06 SI's were presold, meaning people are buying these things without even seeing or driving one. That is because Honda has a reputation and you can trust you will love the car.

And even after that GM cant even get MSRP on a cobalt or a RL

[SoupsREX]

1. I did race a RL from a roll and pulled on him. They have a better chance from a stand still because of tq off the line. I think stock civic non SIs can pull an SI from a start, they are sadly torqueless until 4 or 5 grand.

2. What I said is if both cars had the same bolt ons... IE both had SCs then the SI would make more power. That doesnt mean anything to anyone other then the RL owner that says hey mine is cheaper and mine comes with a SC.

3. The ridgeline has the same comparable towing capacity and more then some in its class... (SMALL TRUCK) Competition is GM colorado, canyon, Ford Ranger, Toyota tacoma, nissan frontier, The only one excelling away in that market as far as towing capacity is the dodge dakota because its the only one that comes with a V8.

Either way Honda's everyone will agree are more expensive than the competition. But unlike other dealers Honda's dont have a end of year sale to get rid of last years models because they always sell out and they lead in a lot of markets. I see RLs for sale all the time. used and new. You wont find a SI on the lot without a 3 to 5 thousand dollar markup, and even then that is rare. Over 50 percent of the 06 SI's were presold, meaning people are buying these things without even seeing or driving one. That is because Honda has a reputation and you can trust you will love the car.

And even after that GM cant even get MSRP on a cobalt or a RL

1. I would have to see it to believe it... I've raced a RSX S in a RL, and put car lengths on it very easily, both from a roll and a stop. If you've beaten a RL from a roll, then that RL needs a driver mod. And not making torque til 4-5 grand... even then, are you really making any torque??

2. Can't say anymore... there could be a million "ifs" to have the SI or the RL win.

3. Still can't see it as "Truck" of the year, JMO.

And with the selling numbers and stuff, I don't dislike honda, I convinced my gf to get a fit about a month ago, its a good company, very reliable, good sales numbers, all kinds of positive things to say about them.

[Dave_L]

I can't believe this debate is still going on.

[Deceptakhan]

I can't believe this debate is still going on.

No shit. I'll take the si. Pimpin is pimpin

[floored4door]

oh dawg! my tires are cheaper for my 15's!!! oh man major own4g3! ;OwnEd;

[Deceptakhan]

Hey guys, lets go to that redline forum and argue with them how redlines suck. How the fuck are they going to come on an IMPORT forum and tell us how their redlines would make us feel the pain. If i'm going to get a cheap, american car that has more torque than its comparitive import, i'll get a fast neon. At least I can see the guages in front of me. Still look like a duestch though, but cooler than one of those gm's

[Conrad]

Corvettes > prius...

and it makes way more tq. Ooooooh burrrrrnn

[Deceptakhan]

Hahahaha. You know what I mean conrad

[kevino002]

i wouldnt mind running a few boosted hondas to see how well my car stands up to one :) because in all reality even a Stage 2 IRL would have a hell of a time with a boosted K Series motor

I would like to be part of this us Vs them thing.... I dont think you could beat any boosted honda, you better go and look for some DSM's to run ;OwnEd; . I love how RL, SRT-4 owners use Hondas to justify spending what they did on there NON N/A FACTORY FI CARS..

[floored4door]

Just from reading this post, i'd say that most ion owners are pretty cool, I guess boosthard is their weak link. I think he believes he drives a SRT4.

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/showthread.php?t=45529&highlight=Douche

[SoupsREX]

Again... I drive a subaru, I could really care less about the gauges on a Ion. Either way, I don't agree with how the original posted came across with his "joke" but the crazy things brought up like, "if my car was supercharged" and "if I were spraying" those are pretty funny.

[Deceptakhan]

or, if I had more money

[M@]

Hmmm... should I wear a black shirt or an army green shirt today?

[Deceptakhan]

Hmmm... should I wear a black shirt or an army green shirt today?

pink, make sure you pop that colla

[David]

I can't believe this debate is still going on.
Does saying "Honda > gm" over and over again really constitute a debate?

[TheWookieWithin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJkmg3i7x8&mode=related&search=

[Tibbett]

Hey guys, lets go to that redline forum and argue with them how redlines suck. How the fuck are they going to come on an IMPORT forum and tell us how their redlines would make us feel the pain. If i'm going to get a cheap, american car that has more torque than its comparitive import, i'll get a fast neon. At least I can see the guages in front of me. Still look like a duestch though, but cooler than one of those gm's

I just came to swat down the other..and decided to stick around and kick it some :D

I'd rather not argue over something that could easily be settled otherwise. We like whatever car we bought and you're not going to change that..it's like going up to a guy with a fully restored Chevette (I'm starting to see these :killtard: ) and asking him why the hell he'd waste his time on a Chevette..he has his reasons..

[Deceptakhan]

lol @ the chevette. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with domestics. If you drive a RL or a civic, good for you. They each have their strong points. Whether it be in rebates or power. Or lack there of.

Welcome to the site. Stay for awile. :)

[Tibbett]

lol @ the chevette. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with domestics. If you drive a RL or a civic, good for you. They each have their strong points. Whether it be in rebates or power. Or lack there of.

Welcome to the site. Stay for awile. :)

I plan on it.. I was kinda baffled by the first Chevette I saw restored, but really when you think of it..how many running Chevettes do you really see?

I'll admit though I'll be happy to pick up an M3 next year :D

[Dave_L]

Euros>*

[Tibbett]

Not my first Euro car (actually..the RL is my first non-Euro car) but it'll be my first BMW..so I'm kinda looking forward to see what kinda crowd they are.

[Dave_L]

It's definitely a different crowd. I started out with a 325i and loved it. Now I have an e36 M3 and love it even more. Plus, you can look forward to speeding, cutting people off, not using your blinker and talking on your phone while drinking a latte! :D

[Tibbett]

Lol :D

I'm actually looking at a dakar yellow e36 M3 right now..it'll either be that or one of the blue ones. I don't really like talking on my phone or drinking lattes...

[Dave_L]

Nice! Good choice!

I don't drink lattes either but I should just get an empty starbucks cup so I can fit the profile. lol.

[Tibbett]

Lol..the sad thing is I'm looking for an M3 to use as a daily driver so I can tear the ecotec down and build it for shits and giggles..

[Hellified SH]

i rather loose in my Si or RSX than drive an ION,



or anything saturn.

Well I am actually looking into the Saturn Sky-RL 2.0L 260 hp I4 and 260 ft-lbs - Compared to the 2007 Honda S2000 2.2L 237 hp I4, the Sky RL advertises as $6k less than the S2000 and the Sky has 23hp more along with 98 ft-lbs more.

2007 Saturn Sky-RL
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c459206a.jpg

2007 Honda S2000
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c457812a.jpg

Without looking at resale value I must say the SKY-RL is the one to have!

No matter what no vehicle make will ever beat the Honda resale values.

[Hellified SH]

there could be a million "ifs"

"IF" my aunt had nuts she would be my UNCLE, and your point is.

[M@]

That Sky looks like a cheap Vette.

[V8SpankR]

The Sky has been getting so-so reviews of their fit and finish and it definetly won't have the resale of the S2000 but for under $30k it is a deal but there is also it's sibling,the Solstice GXP.

[David]

I saw a sky in person the other day, I think they look absolutly amazing.

[Tibbett]

The RL version of it will atleast have a bit of umph to backup the looks of the car. I drove one of the Skys when they first came out and it had the handling..it just severely lacked the power. As far as fit and finish...If my car'll do what I want it to the stuff can fall out..that's just weight reduction. :D

[BOOSTHARD]

LOL...

i cant believe this is still going...

Conrad... ill tell you what, ill put the same amount of money (or even less) into my car as you did yours and still rip the paint off of your car... even with the nitrous, thats a nice setup by the way, i was looking at it in the shop today... did you install that yourself? its a really clean install, and i do have to admit the Si's interior is much nicer than the EX's interior that i drove, Your car is in good hands... We have a really good body and paint team... ill make sure to spend extra time cleanin it up and detailin it or ya too... ill even throw in a nice coat of wax and clean those wheels up too. :ezpi_wink

Oh and a word of advice... you seriously need to toss all of those ricer mags you have in the backseat, unless you are useing them for the catalog's inside. :)

[Skaterkid]

What have we learned? BOOSTHARD is an idiot and a dumbass.

[Conrad]

LOL...

i cant believe this is still going...

Conrad... ill tell you what, ill put the same amount of money (or even less) into my car as you did yours and still rip the paint off of your car... even with the nitrous, thats a nice setup by the way, i was looking at it in the shop today... did you install that yourself? its a really clean install, and i do have to admit the Si's interior is much nicer than the EX's interior that i drove, Your car is in good hands... We have a really good body and paint team... ill make sure to spend extra time cleanin it up and detailin it or ya too... ill even throw in a nice coat of wax and clean those wheels up too. :ezpi_wink

Oh and a word of advice... you seriously need to toss all of those ricer mags you have in the backseat, unless you are useing them for the catalog's inside. :)

Thats besides the point you could put far less money then it would cost to buy a corvette... and make the RL faster then one... But I would still rather have the corvette. or SI

[60-1teg]

tell you guys what, ill geta bunch of GM guys together and you get your honda fan boi's togetehr and we will have a GM-VS-Honda race... i can gaurantee the outcome wont be in your favor.

ill bring my civic.ill race and i know a few other high horse power hondas that would be down to destroy some chevys

[Pang]

Well I am actually looking into the Saturn Sky-RL 2.0L 260 hp I4 and 260 ft-lbs - Compared to the 2007 Honda S2000 2.2L 237 hp I4, the Sky RL advertises as $6k less than the S2000 and the Sky has 23hp more along with 98 ft-lbs more.

2007 Saturn Sky-RL
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c459206a.jpg

2007 Honda S2000
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c457812a.jpg

Without looking at resale value I must say the SKY-RL is the one to have!

No matter what no vehicle make will ever beat the Honda resale values.


Is the Sky made of all milk cartons too? Cars looks good but I couldn't see myself spending that kind of cash for some cheap plastic. As for any Saturn.

Couple years back one of my inlaws purchased a new saturn coupe. It had nothing but problems. First problem was bad casting in a front brake rotor causing the wheel to shake all crazy. The dealership had rebalanced the tires numerous times, changed the axles before they figured out it was the b-rotor. Then few months down the road a shifter cable decides to snap leaving him stranded on hwy 93 in Golden, then it had a problem with the check engine light coming on nonstop. He finally got fed up with it and traded it for a wrx. All that happened in less than 2 years of owning it. I guess it all comes down to "you get what you pay for"

[BOOSTHARD]

Thats besides the point you could put far less money then it would cost to buy a corvette... and make the RL faster then one... But I would still rather have the corvette. or SI

i totaly agree with you there, (except the Si over RL part) after seeing your car a little closer and being inside of it/around it, the car has grown on me, i can deffinately see myself driving one, and honestly i think i like the SI and the RL equaly as far as looks and comfort go, my car may be quicker but then again my car was designed to be quick in a straight line, both cars are built for different purposes and both are equaly beautiful in thier own way... mine shines in the quality that was put into it to make it a strong runner (as does yours but they are on differnt levels stock), yours deffinately has a sportier feel to it when sitting in the drivers seat, the only thing i dont like is the speedo, ect. being set at the very bottom of the windshield while the tack is right above the steering colum, i like how my gauges are set up... but that is just personal preference... after getting to spend some time with the car i have grown to really like it, so... you wont hear any more negative responses from me unless it is in a jokingly and friendly, competitive, manner.

BTW... I have some pictures of the color sanding, buffing, ect process if you want, i can post them up :)

[BOOSTHARD]

What have we learned? BOOSTHARD is an idiot and a dumbass.

Your mother sucks cocks in hell!!! ;HeY;


























j/k

[redb20teg]

Well I am actually looking into the Saturn Sky-RL 2.0L 260 hp I4 and 260 ft-lbs - Compared to the 2007 Honda S2000 2.2L 237 hp I4, the Sky RL advertises as $6k less than the S2000 and the Sky has 23hp more along with 98 ft-lbs more.

2007 Saturn Sky-RL
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c459206a.jpg

2007 Honda S2000
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c457812a.jpg

Without looking at resale value I must say the SKY-RL is the one to have!

No matter what no vehicle make will ever beat the Honda resale values.

yeah, the sky looks good, i'll give you that. but please dont compare and s2k to it, or anything saturn.;NutKick; the s2k is a true sports car not an economic way for everyone to have a ferrari looking car. even with more power than the s2k and more torque, i bet you would not pass me around the track on one.

[Tibbett]

I don't know about that..honestly you might be in for a slight dissapointment. If the suspension on the Redline version of the Sky is better than the normal version...... I've drove both the S2k and the base Sky with the 'upgraded' suspension for the base model. IMO the Sky w/suspension handled better than the S2k I drove, though the Honda was faster than the base Sky (by quite a bit).

If you look at it..Saturn is TRYING to take their company in a different direction than in the past. It's pretty much going to be Opel/Vauxhall in the states..only badged as Saturn. It's a shame that, for so many years, the company was absolute shit IMO because a few of the cars did have potential to be good cars. I'm not sure what has prompted the change here over the past few years, but I think it'll be a good move for them.

[Conrad]

i totaly agree with you there, (except the Si over RL part) after seeing your car a little closer and being inside of it/around it, the car has grown on me, i can deffinately see myself driving one, and honestly i think i like the SI and the RL equaly as far as looks and comfort go, my car may be quicker but then again my car was designed to be quick in a straight line, both cars are built for different purposes and both are equaly beautiful in thier own way... mine shines in the quality that was put into it to make it a strong runner (as does yours but they are on differnt levels stock), yours deffinately has a sportier feel to it when sitting in the drivers seat, the only thing i dont like is the speedo, ect. being set at the very bottom of the windshield while the tack is right above the steering colum, i like how my gauges are set up... but that is just personal preference... after getting to spend some time with the car i have grown to really like it, so... you wont hear any more negative responses from me unless it is in a jokingly and friendly, competitive, manner.

BTW... I have some pictures of the color sanding, buffing, ect process if you want, i can post them up :)

yea go a head and post that shit

[M@]

When's the race?

[Tibbett]

When's the race?

Right after the Cobalt guys get their butts handed to them from the SVT Cobra guys. :D

[M@]

Hmmm.

[Terry]

This thread sucks

[floored4door]

This thread sucks


:werd:

[M@]

:werd:
:werd:

[kevino002]

:werd: :werd:

[floored4door]

:werd:

:werd::werd::werd: to your :werd:

[Chris_V=|work|=]

werdizzle

[rsxownes]

So is this Honda vs IRL thing sill going on?... I stopped reading on that page and was curious because i might be interested.

P.S. thank you for entertaining me I am so bored right now at work because it's a Friday, you guys keep arguing with the hondas, Acuras, and the Ions it just cracks me up.

[M@]

How did it entertain you if you stopped reading after like 5 posts?

[rsxownes]

It wasnt just this thread, some of the other threads also with other people. But anyway is this Honda Vs. IRL thing going on?

[Conrad]

i have just read this thread.... I need to sell my SI... any takers?? I want to buy a new cobalt SS

[Deceptakhan]

i have just read this thread.... I need to sell my SI... any takers?? I want to buy a new cobalt SS

:rofl: :rofl: Oh. Shit. You funny, funny man. But yeah, those cobalt's have much better fit and finish than Honda does. You'll be much happier with the american boatanchor, I mean, its got a SUPERCHARGER! Did I mention the quality?

[M@]

i have just read this thread.... I need to sell my SI... any takers?? I want to buy a new cobalt SS
Funny you should say this. Up north, I LITERALLY only see girls driving Cobalt SS'. Majority of them are really cute, too. No joke though.. there are literally SEVERAL of them.