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tsitim
06-06-2002, 12:33 PM
OK I said that I would try to get something together and it's forming, those of you interested I'm getting toghether a race. The distance is about four hundred mile's and it will be the second sunday of August the entry is fifty dollars and the more people who enter the bigger the payout all money that is paid for the race is handed out to the first three winners. The money needs to be paid at least three weeks before the event so I could figure out the payings to the winners. We can only get this going if we get at least twenty five people to enter. If the event for some reason does not happen all your money will be refunded. A recipet will be handed out when you pay and it will be needed to compete in this event. If it goes well I will do this at least twice a year. So email me if interested so I can be certain this will go on. THANKS! :fro:

SC-MECHAM-WS6
06-06-2002, 12:39 PM
ummmmm...kay

Kendo
06-06-2002, 01:09 PM
I think I will save my $50, plus the $150+ I would get in speeding tickets, and go to an Open Track event.

dnunn187
06-06-2002, 01:27 PM
I am with this, seems like fun.Worth the risk IMO.I will hit you up and spread it to my club.

D.

TedR719
06-06-2002, 01:38 PM
Are you serious?

newt2
06-06-2002, 02:53 PM
Where we gonna run from and too? Sounds a little sketchy....

B16crxTurbo
06-06-2002, 03:05 PM
Sounds very sketch, but I remember that movie, "Cannonball Run" and the sequel too! I love the japanese guys in the turbo Starion. The 80's were cool...

Generic
06-06-2002, 04:05 PM
Need more info:
Who, where, payouts (1st 75%, 2nd 15%, 3rd 10%, etc) Limits? Car types? Classes? Who posts bail? etc.

Murdock

SinisterWRX
06-06-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Generic
Need more info:
Who posts bail?

Murdock

:D

i'll hold the money ;)

tsitim
06-06-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Generic
Need more info:
Who, where, payouts (1st 75%, 2nd 15%, 3rd 10%, etc) Limits? Car types? Classes? Who posts bail? etc.

Murdock

OK that sounds nice. About bail just don't get caught. That's what a radar jammer if for. Why wouldn't I be serious I'm going to do it to. The start and stop will be given to you when you pay. There are no classes or types. Any kind is cool it doesn't matter what kind of car you have it's about the driver and how fast your willing to go thru traffic. But mostly highway and we begin and end at a restaurant. If your scarred don't go, if your afraid of getting a tricket then don't go, afraid and rather stay at the track then I'll see you there the weekend before (gotta get some practice). Any suggestions are appreciated so let me know what you think.

tsitim
06-06-2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by SinisterSI


:D

i'll hold the money ;)
you can hold the money we all know where you live ;)

SinisterWRX
06-06-2002, 04:20 PM
sounds interesting....you should get disqualfied if you get a ticket, make it a little more interesting.

tsitim
06-06-2002, 04:26 PM
that would not be fair because thats the fun part of it, to see whos gonna run or not. Besides it's easy to lie and say you didn't get a ticket. Something else. come on give some ideas

Generic
06-06-2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by tsitim


OK that sounds nice. About bail just don't get caught. That's what a radar jammer if for. Why wouldn't I be serious I'm going to do it to. The start and stop will be given to you when you pay. There are no classes or types. Any kind is cool it doesn't matter what kind of car you have it's about the driver and how fast your willing to go thru traffic. But mostly highway and we begin and end at a restaurant. If your scarred don't go, if your afraid of getting a tricket then don't go, afraid and rather stay at the track then I'll see you there the weekend before (gotta get some practice). Any suggestions are appreciated so let me know what you think.

Little FYI before you end up in jail doing this.
Radar Jammers do not work :) It would be completely illegal for them to do so. FCC Regulations "This device cannot emit harmfull interference, and must accept and form of such interference" Look at any electric item you buy, its on there.

Also, check out www.troubleshooter.com They have Rocky Mountain radar on there a lot, they have filed numerous complaints, and multiple tests have proven that those devices don't work.

Unless you rip part of an Air Force A-WAC Apart, you don't have a usefull jammer :)

I'm thinking about it, I'd need a "less obvious" car though

Murdock

Generic
06-06-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by tsitim


OK that sounds nice. About bail just don't get caught. That's what a radar jammer if for. Why wouldn't I be serious I'm going to do it to. The start and stop will be given to you when you pay. There are no classes or types. Any kind is cool it doesn't matter what kind of car you have it's about the driver and how fast your willing to go thru traffic. But mostly highway and we begin and end at a restaurant. If your scarred don't go, if your afraid of getting a tricket then don't go, afraid and rather stay at the track then I'll see you there the weekend before (gotta get some practice). Any suggestions are appreciated so let me know what you think.

Oh, and on payouts, I'd do more like 60%, 30%, 10% Half as much for each place :)

Murdock

tsitim
06-06-2002, 05:04 PM
I like that one better 60%-30%-10% then buy a radar protector . Why a less obvious car? :confused:

Generic
06-06-2002, 06:09 PM
Because then its not as easy to pick out to the cops!

Weston
06-06-2002, 08:44 PM
Sounds like a parade of reckless driving. If you do that kind of thing, it's only a matter of time before you kill yourself or someone else and/or end up in jail. Other people's lives aren't yours to risk, especially for some dumb illegal street race. The cops will undoubtedly catch on, even if you keep the area and route secret. Some of them may not be the brightest, but they still have a lot more people, money, and resources that you or I.

The radar jammers made by Rocky Mountain Radar are nothing more than a bunch of non-functioning parts, and do nothing to protect you. There is an active jammer made by another company, but it only jams X and K bands (not Ka), and it's pretty illegal too. Laser can be jammed, but I've heard that some of the laser guns can detect jamming. And no one seems to be sure if it's legal or not; the FCC doesn't regulate optics, but I've heard that it might be considered interfering with an officer.

But even if you could jam all the radar and laser bands, you still aren't protected. They have timing marks along highways, and cops have these things called EYES! They don't need a radar gun to see reckless driving, and they can visually estimate your speed too (although I've never heard of a speeding ticket being written based on a visual estimate).

Being a part of a speed contest (including aiding or abetting) is a 12 point ticket. Attempting to elude a cop is another 12 point ticket and a FELONY too. Don't risk losing your license, freedom, and life for this crap. I've worked long and hard for what I have, and I don't plan to risk it all for some race. Be smart and just go somewhere like Bandimere or Second Creek Raceway. I plan to go to second creek after I upgrade my rear sway bar...

tsitim
06-06-2002, 10:32 PM
it's nice to know you care about other people. If your scarred and don't want to go then don't. Ok then! I don't know but if your worried about aiding and abetting then you should have not replied to this thread, don't you think your now a part of this? even if your against it? Your telling me that the only time you race your car is on the track? I don't think so. Then don't have any part of this OK!!

tsitim
06-06-2002, 10:34 PM
besides who said we were going to speed or go past the limit?
I didn't

newt2
06-07-2002, 09:03 AM
besides who said we were going to speed or go past the limit?

So you're going to have a contest to see who can get somewhere first but there's not going to be speeding? :rolleyes:

Just don't hold any part of it in my neighborhood. The last thing we need is cars flying down c470 at 140mph weaving in and out of traffic and killing people.

This kind of driving contest is best held on a track. Who cares abot tickets, it's your driving record but of one of the cars crashes and kills someone every participant can be charged as an accomplice. I don't do all my racing on the track, but I don't go weaving in and out of traffic at high speeds or race on crowded roads either and if you're looking for acceptance of such insanity go to COSR. There's a difference between street racing and stupidity.

If you want to do events on public roads, try time and distance rallying. The goal there is to get to a specific location with limited diretions and arrive there no sooner or later than a set time. You get penalized for being early or late. Those events are much safer and also legal.

SinisterWRX
06-07-2002, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by newt2


The last thing we need is cars flying down c470 at 140mph weaving in and out of traffic ...



like people don't already drive that bad on c470 :eek:

DnVr
06-07-2002, 09:25 AM
I think thats a cool idea, 400 miles is kinda far though.
I think you might get more entries and less tickets if you did say 100 miles, race would be over in an hour and less cars would die.
maybe do it in the middle of the night so theres no traffic.
just some suggestions , Its your race not mine...:D

tsitim
06-07-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by DnVr
I think thats a cool idea, 400 miles is kinda far though.
I think you might get more entries and less tickets if you did say 100 miles, race would be over in an hour and less cars would die.
maybe do it in the middle of the night so theres no traffic.
just some suggestions , Its your race not mine...:D

that's why I asked for suggestions. We don't need a bunch of preachers. But any info will be greatly appreciated and if I wanted to join COSR I would not be on this badass site would I?
without trying to start any trouble I'm sorry but if I wanted to race on the track also I will. Ok then if anybody is racing on the track and your also on the track aren't you in danger? :confused:

Weston
06-07-2002, 05:44 PM
newt2 wrote: "I don't do all my racing on the track, but I don't go weaving in and out of traffic at high speeds or race on crowded roads either and if you're looking for acceptance of such insanity go to COSR. There's a difference between street racing and stupidity."

You took the words out of my mouth. I agree with you completely.

tsitim wrote: "I don't know but if your worried about aiding and abetting then you should have not replied to this thread, don't you think your now a part of this? even if your against it? Your telling me that the only time you race your car is on the track? I don't think so. Then don't have any part of this OK!!"

The term "aiding and abetting" means that I'm helping you in some way, which I am not doing and have no intention of doing. And no, I don't only run my car at the track, but I'm at least extremely careful and smart about it. Like newt2 said, "There's a difference between street racing and stupidity."

What you are proposing clearly falls under the 'stupidity' category. I've seen people do this kind of thing for much shorter distances (20-50 miles) and everytime they nearly cause multiple crashes, both with each other and with innocent people. And it was nothing other than pure luck that they haven't gotten in a serious accident or at least gotten caught.

Choosing to not particpate in that kind of activity is not about lack of driving skill or being afraid. It's about common sense and maturity; some people just don't have that. The roads and highways are not racetracks and do not exclusively belong to you.

nolimitsoldier
06-07-2002, 06:04 PM
That'd be fun, but not worth the risk to me...

tsitim
06-07-2002, 07:00 PM
first of all nobody said that the roads or highways belong to me. Who said that this event would be on a open road crowed with any thing? there are many places to have something like this happen!
OK so your extremely careful when you race your car on the street? if you were you would NOT RACE on the street right?

tsitim
06-07-2002, 07:34 PM
I have an idea how about instead of a road race we take it to the track the same wages but the best out of ten laps around second creek! since everybody is gettting all bent out of shape and probably going to try to break this up, how about I do it first? The event will happen on the 11th of August Ok that's if the track is open I'll check with second creek for more info. You will have to pay the track fee also if you want a chance to WIN more pay the extra fifty OK if this is not satisfactory for you then let me kow what you think! time to put your money where car where your keyboard is!

12seccivy
06-07-2002, 09:26 PM
hey tim!
i think you are missing the point these guys are trying to make.
we all share the singular passion of speed and cars(track or strip)
BUT! we do not want to endanger others for the sake of our passion or competition .. there is a thin line between danger and insanity.. and all who reponded against your idea seem to know where that line is,we have seen dangerous situations before and do not want to cause grief to others for the sake of fun..
think safely, drive safely and have fun..
that's why most of us race on the track a lot and a little on the street(if it seems safe)
no lectures ,no bull, your idea is a fun one,but not safe or practical

tsitim
06-07-2002, 09:34 PM
It's not that I'm missing the point it's that some 'tared' is emailing me left and right acting like a little kid and who ever it is doesn't have a valid email address. So I know they are reading this and they are responding it's not really about who's posting to this thread. But fortunitly they keep responding even as I type this up, got dammit!!!!!! but who ever wants to compete in either event I'm GAME!!

Violator
06-09-2002, 01:07 PM
damn, tsitim your carzy, I dont know many that would compete in something like this that would indanger their car or other people just for speed. Street racing is just as bad and I think some people are growing out of Street Ricing(at least in big groups of cars). Just be careful and dont hurt yourself or anyone else in your quest for speed.

TedR719
06-09-2002, 03:27 PM
http://www.nobs-thumbs.com/triumph.jpg

newt2
06-10-2002, 08:32 AM
If it's on a racetrack I'll come out and take all your money. :D

tsitim
06-10-2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by newt2
If it's on a racetrack I'll come out and take all your money. :D

I'm sorry I don't break the law by betting! I will not do any speeding or racing across any kind of road. This kind of stuff is illegal! I can't believe you would even bring this up

Tsunami
06-10-2002, 05:09 PM
this is retarded and I hope you all get arrested before any of this takes place. Race at the track, quit being so immature.

newt2
06-11-2002, 09:15 AM
I'm sorry I don't break the law by betting! I will not do any speeding or racing across any kind of road. This kind of stuff is illegal! I can't believe you would even bring this up

:rolleyes:

Like I said in my original post, there's a difference between illegal and just plain stupid. I break the law from time to time, but I'm going to kill some family on vacation because I think it's cool to barrel across the country at triple digit speeds. That's not only immature but it gives all guys with fast cars a bad name. In other words, it a ricer manuver.

The really dumb thing about this whole idea is that you can actualy go to sanctioned events and do it legally. The Silver State Classic in Nevada is run twice a year on a public road that is closed to traffic for the weekend. It costs less than $200 to do it too.

shane
06-11-2002, 09:48 AM
this is retarded and I hope you all get arrested before any of this takes place. Race at the track, quit being so immature

racing at the track is;gay; keep it on the street were it belongs, late at night, away from traffic, and away from bandimere!!! yeah i go there just to see what times i get, but that greedy bastard has to be stopped!!! $30.00 is fuc$king crazy, unless i am gauranteed at least 6 runs.

i have nothing against your idea(it is a FREE country) and i even like the plan. i only ask that all of the racers are forced to remove the seatbelts from their cars in order to help control our over population!




shane

Tsunami
06-11-2002, 10:32 AM
lol