View Full Version : LS crank in GSR
Slava
03-03-2006, 01:24 PM
I had a thread on this before but now I can't find it.
So by adding a LS crank to a stock GSR block it will increase the displacement. Here is what I found on Honda-Tech:
GSR CR 9.98:1-----1797 cc
GSR+LS crank CR 11.11:1-----1834 cc
GSR+LS crank+P30 pistons CR 13.05:1-----1834 cc
By increasing the displacement and compression you are deffinatly increasing HP and TQ but how abour reliability at 8,200+ RPM?
LS vtec motors can't rev that high. Some people say because of the LS rods, others say because of the crank.
So what do you think?
All opinions are welcomed.
servion
03-03-2006, 05:16 PM
The LS motor can't rev high cor a handful of reasons... to name a few:
1) rods (rodbolts)
2) the heads use a "floating" rocker setup
3) stock LS heads aren't optimized for high RPM power
The difference between revving a GSR crank high and an LS crank high is very minimal. I revved mine to 9.6k the last couple years without a problem and I anticipate at least 10k this year.
fantasya98
03-03-2006, 11:24 PM
The LS motor can't rev high cor a handful of reasons... to name a few:
1) rods (rodbolts)
2) the heads use a "floating" rocker setup
3) stock LS heads aren't optimized for high RPM power
The difference between revving a GSR crank high and an LS crank high is very minimal. I revved mine to 9.6k the last couple years without a problem and I anticipate at least 10k this year.
with all the members on here, servion is someone ill def. take advice from; even though ive nvr met him. :cheers:
servion
03-06-2006, 01:58 PM
with all the members on here, servion is someone ill def. take advice from; even though ive nvr met him. :cheers:
Thanks :)
HONDA GHANDI
03-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Basically you will be getting a longer stroke with the LS crank (1.8mm) which increases your piston speed slightly as well as displacement. CR will be determined mostly by the pistons you decide to use and the head you use. The RS ratio is not so bad that you cant rev it either, should make a decent setup with a good cylinder head package. The stock rods will be suspect at high revs as well as LS cylinder head design. But the crank wont be an issue especially if you are looking at N/A power.
rmcdaniels
03-06-2006, 02:39 PM
ARP makes rod bolts, main cap studs, and head studs for it,
Slava
03-06-2006, 02:57 PM
with all the members on here, servion is someone ill def. take advice from; even though ive nvr met him. :cheers:
I know Servion personally and definatly will take his word and seeing some of his work in person I know his word counts.
B20badboy
03-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Werent you running an LS crank Jeremy?
servion
03-07-2006, 10:57 AM
yep :) Still am.
B20badboy
03-08-2006, 07:23 AM
What are the advantages again?
servion
03-08-2006, 09:27 AM
Basically more torque (and therefore horsepower) throughout the powerband.
oldskoolracer
03-13-2006, 03:38 PM
does this mean if you wanted to you could just tear up a good ls and throw it all into a gsr block?
waste of money, but had to ask for the hell of it
boosted_b16
03-13-2006, 07:08 PM
the only thing you need to change to rev it to 8,200 rpm is a set of arp rod bolts, because you need to use the LS crank AND rods, and the LS rod bolts are weak, a set of arp head bolts would be good to use as well, gs-r motor with LS rods and crank and p30 pistons is just like an LS/vtec w/ p30 pistons.
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