So this guy I beat in a talon says he can take me...Not what I remember!

[2000SiVTEC]

So there is this guy at school with a 95 talon tsi turbo whom I have beat before. Mind you I went from a third gear roll on no downshift adn beat him no problem. i distincly remember this day because he revved at me while I was in the turn lane. I pulled out after him after that:D. Well my G/F is at her friends house toight and he is there. Somehow the topic of me came up and he asked how I could put all that money into an Si and not beat him. I told her to tell him I will run anytime any place. I have two other similar cars that woudl be down for the run too. I am sorry but if your car is stock like he/you claim then I will win in a 1/4 race. I may be up at bandi this weekend so if you are there we can do it or maybe I will see you around. Anyhow just had to rant, I am tired of people posing. So if you are reading this I would be up for a friendly race:) Just a heads up...:)

[DnVr]

:smashfrea
BEAT HIS HEAD IN

[SC-MECHAM-WS6]

Get'm Steve!

[Dallas J]

For some reason alot of DSM owners think theyre invincible cause they have a stock turbo car....

Kick his ass Seabass

[Brian]

From no on when I race someone i'm going to make them look like a bitch. No more not downshifting. I'm dropping it down a gear and tearing them a new ass. Otherwise they get all sorts of ideas like what happened in a certain other post where rico was letting up after he passed a couple opther members and then they think he only beat them by a little. Time to put the smack down :)

[2000SiVTEC]

I am going to rip him a new ass when I see him. If he is so confident that my Si is slow then I think he would be willing to put his money where his mouth is......Oh and he has a 95 Kawasaki that I guess he was bragging about to everyone too. Wonder if he wants to try my Kawi:)

[SC-MECHAM-WS6]

Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
Oh and he has a 95 Kawasaki that I guess he was bragging about to everyone too

I wouldnt mind another bike kill...:M:

[DlandryTSI]

Hehe wanna borrow my car steve? :D

--Dave

[plug1]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC

Otherwise they get all sorts of ideas like what happened in a certain other post where rico was letting up after he passed a couple opther members and then they think he only beat them by a little.

Other members like....?

Hopefully you're not talking about the whole GTI vs SI vs A4 post!

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by plug1


Other members like....?

Hopefully you're not talking about the whole GTI vs SI vs A4 post!

yea I hope not either cause we all know what happened.

[SinisterWRX]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
Time to put the smack down :)

thats what i'm talking about :D

[rico_00si]

whoa whoa whoa. we all know what happened what?? i do recall winning. not trying to be prick or start a flame war or even make people mad, but i gotta get in on this. :D it's pretty obvious what's being talked about here. yeah, so we had a few races and i pulled a car or two at the most and shut down. but what doesnt make sense is the gti raced the red hatch and lost or was pretty close, best time by the hatch was a 16 flat. no, we just ran 14's last weekend, the difference in car lengths for a second is gonna be more than one car......

let the war begin..........:guns:

[rico_00si]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
From no on when I race someone i'm going to make them look like a bitch. No more not downshifting. I'm dropping it down a gear and tearing them a new ass. Time to put the smack down :)


WORD!!........:PIMP:

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by rico_00si
whoa whoa whoa. we all know what happened what?? i do recall winning. not trying to be prick or start a flame war or even make people mad, but i gotta get in on this. :D it's pretty obvious what's being talked about here. yeah, so we had a few races and i pulled a car or two at the most and shut down. but what doesnt make sense is the gti raced the red hatch and lost or was pretty close, best time by the hatch was a 16 flat. no, we just ran 14's last weekend, the difference in car lengths for a second is gonna be more than one car......

let the war begin..........:guns:

I never claimed to win, i simply stated that everyone involved knows the outcome of the race which was you pulling about a car and a half to two cars. I in no way am claiming to be faster then you, but i do find it a little offensive when brian said you took it easy and you should have spanked me by alot more. It was pretty obvious when you let off but this was also close to 90 mph. i dont think I exagerated or have any "ideas" on how close the race was, as I expected to loose to you( im still stock:rolleyes:. Andy and Ryan also saw the race and can verify. Also keep in mind when I raced the red hatch my car was 3 weeks old...

Weve gone over this in the other thread, it seems like some people just dont wanna believe it...which is fine with me...this board can always use a nice flame war
:PIMP:

[Brian]

I wasn't trying to be offensive. I just listened to both sides and made a conclusion based on that. Two high 15 to low 16 second cars versus a 14 second car......I know that as soon as I pass someone and pull a little I usually let off because it's pointless to push it further on the street. This can sometimes give the impression that a race was closer than it was in reality. Not trying to start anything, we will all see how things go once we all get to the track and have a fun time :D

[plug1]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
I wasn't trying to be offensive. I just listened to both sides and made a conclusion based on that. Two high 15 to low 16 second cars versus a 14 second car......I know that as soon as I pass someone and pull a little I usually let off because it's pointless to push it further on the street. This can sometimes give the impression that a race was closer than it was in reality. Not trying to start anything, we will all see how things go once we all get to the track and have a fun time :D

I hope you're not including my car as one of those "high 15 to low 16 sec cars"...my car was capable of high 15's last year, before exhaust, before the new chip program. Or even Jeff's...he'll be hitting 15's easy i'm sure.

I ran a 16.1 with a 2.3 60 ft...and you know with AWD my car is easily capable of a 2.0 60ft. But i showed off my inexperience by only hitting a 2.3...i've been to the track all of 9 times.
The launches will be taken care of by the new clutch going in on the 6th of may.

As for that night with Rico, it was never a case of him letting up as i continued to gun it...every time we went, we both gunned it at the same time and i was usually the first person to let off.

Go back and read the post...Rico said...the first time we raced, we gunned it from about 45mph...i'm guessing we shut down around 75 or 80mph...and i pulled a car on him. When we raced out of 2nd gear to about 75 or 80mph...Rico put about 1.5 cars on me.

4 people were there and 4 people know what actually happend. Brian, you weren't there...and i assure you if someone were lieing, someone would have called them out by now. I never said i was faster...i'm telling you guys that you're not THAT much quicker than us...or as much as you originally thought. I know there is now way i'll hit a 14 with what i have on my car right now...but if you guys are hitting 14.9's...i'll be right behind you with a sub 15.5 run.

[TedR719]

OK I might be great that you "hanged" but a second on the 1/4 time is more than it sounds.

Example: Steve and I raced from a street and he murdered me pretty bad and he is about a second faster than me...if Brian still has video you might see a black dot back there somewhere :D

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
I wasn't trying to be offensive. I just listened to both sides and made a conclusion based on that. Two high 15 to low 16 second cars versus a 14 second car......I know that as soon as I pass someone and pull a little I usually let off because it's pointless to push it further on the street. This can sometimes give the impression that a race was closer than it was in reality. Not trying to start anything, we will all see how things go once we all get to the track and have a fun time :D

I agree its pointless to push it on the street once you pass someone..but It took him till mid way through 3rd gear to pass me wich is about 75-80 mph and we shut down at 90+ mph with him 1.5 cars ahead. I say all of us head to the track when i get back and get some solid numbers instead of guessing what everyone else runs. Thats the only way we can know for sure.

[Brian]

Originally posted by plug1




.but if you guys are hitting 14.9's...i'll be right behind you with a sub 15.5 run.

14.7@99.13 with a 2.4 60'........my traps are high enough for a high 13 or low low 14 that is why esppecially from a roll you guys should eat exhaust fumes :)

[2000SiVTEC]

Mind you that is the first time I have ever ran the car boosted. Sure it may sound like an excuse, but it has low, low 14's in it! This argument has pretty much been beat to death and people are getting way too butt hurt:), but I do agree with what has been said here. I have said it before and I will say it again. From a roll we are faster. Why he didn't win by more I don't know. Shit happens I guess, however, I beat that whole crew of GTI's and Jettas two or three weeks ago from a roll no problem by more than just a car adn a half. And only one of them was a VR6 the rest were 1.8t's. Hell a couple were even modded. Not saying your cars are not quick because they ARE. Jeff's GTI is nice as hell and they are quick I have driven them on more than one occasion, but are they as fast as my car, Brians or Rico's? NO, I speak from first hand experience. Ryans car is also freaking sweet. Nothing beats an AWD launch. I, however, think it should be faster than the GTI in the 1/4, but like I said before I have seen shit happen. On the street nothing is really fair and is a poor measure of performance. But look out if you see me:fro: :) **flame suit on**

[2000SiVTEC]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC


14.7@99.13 with a 2.4 60'........my traps are high enough for a high 13 or low low 14 that is why esppecially from a roll you guys should eat exhaust fumes :)

Not to mention that beautiful 60' time.....

[plug1]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC


14.7@99.13 with a 2.4 60'........my traps are high enough for a high 13 or low low 14 that is why esppecially from a roll you guys should eat exhaust fumes :)

i don't understand what you mean by...your traps are high enough for a 13 or low 14 run...i agree thats a high trap, but if you're capable of running a 13 or low 14, why don't you?

And i agree...we *should* be slower in gear, but its been said 10 times what happend that night...and leave out the excuses like, he should have downshifted or he started at a bad spot in gear. If you're out knowing that you're going to race...why would you gun it from a place in gear where your car isn't going to be as fast as it could be?

haha i'm done with this flame war. Everyone knows what happend when we went head to head on the street. No ones car was running below par that night. We'll bring it to the track and we'll watch you guys run your high 14's, me run a mid to low 15 and jeff run a high 15. end of story. :fro:

[Brian]

What don't you understand about the trap speed. Trap speed is an indication of horsepower. This shows that with Traction my car is capable of 13's. Traction being the key word, but I like the bragging rights of being on street tires. What i'm telling you is that racing us from a roll is like racing a 13 second car. Now by the time I go to the track I should be hitting low 14's or very close to them. remember I had stock exhaust last season on my 14.7 :).

As for the everyone knows what happened. Well I know that I don't bother to downshift when I know I will beat a car without it. Why be any harder on your vehicle than you need to. I'll meet up and run you sometime this week and get it on video if you would like. Ted runs about the same times you guys do. Want to see what a supercharged SI does to his car. We have that on tape. 1 second is quite a few car lengths.

[2000SiVTEC]

high traps=horsepower. Traction=key to getting there....supercharged Si@10psi=no traction on street tires...end of story.....me=running a 14.9=hitting the rev limiter in every gear(my bad)......let me come up with some more excuses rea quick...oh i spin in every gear. I had such violent wheel hop my tires almost came off the ground. Tobi can vouch for that one.....Point being here we have the power to run the times we say we do Brians 99 trap show it. I am not going to say I will run 13's but I will say taht I am going to run at the least a 14.5 on the setup I have now, with water injection. Oh and maybe some drag radials and my aem tuned then, maybe I will see some 13's, but I won't predict that until it happens......oh well either way Brian and I both have some very near future plans that will net us 13's no problem........

[plug1]

Cool, i was asking what you meant by the high trap speeds cause i didn't know...not because i didn't believe ya. Now I could continue to flame ya :) ...for saying your cars are capable of 13's...but you aren't running 13's because of traction or this not being tuned or that. Thats like saying...my car has the traction to hit 13's, i just don't have the power to get me there yet. Ya know? You run what you run. Thats great you have the power to run 13's...but power is only part of a 13 second run.

Brian, it'd be pointless to race my car right now, because the clutch is about gone...hence me saying the new clutch is going in on the 6th of May. I'd be down to run after that though.

What were you doing with stock exhaust last year? I thought all this time you were saying how loud the exhaust you had was, which made me think it wasn't stock. It didn't look stock anyway...was last years exhaust not a full exhaust or something?

Oh...and Ted ran a what? 15.9? So obviously my car will be closer to yours than his will...that video will do me no good...maybe jeff wants to see it though ;) Where our cars stand right now...i'm definitely not a full second slower.

[951porsche]

Can I pinch hit for you plug1? :) I know an automatic is no challenge for them, but at least I'll be consistant. :p

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
high traps=horsepower. Traction=key to getting there....supercharged Si@10psi=no traction on street tires...end of story.....me=running a 14.9=hitting the rev limiter in every gear(my bad)......let me come up with some more excuses rea quick...oh i spin in every gear. I had such violent wheel hop my tires almost came off the ground. Tobi can vouch for that one.....Point being here we have the power to run the times we say we do Brians 99 trap show it. I am not going to say I will run 13's but I will say taht I am going to run at the least a 14.5 on the setup I have now, with water injection. Oh and maybe some drag radials and my aem tuned then, maybe I will see some 13's, but I won't predict that until it happens......oh well either way Brian and I both have some very near future plans that will net us 13's no problem........

oh since we are now speculating on what we should run I wanna play this game too...on my run at the track I had lots of wheel spin followed by even more wheel hop. the stock all season tires definately dont help there and it shows in my 2.52 60' time..if I could get even a decent launch and around a 2.3 60' time i could have run 15 flat or high 14 (2700 ft altitude). steves trap speed was 93 mph on his 14.9 run and my trap was a 93.04 in my 15.4 run, so (disregard altitude for the time being) i shouldvbe able to get a 14 second time slip. Now I know that my car will be slower in colorado and I in no way am claimimg to be as fast or faster then steve, brian, or rico. but I might be faster than you guys think I should be running. We will find out this may, hopefully, what I will run at bandimere. and after I get a stock 1/4 mile time that pleases me then the modding will begin:cool: then well see what happens.

I hope no one is upset over this discussion cause I am really enjoying all this 1.8t vs si stuff

[rico_00si]

hehe...........this is great.

on the other hand i do agree with brian, why go all out if you're gonna win anyways, from now on though i will and that's that.

one other thing, ryan i ran you from a light a few weeks ago after work, that night i was really pushing my car, you even noticed i was pulling hard on you when i passed you up, you said so yourself and i know we didn't go up to 90mph that time.......

[plug1]

Originally posted by rico_00si
hehe...........this is great.

on the other hand i do agree with brian, why go all out if you're gonna win anyways, from now on though i will and that's that.

one other thing, ryan i ran you from a light a few weeks ago after work, that night i was really pushing my car, you even noticed i was pulling hard on you when i passed you up, you said so yourself and i know we didn't go up to 90mph that time.......

haha don't try to back track and say you weren't at WOT that night Jeff, Andy, you and i went out...i know you were pushing it all the way that night! Anyway....that nights a fucking dead horse if i've ever seen one... and some people still don't believe it.

I remember that night after work though, we gunned it from that light...and yes, you did pull. I can fill you up with excuses like my clutch being bad or having my 18's in the back...but i'll just leave you with one excuse:

I knew what happend the last time we raced...so i didn't push my car as hard as i could. "Why be any harder on your vehicle than you need to"? hahah...aren't i allowed excuses too? :p


(ps: that chick never came to check out the house today, so i don't think anyone is totally interested yet. drop me a line at work or call my cell sometime if you still are.)

[2000SiVTEC]

I do agree with Ryan that night is a dead horse......but all in good fun anyway, huh? :)

[TedR719]

I ran a 15.9 the other week, I did run a 15.8 last year with less mods. So the next time I go up I will hopefully beat my 15.8. I figured out my tach is way off and ordered a Fields VTEC Controller which has a digital tach :D So my goal this year is a 15.5 but we will see.

Enough talk just go up to the track....

Originally posted by plug1
Cool, i was asking what you meant by the high trap speeds cause i didn't know...not because i didn't believe ya. Now I could continue to flame ya :) ...for saying your cars are capable of 13's...but you aren't running 13's because of traction or this not being tuned or that. Thats like saying...my car has the traction to hit 13's, i just don't have the power to get me there yet. Ya know? You run what you run. Thats great you have the power to run 13's...but power is only part of a 13 second run.

Brian, it'd be pointless to race my car right now, because the clutch is about gone...hence me saying the new clutch is going in on the 6th of May. I'd be down to run after that though.

What were you doing with stock exhaust last year? I thought all this time you were saying how loud the exhaust you had was, which made me think it wasn't stock. It didn't look stock anyway...was last years exhaust not a full exhaust or something?

Oh...and Ted ran a what? 15.9? So obviously my car will be closer to yours than his will...that video will do me no good...maybe jeff wants to see it though ;) Where our cars stand right now...i'm definitely not a full second slower.

[Brian]

Originally posted by 02GTI1.8t

I hope no one is upset over this discussion cause I am really enjoying all this 1.8t vs si stuff

Same here guys, all of your cars are awesome, I just like the debate we have here :)...



Ryan, Last season I had The stock exhaust manifold(bad idea) and a stock cat. Now on the last test and tune of the season I gutted my cat which is when I ran the 14.7. It also raised my trap speeds by about 5 mph. Now I also have the kamikaze header, so my whole exhaust is now 2.5 inches from the exhaust ports back :D. Before I basically had a muffler.....

[Brian]

Now the last time I raced you I had the stock clutch, stock bald tires, 6 psi instead of 10, completely stock exhaust, no motor mounts, I think that's it :D

[shane]

Cool, i was asking what you meant by the high trap speeds cause i didn't know...not because i didn't believe ya. Now I could continue to flame ya ...for saying your cars are capable of 13's...but you aren't running 13's because of traction or this not being tuned or that. Thats like saying...my car has the traction to hit 13's, i just don't have the power to get me there yet. Ya know? You run what you run. Thats great you have the power to run 13's...but power is only part of a 13 second run.


the point here is that when you race from a roll the 1/4 mile ET's go out the window. from a roll you are not racing a 14 sec car, but a car that hits 99 MPH in the quarter. the fact that his car may be unable to get traction is no longer a factor.

for example, if i was to race JOHN from a stop(me on slicks of course) it would be my mid to high eleven sec car against his mid to low 11 sec car. i might stand a chance depending on his hole shot. now if we race from a roll it becomes my 116 mph trap speed against his 126 mph trap speed. his cars traction problems and my cars great hook up on slicks are no longer a factor. i stand a better chance of getting in BRITTANY SPEARS pants than i do beating JOHN from a roll.



the SI guys's points are valid.



shane

[Brian]

Originally posted by shane



the point here is that when you race from a roll the 1/4 mile ET's go out the window. from a roll you are not racing a 14 sec car, but a car that hits 99 MPH in the quarter. the fact that his car may be unable to get traction is no longer a factor.

for example, if i was to race JOHN from a stop(me on slicks of course) it would be my mid to high eleven sec car against his mid to low 11 sec car. i might stand a chance depending on his hole shot. now if we race from a roll it becomes my 116 mph trap speed against his 126 mph trap speed. his cars traction problems and my cars great hook up on slicks are no longer a factor. i stand a better chance of getting in BRITTANY SPEARS pants than i do beating JOHN from a roll.



the SI guys's points are valid.



shane


Thank you Shane, that was my point exactly :D

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
What i'm telling you is that racing us from a roll is like racing a 13 second car


thats great and all but it doesnt change the fact that Rico didnt pull much.

[2000SiVTEC]

sicne thats great and all, what I can say is this. We believe taht eh didnt puyll that much. But that is not what we are getting at. He shoudl have pulled more, why he didnt we will never know. You trapped only as high as I did on a bad run for me at 2700 feet. My traps are that high up HERE. Yours will not be that high up here, go back to shane's post and read what he is saying....and you will then understand what I am getting at. Whilw this is all getting old it is good fun:)

[plug1]

Originally posted by 99SIVTEC
Now the last time I raced you I had the stock clutch, stock bald tires, 6 psi instead of 10, completely stock exhaust, no motor mounts, I think that's it :D

Yup...and all i had was a chip :D

No exhaust, no different chip program, no 400ft lbs clutch :p

[plug1]

Originally posted by shane



the point here is that when you race from a roll the 1/4 mile ET's go out the window. from a roll you are not racing a 14 sec car, but a car that hits 99 MPH in the quarter. the fact that his car may be unable to get traction is no longer a factor.

for example, if i was to race JOHN from a stop(me on slicks of course) it would be my mid to high eleven sec car against his mid to low 11 sec car. i might stand a chance depending on his hole shot. now if we race from a roll it becomes my 116 mph trap speed against his 126 mph trap speed. his cars traction problems and my cars great hook up on slicks are no longer a factor. i stand a better chance of getting in BRITTANY SPEARS pants than i do beating JOHN from a roll.



the SI guys's points are valid.



shane

Defintely valid...but like Jeff said, still doesn't change the fact that Rico didn't pull much. I'll say it again...from 45-75mph, i pulled one car length....and when we raced from 20mph or so to 80 or 85mph...he only had 1-1.5 cars on me :)

Thats great that you guys have these high trap speeds...but those are numbers...i'm going from actual experience :)

damn, my flame suit is holding up pretty well so far ;)

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
You trapped only as high as I did on a bad run for me at 2700 feet. My traps are that high up HERE. Yours will not be that high up here, go back to shane's post and read what he is saying....and you will then understand what I am getting at. Whilw this is all getting old it is good fun:)

I realize that. thats why I said to disregard altitude at the time. I know my traps wont be as high and I wont be as fast at bandimere and I clearly stated that in the same post. :rolleyes: what I was saying is that at 2700 ft with traction I "should" be able to get a high 14 with that trap speed.

I did read shanes post and I understand what he is saying. but given the circumstances we cant base anything on what someone should run. Judging but what you guys claim you can run or should be able to run, yes rico should have spanked us both or can spank us from a roll but it is pointless to argue on what should or would have happened when we know what really did happen in the real world. :hat:

[rico_00si]

man, this is some funny shit. we're going in circles here.


jeff i've raced you more than once, now answer this, we raced on academy one night that same week, we took off from the light, I didn't launch on you, you say you didn't either, that's fine. now as i recall what happened in the "real world" that night was that we raced to about 50-60 and i already had at least car on you and was pulling away very hard when i shut down. now this is my question........if i pulled a car at let's say to 60 mph when i shut down and was still pulling, how many cars do you think i'd put on you by the time we got to 90??? i don't think it'd make very much sense to say i'd still only put about 1 or 1.524864 cars on you if i was still pulling away from you easily. all i'm saying is that there seems to be an inconsistency here by me,same thing with ryan the other night, two diff nights, two diff outcomes why i have no idea. but it's all good, i guess from now on i'll have to be consistent in my kills and go all out, through every gear........it's cool though, i know next time we race the outcome will be very different, until then...............this has been beaten to death

[rico_00si]

Originally posted by plug1


haha don't try to back track and say you weren't at WOT that night Jeff, Andy, you and i went out...i know you were pushing it all the way that night! Anyway....that nights a fucking dead horse if i've ever seen one... and some people still don't believe it.

I remember that night after work though, we gunned it from that light...and yes, you did pull. I can fill you up with excuses like my clutch being bad or having my 18's in the back...but i'll just leave you with one excuse:

I knew what happend the last time we raced...so i didn't push my car as hard as i could. "Why be any harder on your vehicle than you need to"? hahah...aren't i allowed excuses too? :p



i never denied not going WOT, i'll admit i did.

i have a bad clutch, we run 10lbs of non intercooled boost. but like you said, that's not the point.


well since i didn't go all out that one night.......hehehe, i guess you didn't go all out this past night, next time we meet, we'll just both have to go all out.......:Beer:

[02GTI1.8t]

yea I recal racing that night no academy. I bogged my launch bad, almost to the point of stalling it:o(my bad), thats a main reason you pulled as hard as you did. but I dont think that race was a very good indication of how fast eachothers cars were and that why we all meet up later that week so we could have a better idea of how fast eachothers cars were. now if that nights results were due to your inconsistancy thats fine....its just a matter of time till we go to the track and work this out.

[SC-MECHAM-WS6]

all right then...soo.......who is faster?

[2000SiVTEC]

I am:)

[rico_00si]

nope..........I AM :fu:


as far as that night on academy, i did say i never launched, i didn't even chirp the tires. you even got ahead by a nose....but it's cool.

[TedR719]

Ok guy get it stright here....

Brian 14.7
Steve 14.9
Rico 14.9
Plug1 16.1
02GTI1.8t 15.4 at sea level

Why don't you German boys come to the track instead of reading my dumb post and come up with some times, all the crying in the world isn't gonna help you at the track :p

I'm tired of hearing that you hanged....why dont you spank them. I "hanged" with steve the other night but does me no good when I run a 15.8 and he runs 14.9....Street racing is on thing but if you wanna talk numbers go to the TRACK!!! and get dynoed.

[02GTI1.8t]

Originally posted by futuresi
Ok guy get it stright here....

Brian 14.7
Steve 14.9
Rico 14.9
Plug1 16.1
02GTI1.8t 15.4 at sea level

Street racing is on thing but if you wanna talk numbers go to the TRACK!!! and get dynoed.

Ive said twice already that we should all go to the track. I personally cant wait to go and clear up some things....

p.s. my 15.4 was at 2700 ft not sea level....but whos being picky;)

[02GTI1.8t]

when Is the first day you guys can all go up to the track? I get back may 13, any time after that I can go. I say we all go up and run so we can compare and there wont be any more excuses.

[plug1]

Originally posted by 02GTI1.8t

p.s. my 15.4 was at 2700 ft not sea level....but whos being picky;)

haha and my 16.1 was last year before a lot of important mods. Hey Ted, if you want to see my "16.1" car i'll show you the ass end anytime you want :Peace:

[2000SiVTEC]

I can go almost any weekend it doesnt matter to me....i know Brian can pretty much go anytime too.......

[rico_00si]

i'm up for this any weekend too........

[02GTI1.8t]

theres a day test on saturday may 18th from 8:30 to 3:00 that I could make if everyone else is down to go. If another day would work better post your suggestions so we can do this.

[TedR719]

Bring it :) Now I know your car is faster than a 16.1 so go out and get a time!


Originally posted by plug1


haha and my 16.1 was last year before a lot of important mods. Hey Ted, if you want to see my "16.1" car i'll show you the ass end anytime you want :Peace:

[TedR719]

Saturday works...I'd love to go run again :)

Originally posted by 02GTI1.8t
theres a day test on saturday may 18th from 8:30 to 3:00 that I could make if everyone else is down to go. If another day would work better post your suggestions so we can do this.

[Brian]

Whenever is good for me guys.......... Oh yeah I have more mods too now :D

[Brian]

By the way a 15.4@2700 feet translates to a 16.1 at this elevation using the official NHRA correction chart.

My 14.7 run translates to a 14.11@103.3 at 2700 feet. Just to give you the idea of what over double the elevation can do :)

[02GTI1.8t]

brian, can you post a link to the NHRA correction chart site. Doesnt the amount of time you loose at altitude depend on a number of things such as if your turboed, and the turbo size, etc..

so is everyone down for may 18 then?

[2000SiVTEC]

sure the 18th works for me as of right now................

Ted it sounds like you have a challenge. Join in and have a little fun:)

[TedR719]

You know that I will be there, as long as I'm not broke :)

Originally posted by 2000SiVTEC
sure the 18th works for me as of right now................

Ted it sounds like you have a challenge. Join in and have a little fun:)