What gun should I get next?

[Dave_L]

Ok, after buying my first gun on Saturday and going shooting yesterday, I decided I love guns. I now need to decide what gun to buy next. So far I've been thinking about an AK-47, AR-15 or a mini-14. I was told that the mini-14's take the same ammo as an AR-15. I dont know if thats true or not. Any input would be great or other suggestions. Im gonna get a shot gun too but those are cheap so I didnt include that. Thanks guys!

[Weston-work]

Not sure what the Mini-14's take (never looked into them), but the AR-15 takes 5.56mm NATO (military caliber) and .223 Remington (what you get at Walmart)... The better AR-15's are chambered for 5.56 and compatible with .223 (possibly slightly reduced accuracy, but I haven't had any issues), and the cheap ones are chambered for .223 and can't fire 5.56 (too much pressure). You can also get different calibers for the AR-15, like 9mm and even .50 cal, but they are hard to come by and non-standard. The gun was originally intended for .308, but the Army wanted 5.56mm/.223 instead. The AR-10 is basically the same thing, but chambered for .308. I prefer .223 myself... it's about 19 cents a round for Winchester 55-grain and is readily available. The equivilent ammo in 5.56mm with a NATO stamp on it is M193, which is about 20 cents per round for Winchester.

Anyway, you are certainly welcome to shoot mine and see how you like it. I'm very pleased with it myself.

[M@]

Other. None... and... return the one you just bought.

"Friend's don't let drunk_Dave_L's buy guns."

[Weston-work]

Also, consider that an AR-15 is going to run you $700+ new (the few that cost less for new ones are not respectable brands, so I wouldn't waste your money on those). The $350 AK-47's that we were looking at during the show were Romainian WASR-10's that were converted to take hi-capacity mags. They appeared to have a single hammer trigger on them, which may have the trigger snap-back problem. You can search Google and get plenty of info and opinions on the WASR-10's. Also, 7.62x39 ammo is a bit hard to come by... You can get it at a show or some gun shops, but it's not something you can just run to Walmart and get. An AK is still definately a cool gun to have in your collection though... it's just more of a collector's piece than something you'd shoot all the time with (it doesn't have great accuracy either).

[WRX Harvey]

I voted ar-15, but I have a sweet Israeli Galil in 5.56 if you wanna spend some real coin for a sweet ar/ak hybrid that outshoots both. Hammer forged barrel, flip up tritium sights. A true rarity since it has been banned from import since the early 90s. But very pricey.

[ChewiSi]

http://www.ralphbaer.com/images/pic%20'221%20rec%20CRt%20light%20gun.JPG

get this one.

Oh and I know nothing about guns,sorry.

[Weston-work]

http://www.ralphbaer.com/images/pic%20'221%20rec%20CRt%20light%20gun.JPG

get this one.

Oh and I know nothing about guns,sorry.

Is that held together with electrical tape!? :rofl:

[ChewiSi]

I actually have no clue, i googled "gun" and it was the weirdest pic that popped up.

[chrisbarnett01]

Mini gatling.

[Kwando]

depends on how much you want to spend...


there are a lot of cool guns... you can get a glock (i'm a glock lover) that you can drop in sand, shoot then freeze it, then heat it and it will still shoot.

an AR15 will run you around $800 (i got my bushmaster for $600). They are a lot of fun, you can buy every part for it if anything breaks. Customizable more than some cars.

AK47, ammo you more than likely have to buy at a gun show. Parts might be hard to come by. But how can you beat a gun that has proven itself in war all these years.

You can go to walmart and get a ruger 10-22 for $200 and play with it all day and not spend no more than $30 on ammo for like 5000 rounds.

but fuck it, just come with us to the COAR15 meet and you can shoot everyones guns. there will be AR15, AR10, rifles, 1022s, handguns, uzi's, and even some .50 cal.

one buy on COAR15 is selling this Watson .50 cal here is a link...

http://coloradoshooting.org/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3280&highlight=

[Ashton]

Since I just got an AR-10 I am trying to sell my AR-15. I will sell it for 800 with the picitanny rail already on it and a hogue grip. or 700 for it without the picitanny rail and grip.

[Weston]

Since I just got an AR-10 I am trying to sell my AR-15. I will sell it for 800 with the picitanny rail already on it and a hogue grip. or 700 for it without the picitanny rail and grip.

How much for your light? What does it mount to, handguard or a rail?

[Ashton]

Oh it also has an aimpoint type scope which is metal and the same thing as the aimpoint pretty much minus a decal. It is included in the 800 price

[Ashton]

How much for your light? What does it mount to, handguard or a rail?

Weston the light went out maybe 10 minutes after we went shooting the last time so I returned it. It was a POS and lost it's zero anyways. It mounted in the rails however it slid on and the plastic was not large enough to make it stay put and keep zero.

OH OH and the light burned out after maybe a whole 2 hours of use? The laser kept working still just wouldn't hold zero.

[Kwando]

ashton wanna trade uppers? i dont like my ycomp
or i will buy your handguards off of you for $100.

[Conrad]

quit being a pussy... I am sure LEO can get the hook up! :rofl:

http://www.uvz.ru/rus/t_72.htm

[Dave_L]

Simon, I just can't decide if I want to buy another handgun or get some sort of rifle. I definitely want some glocks but I just cant decide what order to but these guns in.

[Kwando]

you need at least...

1 handgun
1 rifle
1 shotgun

start there and then add on... since you already have the handgun, get a rifle or shotgun...

[Ashton]

I also have a spare Mossberg 500 with 18.5in barrell and a heat shield 9 round total capacity. asking 250 for it.

[Dave_L]

you need at least...

1 handgun
1 rifle
1 shotgun

start there and then add on... since you already have the handgun, get a rifle or shotgun...

Thats what I'm thinking. My goal is to have 3-4 handguns, AR-15, ak-47, a shotgun or two and maybe another rifle. Just gotta decide the order in which to buy them. :) I might go with the AK for now since its a little cheaper. Ill research some other guns too.

The tanner gun show is in Feb correct?

[Dave_L]

I also have a spare Mossberg 500 with 18.5in barrell and a heat shield 9 round total capacity. asking 250 for it.

Ill keep that in mind. Thanks!

[Ashton]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AshtonMitchell/ar.jpg

[Dave_L]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AshtonMitchell/ar.jpg

Damnt, now I really want it.

[Dave_L]

any pics of the mossberg?

[B20badboy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AshtonMitchell/ar.jpg
I just got a hardon!

[Kwando]

dave here is a pic of that winchester 1300 that my friend is selling...

http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/images/512104m.jpg


here are specs from the site...

The Defender 8-Shot allows you to be prepared for any unseen obstacle that might come your way while in the backcountry. It's easy to pack and carry, and handles both buckshot and rifled slugs easily. The rugged Defender 8-Shot features an eight-shot magazine capacity, 18" cylinder bore barrel, non-glare metal surfaces and a lightweight composite stock and forearm. Choose from the full stock version with a removable front TRUGLO® fiber optic sight, the pistol grip model, or the combo version with both pistol grip and full stock included. The full stock model is available in both 12 and 20 gauge.



i would get it, but i want a ruger 10-22... i can just a shorter barrel for my 11-87

[Robie]

here is my vote...
http://www.ferret50.com/graphics/photos/404017.jpg

[Ashton]

Yeah I have a picture of it. It also comes with a tac grip. I will upload tomorrow though because my ass is tired tonight.

[ryanman]

Get a mini 14 (mine has a folding stock), I use it for everything, ammo is cheap .223 that you can get at walmart or anywhere else, semi auto, can buy anything you want for it aftermarket, alot cheaper then an AR/AK. I have an AK47, use to own an AR15 but I'd rather take my mini 14 with me anywhere I go.

[crxrocks]

What are the CO laws like for private gun sales? I have a Glock 23 that I was thinking about getting rid of and I don't really want to be raped by a dealer.

Chris

[Kwando]

FTF is as simple as you handing the gun over and the other guy giving you cash... if you want you and write a receipt with both parties, date, time and s/n of the gun...


how much are you asking? 3gen G23?

[Weston]

Guess what I just added to the collection...

http://www.TurboLS.net/pics/SW9VE.jpg

:D I opted for the 9mm version... cheaper ammo and it holds 16 rounds instead of 14, plus a little less recoil, just at the cost of being not quite as effective as .40 cal if I need to shoot someone (I'd prefer the AR-15 for that anyway ;) ).

[Kwando]

sweet weston when did you pick it up?


i won't be able to go shooting today... still unpacking and setting up crap...

[crxrocks]

I was just considering it so I hadn't thought about pricing or what the fair market value is of it.

[M@]

You guys sure do spend a lot of money on firearms. Care to donate to the Matt's Car Fund of America? :D

[crxrocks]

You guys sure do spend a lot of money on firearms. Care to donate to the Matt's Car Fund of America? :D

At least they retain their value better than your car! ;-)

[Weston]

sweet weston when did you pick it up?


i won't be able to go shooting today... still unpacking and setting up crap...

Last night at Sportsmans Warehouse... I went there for ammo, but saw that they had a pretty big firearms selection and good prices.

You guys sure do spend a lot of money on firearms. Care to donate to the Matt's Car Fund of America? :D

Sure... I have some lead to "donate". ;)

[M@]

Last night at Sportsmans Warehouse... I went there for ammo, but saw that they had a pretty big firearms selection and good prices.



Sure... I have some lead to "donate". ;)
H8!!

[Kwando]

Last night at Sportsmans Warehouse... I went there for ammo, but saw that they had a pretty big firearms selection and good prices.



Sure... I have some lead to "donate". ;)



sportsman is a great place to buy firearms... i've heard that they price match also... hope the weather holds up for next sat's shoot.

[wild.irish]

you can get a glock (i'm a glock lover) that you can drop in sand, shoot then freeze it, then heat it and it will still shoot.
:werd:
yeah, i love glock too. i would vote akm-47, but you can't get a genuine one here, only some cuban/egyptian replica.

though i found this site http://www.ak47.com/products.asp?cat=10
seem like they have almost true ak 47, only it's called Vepr (russian for wild boar).

[Weston]

:werd:
yeah, i love glock too. i would vote akm-47, but you can't get a genuine one here, only some cuban/egyptian replica.

though i found this site http://www.ak47.com/products.asp?cat=10
seem like they have almost true ak 47, only it's called Vepr (russian for wild boar).

Yeah, it's really hard to find a quality/authentic AK here, and when you do, it's a collector's item and is priced really high. Most of what you'll find in this country are Romainian WASR-10's that were converted to take high-capacity magazines... those go for about $300-$350 new. It's my understanding that they actually have some US-made parts swapped into them because of some legalities with importing/selling them.

[ryanman]

My AK is worth about 2 grand, so I've been told anyways, dunno.

[M@]

My AK is worth about 2 grand, so I've been told anyways, dunno.
Doubtful, knowing you, it's worth.. oh, I dunno.. 2 mil, EASILY.

[ryanman]

Doubtful, knowing you, it's worth.. oh, I dunno.. 2 mil, EASILY.
2 mil? HOLY SHIT BRUTUS!!!!! I've got a fucking GOLDMINE!!!!

[M@]

2 mil? HOLY SHIT BRUTUS!!!!! I've got a fucking GOLDMINE!!!!
Indeed. Now sell it and go find something to buy... ermm.. you already own 1 of everything ever made, including midget blow-up dolls. Ummm, just PayPal what you get from it to me. KTHX!

[ryanman]

Indeed. Now sell it and go find something to buy... ermm.. you already own 1 of everything ever made, including midget blow-up dolls. Ummm, just PayPal what you get from it to me. KTHX!
I don't own one of everything, I got rid of alot of shit when I moved back here. My midget blow up doll popped during the last party. :cry:

[M@]

I don't own one of everything, I got rid of alot of shit when I moved back here. My midget blow up doll popped during the last party. :cry:
Ohnoes!!1 So what's next on your list of one of everything to buy?

[ryanman]

SRT8 Grand Cherokee - 1 month til it gets here.

[M@]

SRT8 Grand Cherokee - 1 month til it gets here.
:rolleyes:

[ryanman]

:rolleyes:
420hp/420tq, pulls .9 g's on the pad, 13.5 ~ 1/4 mile, AWD, 0-60 in 5 seconds, Brembo brakes, fully loaded, etc. Gonna be a nice Jeep.

[M@]

13.5 at sea level. Try running that in Colorado. Not bad for an SUV, none the less.

[ryanman]

I live at sea level cracker. Actually my house is 65ft asl.

[M@]

I know, dummy.

[Brandon]

http://blake.prohosting.com/cbac/SS100.gif

[M@]

http://blake.prohosting.com/cbac/SS100.gif
You suck at t3h int3rw3b.

[crxrocks]

Gonna be a nice Jeep.

He said "nice" and "jeep" in the same sentence.

Actually I wouldn't mind having a SRT8 either.

[Kwando]

i'd rather take the trailblazer ss...

[ryanman]

It'll walk all over that pos Trailblazer SS, and last a hell of alot longer. We all know GM's reputation for making "quality cars", bwhahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!

[Kwando]

buy me a trailblazer ss and we can race

[Weston]

Back on topic... the only place of cars in this thread is for target practice.

[ryanman]

buy me a trailblazer ss and we can race
They've already ran em against each other, the Jeep walked the SS. Besides I don't have any money to buy you one, I'm probably barely gonna be able to get the Jeep.

[Kwando]

Back on topic... the only place of cars in this thread is for target practice.



who wants to donate a car???? what would be fun... dave said he has 4 integra doors...

[Kwando]

sweet shooting videos...


check out the single action gun... the large propane tank... and the auto 10-22



http://www.geocities.com/kvincen1/Bang_Stuff.html

[xmerklex]

m-4's are nice tact rifles too...

[xmerklex]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/AshtonMitchell/ar.jpg


is this still for sale?

[Kwando]

so who plans on going shooting sat??? i hope it gets warmer than 40

[Weston-work]

so who plans on going shooting sat??? i hope it gets warmer than 40

Well, that depends on if you guys are going to flake out on me again. ;)

[Dave_L]

Well, that depends on if you guys are going to flake out on me again. ;)

I blame football! :)

[Kwando]

Well, that depends on if you guys are going to flake out on me again. ;)



i had to move... and i figure since you guys didn't text or call you weren't going...

[Weston-work]

i had to move... and i figure since you guys didn't text or call you weren't going...

Nah, I just slept in until noon-ish that day. I think Dave did the same.

[Kwando]

started soaking the phone books tonight... they will be ready this sat...

http://photos.imageevent.com/kwando/shootingstuff/large/Image_056_.jpg

here is my can full of .223 ammo.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kwando/shootingstuff/large/Image_048_.jpg

[Ashton]

I will be at the shoot with some toys =)

[robstamina]

trap at cherry creek? I will be there like I am every weekend...Kwando lets go.. got 2 perfect rounds out of the 4..going to Kiowa Creek in a week or two...

[M@]

What's soaking phone books do?

[Weston-work]

What's soaking phone books do?

It makes them more human-like. You shoot them, then you can see how the bullet expanded and/or fragmented.

[Nightfall]

You're at work Weston?

Edit: Mike... Blue Pages FTW! ;)

[Weston]

You're at work Weston?

No. Someone just voted, which bumps the thread back into the "New Posts" with the vote time/date, and it makes it look like the last poster did that.

[Nightfall]

i r teh suck at teh interweb

1/19/06....

[Weston]

Edit: Mike... Blue Pages FTW! ;)

Mike?

[Nightfall]

*shrug* apparently there is more than one Weston then.

Mike Weston/Boulder/Contr/IBM@IBMUS

[Nightfall]

Or i'm an even bigger Torrenne and you're name doesn't even have weston in it.

[Weston]

*shrug* apparently there is more than one Weston then.

Mike Weston/Boulder/Contr/IBM@IBMUS

Nope, not me. My first name is Weston. My short name is westonp. My Blue Pages record is a bit out of date though... still says I work in 6, even though I haven't for a year and a half.

[Kwando]

i'm drunk

[Nightfall]

i'm at work :(

[oldskoolracer]

+1

GUns are relaxing

[Dave_L]

+1

GUns are relaxing

:werd:

[Kwando]

dave, jon and i are going to eagle firearms grand opening this sat... they claim they are having a huge grandopening sale for CO residents.

[Dave_L]

dave, jon and i are going to eagle firearms grand opening this sat... they claim they are having a huge grandopening sale for CO residents.

I do need some more clips....

[Weston-work]

So do I, but I'm going the the COREP3 dyno day instead... Tuning my ignition map so I don't blow the motor on the road course is a bit more of a priority...

[Kwando]

I do need some more clips....



it's mags!


you might want to call them... they specialize in AR's so they might not have your S&W mags.

[Weston-work]

Clips... mags... same thing

[mirror]

dave, jon and i are going to eagle firearms grand opening this sat... they claim they are having a huge grandopening sale for CO residents.
yep going to buy me an AR. What time do you want to head up there?

[Dave_L]

Any idea on the price of these AR's?

[Kwando]

Stag Arms M4 Lower 1/2 - with 6 Position Stock
$225.00

RRA CAR A4, Chrome Moly, 1/9 Twist, No-Ban Model, 16" Flattop Upper Assembly
$409.00

= $634

or

Stag Arms M4 Lower 1/2 - with 6 Position Stock
$225.00


Complete upper receiver assy with bolt/carrier and charging handle
$399.00


= $624




add the maybe 10-15% off for grand opening... not a bad price for a new assult rifle...

[Kwando]

yep going to buy me an AR. What time do you want to head up there?



i don't know... depends on how trashed i get tomorrow night with Chom... you and sirimast going?

[mirror]

yeah for a but we probably won't stay that long.
They posted their address and time they open. I'm planning on leaving my house around 8, to get up there at a good time, then head out to the shoot.

[Kwando]

i don't think i can wake up at that time... i'll prob head up there myself later in the morning... i have to meet someone that is going to buy my ipod anyway