Are you a fast guy or just an idiot?

[Weston-work]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=106488

Yet another reason why drifting is a joke...

[chrisbarnett01]

Turning is for Nascar,

[em2Greg]

"After wimping out in the fast parts, the idiots attempt to overcompensate in the slow parts."

ha ha, that is me at autox. Slow in the slaloms and then screeching my tires around the tight turns

[-=[Juztin]=-]

drifiting is fun! When the actual high power cars run for like a whole 3 minutes while your standing out there in the sun w/ nowhere to sit for like 5 hours

[em2Greg]

=-']drifiting is fun! When the actual high power cars run for like a whole 3 minutes while your standing out there in the sun w/ nowhere to sit for like 5 hours

Dont forget all the male flesh and tattoos that you get to see in the crowd, and their scary looking, underage girlfriends. :)

[stu]

One day Weston will understand drifting, and how this article has nothing to do with it.

[Weston-work]

One day Weston will understand drifting, and how this article has nothing to do with it.

I do understand drifting... there are two types of drifters... those who know it's just stuff that looks cool, and then there are the idiots who actually think it's fast or some "racing technique". Unfortunately, the idiots represent the majority.

[stu]

I've never once heard anyone who thought that drifting was fast. Maybe that's where my confusion comes in.

[chrisbarnett01]

It's faster on gravel.

[Weston-work]

I've never once heard anyone who thought that drifting was fast. Maybe that's where my confusion comes in.

Meet some more ricers and I promise you that you will... I remember Ashton's friends talking about having a highway run once... when it was mentioned that there were curves, they broke into a whole bragging-fest about how each one of them was the best drifter of all. :rolleyes: It's probably good that they were all talk, no walk, though... I would have crashed from laughing so hard as I blew by all of them. Given that my exit speed on that particular turn is 130+, it wouldn't have been a fun experience.


It's faster on gravel.

Of course, but that's a whole 'nother ball game.

[Robie]

they broke into a whole bragging-fest about how each one of them was the best drifter of all. I would have crashed from laughing so hard as I blew by all of them. Given that my exit speed on that particular turn is 130+, it wouldn't have been a fun experience.
you sure you didn't join in on that bragging-fest? ;-)

[chrisbarnett01]

Of course, but that's a whole 'nother ball game.

technically auto racing is not a ball game.

[Weston-work]

you sure you didn't join in on that bragging-fest? ;-)

Nah, I just laughed to myself. It would ruin the fun if I told them that they were idiots... they needed to be shown that they are idiots. Ok, well I did tell one of them that he was an idiot, but that's because he said he'd beat me because he has AWD. :rofl:

[Kinematics]

You need to meet some people into drifting that aren't idiots sometime. Most legitimate people I know into it, know it isn't the fastest way around a corner, and that it's just something to do for fun, and can still be a useful driving technique, and helps you learn how to control your car at its limits and beyond.

The only real people I've ever see hate on drifting are people with FWD vehicles. Sounds like a real case of inadequecy if I ever heard one.

Making fun of something that requires car control and different techniques makes YOU the ricer, not the person doing it. ;)

[David]

yeah, Emerson Fittipaldi is such a ricer

[Nightfall]

You need to meet some people into drifting that aren't idiots sometime. Most legitimate people I know into it, know it isn't the fastest way around a corner, and that it's just something to do for fun, and can still be a useful driving technique, and helps you learn how to control your car at its limits and beyond.

The only real people I've ever see hate on drifting are people with FWD vehicles. Sounds like a real case of inadequecy if I ever heard one.

Making fun of something that requires car control and different techniques makes YOU the ricer, not the person doing it. ;)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[M@]

+1.. good read.

[Weston-work]

You need to meet some people into drifting that aren't idiots sometime. Most legitimate people I know into it, know it isn't the fastest way around a corner, and that it's just something to do for fun, and can still be a useful driving technique, and helps you learn how to control your car at its limits and beyond.

The only real people I've ever see hate on drifting are people with FWD vehicles. Sounds like a real case of inadequecy if I ever heard one.

Making fun of something that requires car control and different techniques makes YOU the ricer, not the person doing it. ;)

I don't have a problem with people who are actually skilled at drifting (yes, I know that there are a handful of them out there)... it's not my cup of tea, but my problem with drifting is mostly the "culture" of idiots surrounding it, and that's who I'm making fun of all the time. Maybe I shouldn't make fun of retarded people, but I just can't help myself when they get so cocky with their complete ignorance.

As for the FWD thing, the FWD crowd has plenty of it's own ricers that are all about drifting. Perhaps they feel sad because they can't do a "true" drift, but I personally make an effort to avoid going sideways, seeing as how that's a pretty effective way to throw a good lap time into the toilet.

[Weston-work]

yeah, Emerson Fittipaldi is such a ricer

:rofl: Well, he is, according to the noobs who think that road racing is all about going "balls out" and pushing as hard as you can.

[Brian]

I've never had a problem with drifting. It takes skill to do properly just like anything else. Do I consider it a sport? I don't know, probably more like an ard exhibition event. I've never heard anyone claim it was "fast" or anything like that, but there are idiots in every form of motorsports.

[Zach]

some kid at my school tried to convince me that drifting started in japan as some sort of accident prevention driving technique. seems to me that threshold braking and heel-toe downshifting would be much more effective than slamming the throttle and making the car go sideways.

the only problem i have with drifting is almost every idiot who has a 240 thinking he is the shit and powersliding it around every turn on public roads.
dont get me wrong, i love the 240, and i really wanted one before SCC published their flat black silvia project. from there stuff kind of hit the fan. but now i dont really want to be associated with the whole "drifting" thing.

ps, he also tried to convince me that it was faster around a course. to which i replied "so why dont F1 cars do it?" and he said "the drivers probably arent as good as the drifters in japan" i almost lost my lunch laughing.

[David]

"drifting" is fun and all, but it's just really overrated. When people start building dedicated drifting cars and start to make movies about it, you know its out of hand.

[now everybody werd me]

[Weston-work]

some kid at my school tried to convince me that drifting started in japan as some sort of accident prevention driving technique. seems to me that threshold braking and heel-toe downshifting would be much more effective than slamming the throttle and making the car go sideways.

the only problem i have with drifting is almost every idiot who has a 240 thinking he is the shit and powersliding it around every turn on public roads.
dont get me wrong, i love the 240, and i really wanted one before SCC published their flat black silvia project. from there stuff kind of hit the fan. but now i dont really want to be associated with the whole "drifting" thing.

ps, he also tried to convince me that it was faster around a course. to which i replied "so why dont F1 cars do it?" and he said "the drivers probably arent as good as the drifters in japan" i almost lost my lunch laughing.

Yeah, I feel sorry for the non-dumbass 240 owners these days, especially with the new F&F movie coming out. But I hope that we can at least use this as an opportunity to get rid of some of the idiots that make up the Honda/Acura "scene", because we have too many and there seems to be a lot of openings for idiots in the 240 and drift crowds.

[Weston-work]

Drifting just seems like one of those "future sports" you and your friends came up with when you were 8. I mean, hitting rocks with a spoon into a cup was plenty fun, but it doesn't make it a sport.

:rofl: You guys really didn't have much to do in Elizabeth, did you? :rofl:

[David]

I edited that post because it was retarded (like drifting, ZING!) like 2 minutes ago, what gives weston?

[Weston-work]

I edited that post because it was retarded (like drifting, ZING!) like 2 minutes ago, what gives weston?

:rofl: I know. I just had a better reply for the original version than I did for the new one.

[Kinematics]

I am also of the belief that grip driving is a lot more fun and more technical than drifting, but I can appreciate talent when I see it.

Drifting in Japan started back in the 60s and 70s when people were trying to go fast in the mountains, opening up the throttle early coming out of a corner and sliding the exit just a bit. People would get higher horsepower cars as they become more powerful through the years, and start holding the drifts longer, until eventually it migrated its way onto the track.

Also, the most technical motorsport on earth, rally, is entirely based around sliding your car. Rally, to me is the most amazing motorsport out there, and I would love to eventually be able to get into it on a local level. There are plenty of hillclimb and rally events here and on the western slope.

[David]

Too bad WRC doesn't come on tv anymore :(

[Ferret]

Drifting sure does come up a lot on here.

[Brian]

I just don't understand the big debate, then again i've never seen anyone try to drift on a public road, nor have I heard anyone even talk about it outside of a forum.

[Weston]

I just don't understand the big debate, then again i've never seen anyone try to drift on a public road, nor have I heard anyone even talk about it outside of a forum.

Well, it's not really a debate... saying that drifting is fast is like saying that driving drunk enhances safety... it's so ignorant that you can't even argue it. Anyway, consider yourself lucky. I have a feeling that after F&F 3 comes out, you'll encounter your share of it and find yourself wanting to just punch these ricers in the face for being such fucktards.

[Kinematics]

Well, it's not really a debate... saying that drifting is fast is like saying that driving drunk enhances safety... it's so ignorant that you can't even argue it. Anyway, consider yourself lucky. I have a feeling that after F&F 3 comes out, you'll encounter your share of it and find yourself wanting to just punch these ricers in the face for being such fucktards.

It's a good idea to consider oversteer A technique, not THE technique. ;)

[Brian]

I agree that the movie will make the idiots come out en mass. I just hope none of them powerslide into my car.

[Nightfall]

I agree that the movie will make the idiots come out en mass. I just hope none of them powerslide into my car.
:werd: I might drive a 206k mile CRX but i'd still be pissed.

[Weston]

It's a good idea to consider oversteer A technique, not THE technique. ;)

The induced oversteer that's sometimes used in road racing is a world of difference from drifting... it's so minor that it often takes a trained eye to even notice it from outside of the car, and it's also not power-oversteer.

[Ferret]

I don't think there are any ricers on here with a RWD car anyway, so isn't this all kinda preaching to the choir?

[Weston]

I don't think there are any ricers on here with a RWD car anyway, so isn't this all kinda preaching to the choir?

chris_venturini, Kwando, Juztin, BluByU, etc., are all ricers here who have RWD cars. :D Oh, and Kinematics too... ;)

[David]

The induced oversteer that's sometimes used in road racing is a world of difference from drifting... it's so minor that it often takes a trained eye to even notice it from outside of the car, and it's also not power-oversteer.
It starts minor, but before you know it you're doing some of those middle eastern 360s on the track just to impress the 'ladies'.

[Weston-work]

I pulled off one of those bad boys in my del sol getting onto an on ramp the other day, nearly shat myself. I now know why they tell you to accelerate through the corner...

Lift-throttle oversteer > you ???

[David]

once again:

I edited that post because it was retarded (like drifting, ZING!) like 2 minutes ago, what gives weston?

[Weston-work]

David... stop posting something and then changing it completely, because people are going to reply to it before you're done editting. You know that we all have nothing better to do than sit on HAI all day.

[David]

But I always come up with much wittier things to say after I make my post - I just have to go back and change it