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servion
06-02-2005, 04:42 PM
For those of you who have not heard of it yet, basically its a modification of a stock OBD1 honda ECU that is nothing short of incredible. Here's some informative links:

http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptunefeatures - Complete feature list
http://www.evans-tuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1242
http://neptune.evans-tuning.com/ - The NepTune forums

Neptune has some incredible features. The highlights include:

- User configurable (on the fly) 2-step launch control. It will do anti-lag launch control as well (which will allow you to build bost extremely fast off the line for you turbo guys). You can switch between standard 2-step and 2-step with anti-lag launches by simply crossing a throttle position threshold. This is great for drag racers who want to just use the regular 2-step until you're fully staged and then lay into the throttle and use the antilag just before the launch.
- Full throttle shift control
- Full nitrous control. You can optionally switch between the maps tuned with and without nitrous with the press of a button (which can also arm the system). NepTune will trigger your nitrous solenoids when a set of defined conditions are met such as min/max RPM, min/max load, minimum speed and minimum TPS
- Spray control
- Boost control. Neptune will trigger boost controllers to switch to different boost settings at a certain vehicle speed, RPM and/or throttle position. This can be optionally toggled on and off with a switch. Many people are using this to switch from low to high boost once they reach a certain speed. Coming soon will be the ability to control a boost solenoid. What this means is that you will actually be able to use neptune to do all your boost control without an external boost controller.
- Boost cut
- A full compliment of fuel and ignition correction maps
- Startup (cranking) maps so you can get the car to start beautifully with any size injectors. Neptune is successfully controlling precision 1600cc injectors with a stock idle on more than one vehicle
- Individual cylinder trims (which is great for getting that completely uniform burn between cylinders)
- Radiator fan control
- Ability to switch maps. This means that you can use a button (the A/C button is popular) to switch between a pump gas tune and a race gas tune
- Supports map sensors from stock all the way up to 5 bar
- Excellent TPS/MAP based map switching for the ITB guys (this is absolutely incredible if you want to run ITBs)
- Gear based fuel and ignition trims
- Extremely high resolution between breakpoints (which are all tuner-adjustable) which allows for tuning in the areas you need it most.
- Traction control is in the works. Keep an eye out for this one: its going to be excellent.

NepTune is also constantly being improved: the support is absolutely excellent. NepTune comes with free datalogging software (which is extremely capable) for those of you who would like it (available for both Windows and Mac). It requires no additional hardware (outside of a chipped honda ECU with a datalogging cable). For anyone currently using other management systems that are based off of a honda ECU, your existing ecu will work fine. The chipping hardware is identical to that of other systems such as Crome, Uberdata and Hondata.

NepTune is spreading like crazy in other parts of the country, and now its available to Colorado enthusiasts as well. It is designed to be cheaper than comparable engine management systems with more functionality. The pricing is a package bundle (set at a flat rate) which includes both the license to use NepTune (including all of its features) and the tuning labor (street and dyno for your first appointment). The only other cost a user must cover would be the actual dyno time as well as any additional services (such as chipping your ECU if you don't want to do it yourself or debugging other issues with your setup which are not related to tuning). I highly recommend DynoWerx (www.dynowerx.com - good people with a nice dyno) in Colorado Springs, but we can use the dyno of your choice.

As far as my tuning abilities go, I am EFI101 certified, AEM EMS Factory Trained and officially NepTune licensed (http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptunetuners). Just for fun, here is a dyno of the latest car that I've tuned (using a different system before I was a NepTune dealer) on pump gas here in Colorado Springs:

Sleeved GSR, t3/t4e 57 trim:
http://www.hondaracingcrew.com/HRC/components/com_forum/files/josh-457_846.jpg

(Watch out for this one: I'll give you a hint: it's got 4 doors!)

Feel free to PM me or email me at servion@hondaracingcrew.com for pricing information or to set up an appointment. Keep an eye on http://www.serviontuning.com for additional information as well as dyno graphs from other NepTuned cars in your area.

Conrad
06-02-2005, 06:29 PM
I am very interested in this since your friend never sold me his EMS. Can you PM me prices and details

Thanks
Conrad

HONDA GHANDI
06-02-2005, 10:09 PM
No power til 6k eh? Must be a big hairdryer on that bad boy. Do you have the software yet J? Im still working on gettng a copy and toying around with it on the civic.

servion
06-03-2005, 10:34 AM
I just ran through all of it last night, and I'm extremely impressed. The featrues are excellent and the software layout is top-notch. It's a breeze to work with... no crashing or anything like the stuff you have to deal with when using uberdata and what not

mrchris1979
06-03-2005, 05:14 PM
Did you get the e-mail I sent you?

servion
06-03-2005, 05:18 PM
I replied to all my emails... did you not get a response? Please email me again at servion@hondaracingcrew.com or PM me.

mrchris1979
06-03-2005, 07:11 PM
I did not get a response. Resent E-mail. Thanks.

I replied to all my emails... did you not get a response? Please email me again at servion@hondaracingcrew.com or PM me.

kevino002
06-04-2005, 11:53 AM
that is some cool stuff, I wish I wasnt full comited to hondata I would love to give Neptune a shot.

HONDA GHANDI
06-04-2005, 12:30 PM
Now the guys at Neptune wont let me get a copy of the software to try. :( I guess you beat me to it Servion, they dont want more than one dealer in a given area.

oldskoolracer
06-04-2005, 10:03 PM
hope to be talking to you soon

mrchris1979
06-05-2005, 01:46 AM
Damn, that sucks Tobi. The Neptune looks like a great alternative to the AEM EMS for our ZC project. You and Servion should colaborate and make up a good plan for the Neptune.

Now the guys at Neptune wont let me get a copy of the software to try. :( I guess you beat me to it Servion, they dont want more than one dealer in a given area.

HONDA GHANDI
06-05-2005, 02:04 AM
Well I am not sure of his plans to become a vendor here or not and if Neptune will eventually release the software to me. For now though they do not want too many tuners out there for some reason. To me that seems silly, if you are 500 miles from a tuner and only 50 miles from a Hondata tuner the choice would be simple.

servion
08-04-2005, 11:31 PM
Here's a really simple car I did just this week... GSR built motor with a standard revhard turbo and a ghetto log manifold.

14psi

http://www.hondaracingcrew.com/HRC/components/com_forum/files/larry_930.jpg

Aracheon
08-05-2005, 09:11 AM
Holy shit... nice numbers.

When is HRTuning going to be releasing the next version of NepTune where the end-user will have tuning capability?

servion
08-05-2005, 11:51 AM
We're all waiting on that one... you'll know as soon as I do. Unlike the s200, there will be an upgrade available for existing NepTune users :)

rmcdaniels
08-05-2005, 01:13 PM
How does it compare to a S300?

http://www.hondata.com/s300.html

HONDA GHANDI
08-05-2005, 02:59 PM
The hondata is realtime updatable via USB cable and has onboard Datalogging.
The Neptune has yet to announce the release date of the same thing. For now you are stuck burning chips still.

Slava
08-05-2005, 03:31 PM
When is Hondata supposed to come out?

servion
08-05-2005, 08:41 PM
The new s300 basically catches Hondata up with the existing NepTune. The new NepTune will have realtime tuning and datalogging via a single usb cable plus more :)

NepTune is currently realtime updatable... all the cars that I tune on the street don't need to be shut off for any changes at all. The only time I burn a chip is when the tune is finished.

Zach
08-05-2005, 08:44 PM
how does it compare to K-Pro?

servion
08-05-2005, 08:54 PM
They are different systems... the s200/s300 and NepTune are for OBD1 ECUs only. The K-pro is for the newer ECU's (RSX'es, etc.)

The s300 is supposed to be very similar to k-pro (expect obviously for obdI ecu's). See my above post for s200/s300 vs NepTune :)

Zach
08-05-2005, 09:29 PM
oh, ok. i didnt know that neptune was only for obd1 ecu's.

HONDA GHANDI
08-05-2005, 11:23 PM
The new s300 basically catches Hondata up with the existing NepTune. The new NepTune will have realtime tuning and datalogging via a single usb cable plus more :)

NepTune is currently realtime updatable... all the cars that I tune on the street don't need to be shut off for any changes at all. The only time I burn a chip is when the tune is finished.


Let me clarify. I do the same for the existing Hondata S systems. You just need the correct equipment to do so. The S300 will not need any equipment other than a laptop and USB cable. No burning chips plus continously updated software like K-Pro. So far the software looks good.

I will have 2 units of the S300 in stock on Monday morning Slava, but one of them is sold and I think one will go in the race car for some testing fo the software with my new wireless wideband.