why srt4 owners are gay

[Drew303]

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132618

[Mario]

Nothing personal against SRT owners... but a lot of them seem to be way too cocky. I love those cars to death, very respectable numbers and when lightly modded they look great. But I can NOT stand most SRT owners. They just think they got the world by it's balls cuz they have a 225whp car... can't wait till my 2000lb car has the same horsepower they do, start settin these fuckers in place. ;)

[-=[Juztin]=-]

i beat one, which means they are even slower! :)

[Weston-work]

Well, that's because those cars are marketed to young people with not much money who want a fast car right out of the box. It's no surprise that they have become the next DSM.

[Dave_L]

All i have to say is.........its still a neon

[Mario]

All i have to say is.........its still a neon

And my car is still just a Civic... ;)

[Dave_L]

Civic>neon

[STIBungy]

I used to have a Stu Thompson bmx bike like that. Of course, I took all the padding and stickers off of it. :D

[Steve_C]

All i have to say is.........its still a neon
typical bmw owner :rolleyes:

:D

[RiceBurner00]

you people kill me

if your precious civic produced the same numbers itd be bragged upon, but since its a neon....and not a civic...its so gay

[RiceBurner00]

you guys are acting just like those fags on the neon forum, thinking your shit dont stink

[chris_venturini]

civics, neons, and buicks..... all for gays

[RiceBurner00]

^^^ very true, every type of car has its gays


nissans are extremely gay though

[Weston-work]

Well, I don't know about Buick... "old and impotent" is more fitting.

[Dave_L]

My shit doesnt stink. Its German ;)

[chris_venturini]

nissans are extremely gay thoughsee my sig? i rest my case.

[RiceBurner00]

Well, I don't know about Buick... "old and impotent" is more fitting.


it might be your daddys car but its not your daddy weston

[nxbrennan]

those numbers are so inaccurate too, in SCC and magazines of the like, they get around 250, not 228 hp

[sbiggi]

thats funny.... I think almost all the neons I saw at Bandimere where running 14's, so were the EVO's ;ScratchHe

but the modded Neons were still running 14's, the evo's were running 12's
tractions a bitch isnt it ;NutKick;

not that I'm biased or anything :)

[STIBungy]

You biased? Naw!

[95GSRB18C]

i ran a 13.7 last year with only $200 in mods. now that i have more, i am hopin for a low 12. I dont know how that isnt respectable...

[Mario]

IMO, the car is nothing but respectable. The cocky owners drive the shit out of me...

[95GSRB18C]

yea i hear ya. all the guys i know are pretty nice guys and dont seem cocky (up here in the thornton area) but im not too sure about any of the other ones.

[Deltron_3030]

check out this video clip: Evo VS Ferrari http://www.cafeboba.com/jeebs-evo-vs-ferrari.wmv

[Weston]

check out this video clip: Evo VS Ferrari http://www.cafeboba.com/jeebs-evo-vs-ferrari.wmv

Either the Ferrari wasn't really racing (likely), or that Evo was far from stock, because a stock Evo is suh-low.

[2000SiVTEC]

Pretty sure the Ferrari wasn't really trying. Especially after the 100 mph mark......

[Deltron_3030]

heres his mod list http://www.cardomain.com/id/nocturnalevo

[redb20teg]

that's gay when he says he's a ferrari killer

[b16efhatch]

The cars in the background were keeping up, considering the guy said he was doing 130??Didnt seem like 130 to me.

[Weston]

:werd:

[Skaterkid]

you guys are acting just like those fags on the neon forum, thinking your shit dont stink
STFU, you're the same way with your T-Type and Aurora. Give me a fucking break.

[Weston]

STFU, you're the same way with your T-Type and Aurora. Give me a fucking break.

:werd: He goes around telling everyone how great it is. :rolleyes:

[STIBungy]

Pretty nice to you. How about to people with other cars?

yea i hear ya. all the guys i know are pretty nice guys and dont seem cocky (up here in the thornton area) but im not too sure about any of the other ones.

[RiceBurner00]

STFU, you're the same way with your T-Type and Aurora. Give me a fucking break.

do I make a post saying..........look at these fags who drive these cars so I can have other people agree with me

whenever my car is brought up, most of the time its someone saying Buicks suck because I offended them, I dont care.

and for the record its T-Type and Camry 8)

[David]

all cars are gh3y

[srt4s, buicks and Nissans more so than others]

[Skaterkid]

do I make a post saying..........look at these fags who drive these cars so I can have other people agree with me

whenever my car is brought up, most of the time its someone saying Buicks suck because I offended them, I dont care.

and for the record its T-Type and Camry 8)
Yes you do. You trash talk imports whenever you can and anyone who doesn't drive a T-Type.

[RiceBurner00]

Yes you do. You trash talk imports whenever you can and anyone who doesn't drive a T-Type.

I didnt :cry: even trash talk imports in this thread, just some :cry: of the owners

yea I trash talk :cry: everyone who doesnt have my car :cry:

I just bought an import numb nuts

[B20civic]

no gayer than dsm nazis

[chris_venturini]

lets gay bash on something we can all agree about, like semis..... ;)

[95GSRB18C]

Pretty nice to you. How about to people with other cars?

they've been cool to all other people too. you cant judge all srt4 owners by some idiot posting it on a forum.......
that doesnt mean that i dont like evos or dont respect them, because i do. I just dont go around and say shit like that. i respect all cars from imports to domestics.

[JL LGT]

I honestly haven't seen how potent the SRT4 is in person. Guess I need to get my lazy ass up to Bandi this year huh?

Hmmm..... I wonder what the LGT will pull in.

[Conrad]

im not going to read this whole thread..... but i would drive an SRT-4

[taikahn]

I'd put my 200whp civic up against one of those piles of shit anyday. Win or no win, its a neon.

Tai

[RiceBurner00]

I'd put my 200whp civic up against one of those piles of shit anyday. Win or no win, its a neon.

Tai

if its just a piece of shit neon you should have no problem, silly bitch

[WRX Harvey]

i ran a 13.7 last year with only $200 in mods. now that i have more, i am hopin for a low 12. I dont know how that isnt respectable...

Wow, that is a tall order. What have you done to it to shave off a second and a half? Also, by saying you are going to run a low 12, and then demanding respect for that, you are missing a BIG point. Reputations are built on things we have done, not what we say we are going to do. I have run a 12.683@110. The car is way different now, but I am not going to say I run 11s and demand you kiss my ass. I do respect a 13.7 with only 200$ in mods, the rest is flatulence until proven. Good luck. Might I reccomend nitrous?

I really like the SRTs.

Those folks on the SRT forum are talking stock for stock, so let em keep their cars stock. They just better not line up against me. I have been pulled on by very few cars, but one of them was an SRT, definitely not stock.

[taikahn]

Wow, that is a tall order. What have you done to it to shave off a second and a half? Also, by saying you are going to run a low 12, and then demanding respect for that, you are missing a BIG point. Reputations are built on things we have done, not what we say we are going to do. I have run a 12.683@110. The car is way different now, but I am not going to say I run 11s and demand you kiss my ass. I do respect a 13.7 with only 200$ in mods, the rest is flatulence until proven. Good luck. Might I reccomend nitrous?

I really like the SRTs.

Those folks on the SRT forum are talking stock for stock, so let em keep their cars stock. They just better not line up against me. I have been pulled on by very few cars, but one of them was an SRT, definitely not stock.'

The SRT4 can be fast thats for sure. If it wasn't a dodge neon, I'd consider the car.

... but yeah $200 into a GSR does NOT get you into the 13's ...

[Conrad]

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The SRT4 can be fast thats for sure. If it wasn't a dodge neon, I'd consider the car.

... but yeah $200 into a GSR does NOT get you into the 13's ...

my stock gsr in an eg hatch is almost in the 13s.... well skunk2 intake

[taikahn]

my stock gsr in an eg hatch is almost in the 13s.... well skunk2 intake

Stripped EG's weigh quite a bit less... and that swap wasn't $200. ;)

[maz087]

i think they are the best bang for the buck. esp at 20k

[taikahn]

i think they are the best bang for the buck. esp at 20k

Yep if only it wasn't a dodge.

[RiceBurner00]

Dodge came out with some of the most powerful cars over the years

each company has its pros and cons.....sure a honda is more reliable than a dodge, its like that because Dodge spends more time and money working on ways to have a car perform better than think of ways for a person to save a buck.

That is the only reason why I really dont like the idea of people turning there hondas into race cars, but if you just wanna add some power to your daily driver, then hondas are ok I guess.

I have seen some very quick hondas at the track and the nightmares of money costs that were put into it.

[Zach]

^^^ have you heard of a thing called VTEC? im pretty sure honda put way more money into developing power out of small engines while still making it reliable than dodge ever will. really im not suprised that the SRT4 makes the amount of power that it does, it really doesnt take that much to do it. look at any of the guys running stroked b20 turbos, hell those things make like 350whp reliably.

[Zach]

so what im basically trying to say is. it doesnt take much to get decent power out o fan engine that is .8 liters bigger than the competition, especially when they are running turbo and honda is still n/a.

[RiceBurner00]

if its so easy why hasnt honda matched the competition on power

and yes I heard of the V-tec

[Steve_C]

cocky srt owners remind me of cocky z owner on here. one who says only bmw that can beat him is e46 ///M3.

[fantasya98]

if its so easy why hasnt honda matched the competition on power

and yes I heard of the V-tec

just wait, japan lifted their 280hp law

[RiceBurner00]

lol ok, any more excuses

[fantasya98]

lol ok, any more excuses

so, you're saying this law which kept the supra and skyline sold at 280hp, is an excuse for inferior engineering in japan? :rolleyes:

[Dave_L]

cocky srt owners remind me of cocky z owner on here. one who says only bmw that can beat him is e46 ///M3.
WHO SAID THAT!

[Steve_C]

ZEE lucky motor. i didn't want to get in an arguement that e36 m's will hang with it, euro e36 m's will whoop it, 330 will hang with it, zhp will whoop it, e46 m's will kill it, e39 540/6 will murder it, m coupes and m roadsters will whomp it. but i didn't feel like argueing with magazine racer

[Dave_L]

ZEE lucky motor. i didn't want to get in an arguement that e36 m's will hang with it, euro e36 m's will whoop it, 330 will hang with it, zhp will whoop it, e46 m's will kill it, e39 540/6 will murder it, m coupes and m roadsters will whomp it. but i didn't feel like argueing with magazine racer
LOL i cant believe he said that. What was his fastest time when he was stock? Looks like ill have to go Z hunting this summer and let him know whats up.

[Conrad]

you cant even compare honda engineering vs dodge....

Look at the power output of the engine... not the bolt ons...

Honda puts out engines that are OVER 100HP per liter of displacement all motor....
I dont know of too many other engines that do that..

Because honda hasnt jumped on the bandwagon to make a boosted version of the civic yet.. give it time.

I think honda did far more then engineer towards reliability!

[Steve_C]

you cant even compare honda engineering vs dodge....

Look at the power output of the engine... not the bolt ons...

Honda puts out engines that are OVER 100HP per liter of displacement all motor....
I dont know of too many other engines that do that..

Because honda hasnt jumped on the bandwagon to make a boosted version of the civic yet.. give it time.

I think honda did far more then engineer towards reliability!
bmw and toyota also has engines that meet the 100hp/liter bench mark.

honda cappucino, life and mugen beat. :king: 3 cylinder turbo'd 89 hp of fury

[Dave_L]

bmw and toyota also has engines that meet the 100hp/liter bench mark.

honda cappucino, life and mugen beat. :king: 3 cylinder turbo'd 89 hp of fury
THe e46 M3 did hit the 100 hp/liter mark. 3.2L and 333 hp. Lets not forget that the torque is also at 262 ft/lbs :)

[RiceBurner00]

you cant even compare honda engineering vs dodge....

Look at the power output of the engine... not the bolt ons...

Honda puts out engines that are OVER 100HP per liter of displacement all motor....
I dont know of too many other engines that do that..

Because honda hasnt jumped on the bandwagon to make a boosted version of the civic yet.. give it time.

I think honda did far more then engineer towards reliability!

No, look at the car as a whole, power output per liter really doesnt cut it, because bigger engines tend to win more races.

Honda hasnt jumped on the bandwagon? DUDE LOOK OUTSIDE, TV, ANYWHERE

but when they do make a turbo civic it will all of a sudden be "a great idea" instead of......oh there just joining the bandwagon like you said

[Steve_C]

THe e46 M3 did hit the 100 hp/liter mark. 3.2L and 333 hp. Lets not forget that the torque is also at 262 ft/lbs :)
i know, that's why i listed bmw. and the euro e36's already hit that bench mark. 3.2L, 321 hp. go high revving engine with ITB

[Dave_L]

i know, that's why i listed bmw. and the euro e36's already hit that bench mark. 3.2L, 321 hp. go high revving engine with ITB
I <3 BMW

[RiceBurner00]

hondas are good for reliability, along with toyota

let them stick to those type of cars...

[Aracheon]

bmw and toyota also has engines that meet the 100hp/liter bench mark.

The 2ZZ-GE. 1.8L, 180hp.

Lotus used that exact same engine in the Elise for it's weight, changed the 6-speed's gearing and altered the ECU program to make it output 190hp.

Not bad for one of Toyota's first all-aluminum engines that only weighs 63 pounds.

[celica man]

http://www.wardsauto.com/ar/auto_muscle_economy_ways/index.htm

[Conrad]

hondas are good for reliability, along with toyota

let them stick to those type of cars...

show me a car with the same performance as a integra type R?????

110 HP per liter of displacement??? That is higher then any other car you will find under 100K!

[Conrad]

hondas are good for reliability, along with toyota

let them stick to those type of cars...

In 91 when honda released the NSX with VTEC...... The entire auto market moved towards valve timing!

Now every company has their own flavor all based on VTEC including dodge!!!

[RiceBurner00]

ok stop blowing honda, its not 1991, its 2005

the first car was domestic, who gives a fuck

[Conrad]

No, look at the car as a whole, power output per liter really doesnt cut it, because bigger engines tend to win more races.

Honda hasnt jumped on the bandwagon? DUDE LOOK OUTSIDE, TV, ANYWHERE

but when they do make a turbo civic it will all of a sudden be "a great idea" instead of......oh there just joining the bandwagon like you said

look at the car as a whole???

Hmmmm

reliability
great performance
stylish
highest resale value for almost 20 years straight

[celica man]

http://www.opelclub.com.tw/p1-news/200403-3.htm

112 hp per liter

[RiceBurner00]

show me a car with the same performance as a integra type R?????



are you mental?

[Conrad]

Dodge came out with some of the most powerful cars over the years

each company has its pros and cons.....sure a honda is more reliable than a dodge, its like that because Dodge spends more time and money working on ways to have a car perform better than think of ways for a person to save a buck.

That is the only reason why I really dont like the idea of people turning there hondas into race cars, but if you just wanna add some power to your daily driver, then hondas are ok I guess.

I have seen some very quick hondas at the track and the nightmares of money costs that were put into it.

i think this was the lack of intelligence comment that i was looking at.

type r all motor = 220
neon all motor= 123
neon with boost.... hmmmm 240 ???

[RiceBurner00]

look at the car as a whole???

Hmmmm

reliability
great performance
stylish
highest resale value for almost 20 years straight


performance, the ability to turn it into a race car

if you wanna do some cute mods to your civic daily driver to spice it up a little bit, but I am tired of talking to someone who doesnt even race

[Conrad]

are you mental?

show me where dodge is making this crazy investment into performance? if you realize how an engine worked maybe you would see that hondas are technologically way more advanced then all domestics!

[Conrad]

performance, the ability to turn it into a race car

if you wanna do some cute mods to your civic daily driver to spice it up a little bit, but I am tired of talking to someone who doesnt even race

show me a comparitive car to the type r??? all motor 2 liter engine???

[RiceBurner00]

like I said hondas, toyotas, all those kind of cars are very reliable, but when you look to put your money into for racing, its not worth it

[celica man]

ok kids.....good times

http://www.funbike.com/YZF-R6-03.htm

200 hp per liter

[Conrad]

performance, the ability to turn it into a race car

if you wanna do some cute mods to your civic daily driver to spice it up a little bit, but I am tired of talking to someone who doesnt even race

are these not the same cute mods that dodge stuck on a car to make it so you could be fast just like little johnny honda because you didnt know how to do it yourself???

[RiceBurner00]

show me where dodge is making this crazy investment into performance? if you realize how an engine worked maybe you would see that hondas are technologically way more advanced then all domestics!

did I say they make a crazy investment into performance?

lets see a 5.0 500 horsepower 4 cylinder engine from honda, not to mention *non turbo*

oh wait the country wont allow it........scratch that one

[Conrad]

like I said hondas, toyotas, all those kind of cars are very reliable, but when you look to put your money into for racing, its not worth it


Hmmm

Servions boosted civic 524 HP and runs 10s all for about 13K

New SRT-4 230HP and runs 15s maybe 14s with a half decent driver 19 to 24K


hmmmm I would bet money the honda would outlast the neon

[Skaterkid]

Some of us road race here Ricetool. There a honda can be quite competitive to Camaros and Corvettes. An S2000 with some mild mods can easily keep track. Here's a thought though, your obviously adding nothing to this board, get the fuck out.

[RiceBurner00]

are these not the same cute mods that dodge stuck on a car to make it so you could be fast just like little johnny honda because you didnt know how to do it yourself???
little johny honda?


for the best buy for the buck, srt-4 is where it is at, plain and simple, especially if you strictly race

dont you mean little chin wang honda?

[Conrad]

did I say they make a crazy investment into performance?

lets see a 5.0 500 horsepower 4 cylinder engine from honda, not to mention *non turbo*

oh wait the country wont allow it........scratch that one

5.0 bwahahahahahahahahaha show me other then a 90K car that will have 500 hp

[Conrad]

honda had a dual overhead cam in 88... took dodge almost 12 years to copy!!!!!

[RiceBurner00]

Dodge Viper, Mustang cobra with some mods, vette with little mods

[Conrad]

mustang with mods riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... 500 hp mustang that would still run 13s BWAHAHAHAHA

[Skaterkid]

Dodge Viper, Mustang cobra with some mods, vette with little mods
Only affordable if your making a lot mroe cash than a lot of us.

Then a 350Z with a TT kit or a SC'd NSX, or a Twin turbo Z or Supra can handle them.

[RiceBurner00]

Some of us road race here Ricetool. There a honda can be quite competitive to Camaros and Corvettes. An S2000 with some mild mods can easily keep track. Here's a thought though, your obviously adding nothing to this board, get the fuck out.


I never said they couldnt beat a stock camaro or vette with mods, it can be done, if you wanna spend more money

my whole arugment is that with a honda you will spend more money

I never said anything about hondas being limited to going fast, it will just cost

[RiceBurner00]

mustang with mods riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... 500 hp mustang that would still run 13s BWAHAHAHAHA

13s?


dude this is so comical, I am starting to like this chat

[RiceBurner00]

Only affordable if your making a lot mroe cash than a lot of us.

Then a 350Z with a TT kit or a SC'd NSX, or a Twin turbo Z or Supra can handle them.


I was just naming cars well under 90k

[Conrad]

ha ha viper.... 8.27 liters of displacement and 90K

for a car that is slower then a boosted civic!!!! There has really got to be some real performance in these domestics somewhere come on man... use your brain.

[RiceBurner00]

the 350z with a TT kit wouldnt be worth the money when you could have something much faster for the price, same for the nsx with the SC

[Conrad]

I never said they couldnt beat a stock camaro or vette with mods, it can be done, if you wanna spend more money

my whole arugment is that with a honda you will spend more money

I never said anything about hondas being limited to going fast, it will just cost

yes it would cost less then an srt-4 to make a honda faster then a viper!

[sbiggi]

Horsepower per liter is gay..... yay 100 hp and 2 liters, who cares! Thats 200hp ;SwallOw:

I'll quote some elses sig.....
"Slow is slow. What's the point of making more hp/liter if you're still going to be slower. It's as stupid as saying that having a 2 inch weiner doesn't matter as long as you can hold a woody for 10 hours."

[Skaterkid]

the 350z with a TT kit wouldnt be worth the money when you could have something much faster for the price, same for the nsx with the SC
Like what a Viper? No. You'd have to spend about the same amount of Cash to make a Mustang or Camaro as fast. Corvette? No. Your putting out ridiculous BS

[Conrad]

Horsepower per liter is gay..... yay 100 hp and 2 liters, who cares! Thats 200hp ;SwallOw:

I'll quote some elses sig.....
"Slow is slow. What's the point of making more hp/liter if you're still going to be slower. It's as stupid as saying that having a 2 inch weiner doesn't matter as long as you can hold a woody for 10 hours."

he was saying that dodge is more performance... doesnt seem they are too advanced in the search of speedier engines... tech wise they older and less sophisticated...

sure you can go to the dealer and buy a 500 hp dodge for 90 K

my honda can do it way more effiently!

[RiceBurner00]

Horsepower per liter is gay..... yay 100 hp and 2 liters, who cares! Thats 200hp ;SwallOw:

I'll quote some elses sig.....
"Slow is slow. What's the point of making more hp/liter if you're still going to be slower. It's as stupid as saying that having a 2 inch weiner doesn't matter as long as you can hold a woody for 10 hours."

thank you

[RiceBurner00]

he was saying that dodge is more performance... doesnt seem they are too advanced in the search of speedier engines... tech wise they older and less sophisticated...

sure you can go to the dealer and buy a 500 hp dodge for 90 K

my honda can do it way more effiently!

Tell the boys at honda to compete with the srt-4 then

[RiceBurner00]

and for the record I would never own a viper, too much money

the nsx is just as bad except it has half the numbers

[Conrad]

Tell the boys at honda to compete with the srt-4 then

They do.... steph papadakis beats them every year!

[Conrad]

and for the record I would never own a viper, too much money

the nsx is just as bad except it has half the numbers

and people buy them because they arent made for speed.....

[Conrad]

For the money.... you cant make anything faster then a honda

[Conrad]

ok im done arguing with a redneck child..... I have to go to the auto shop and work on my broke ass domestic

[Steve_C]

srt4 = cheap thrill
it's like picking up a working girl on east colfax for your steady girlfriend. might be fun for awhile, but you sure you'll still be around in 2 years?

[RiceBurner00]

yea ok buddy

[RiceBurner00]

srt4 = cheap thrill
it's like picking up a working girl on east colfax for your steady girlfriend. might be fun for awhile, but you sure you'll still be around in 2 years?
haha

[Jackrabbit]

Gheyest thread ever.

[Zach]

ok stop blowing honda, its not 1991, its 2005

the first car was domestic, who gives a fuck
the first car was a domestic eh? god you are retarded, the first car was built in germany idiot, buy Daimler Benz. im pretty sure german cars arent domestics. and if you are talking about ford, you are even more retarded. he was the first guy to do the assembly line, not the car. i nominate ricebitch for HAI idiot hall of fame.

[s92dx]

This thread is retarded, some cars are better for some reasons, some for others, and some people are going to like different ones, can't we all just get along...

But this post takes the cake for the most retarded:
For the money.... you cant make anything faster then a honda
You can still have a relatively cheap, quickish civic. But it's still gonna be a gutted tin can that I wouldn't trust to get in ANY accident. Give me you're 10 second civic on the track and I'll give you a high 12 second honda on the street. Unless you want to drive around with giganto slicks on you're front tires making it near impossible to turn especially cause you removed your power steering to clear your turbo and engine swap. An easy 12 second mustang at the track will own you on the street.

Don't get me wrong I drive a Civic, and think they're good little cars. But people who make statements like that just piss me off.
I also found it funny about the guy with the EP3 saying "It's still a neon". Just about anyone I know whether they know anything about cars or not has absolutely laughed at any Ep3 they've seen on the street. They're like Minivans with all their drawbacks and none of their benefits... But if you like that car more power to you, most people I know think regular old neons look about 5 times better than Ep3s, but still drive what you want.

[Boosted Wagon]

so riceburner tell me this..if the hondas arent good track cars then tell my why the FASTEST SPORT COMPACT...(i say sport compact because now dodge neon, chevy cobalt, etc are in these classes) IN THE WORLD is a honda civic...steph papadakis is all i have to say...
Just think for a second...this 6 cyl honda is running 6's...and might i add not on nitro fuel...think of the popssibilities still to come to the sport compact world....could it maybe be a possibility that a 6cyl honda on nitromethane fuel be aboe to hang with a......also nitromethane 500CI blown domestic drag car...hmmmm something to think about

[David]

this thread made me ashamed to own a honda :(

[smithz]

This thread made me ashamed to be reading this thread...

[Conrad]

I apologize for my heated discussion... I was in a bad mood.... BWAHAHA

[Deltron_3030]

the first car was a domestic eh? god you are retarded, the first car was built in germany idiot, buy Daimler Benz. im pretty sure german cars arent domestics. and if you are talking about ford, you are even more retarded. he was the first guy to do the assembly line, not the car. i nominate ricebitch for HAI idiot hall of fame.
lol OWNED

[Steve_C]

i apologize for my posts to this thread.....i'm sexually deprived





okay, no i'm not. i just like being a prick

[Conrad]

i apologize for my posts to this thread.....i'm sexually deprived





okay, no i'm not. i just like being a prick


kidney punches dont count as sexual activity steve

[Steve_C]

kidney punches dont count as sexual activity steve
they do if you get off on it ;)

[STIBungy]

I think this is Drew's way of venting after getting whooped by an SRT-4.

[2000SiVTEC]

For the money.... you cant make anything faster then a honda


I can't believe I just read that...................

[LeonZ]

I think I'd buy a SRT-4 if I didn't have the WRX. Of course, there is no way I would keep that car as a daily driver after like 2 years, sorry - Dodges lose their value really fast and I wouldn't wanna drive a Dodge with 70K miles. That's just asking for a weekly repair bill.

[maz087]

my next car will probably be a WRX, but im still planning on keeping my civic for sentimental value and just because it takes a good beating.

[Zach]

this thread makes me want to go out and drop a K24 into my car, turbo it, and beat the hell out of this guy to show him what 2.4 liters of turbo honda is like.

[Zach]

i bet that car would whoop up on almost all the cars out there. especially with kpro and some headwork.

[David]

or you could buy Cuba with the money it would cost you to do that.

[Zach]

ive seen it done for less than the cost of a srt4.

[maz087]

"i need nos, and i need to by tonight"

[RiceBurner00]

lol OWNED


lol yea, I was just talking stupid facts because 94hatch kept on saying

in 1988 honda came out with the dildo insertion seats

I was just having fun, but yea I was stumped on that fact 8(

[RiceBurner00]

so riceburner tell me this..if the hondas arent good track cars then tell my why the FASTEST SPORT COMPACT...(i say sport compact because now dodge neon, chevy cobalt, etc are in these classes) IN THE WORLD is a honda civic...steph papadakis is all i have to say...
Just think for a second...this 6 cyl honda is running 6's...and might i add not on nitro fuel...think of the popssibilities still to come to the sport compact world....could it maybe be a possibility that a 6cyl honda on nitromethane fuel be aboe to hang with a......also nitromethane 500CI blown domestic drag car...hmmmm something to think about


DUDE YOUR MISSING MY POINT, I never said hondas CANT become race cars, it will just cost them more money IMO, and with what s92dx said


Plus Civics have been around a lot longer than srt-4s and cobalts

but yea I am thinking about the possibilities, you got me there....no other cars will become better over the years than a honda, idiot

[Conrad]

I can't believe I just read that...................

Key Phrase = For the money!!!!

[RiceBurner00]

this thread makes me want to go out and drop a K24 into my car, turbo it, and beat the hell out of this guy to show him what 2.4 liters of turbo honda is like.


dont waste your time lol..........seen faster with less money spent

[David]

because everybody knows the faster a car is, the better it is.

Fuck padded seats

[chrisbarnett01]

hahahahahahahahahah

You idiots keep arguing about who's car is gayer.

[Steve_C]

both cars are gay cause it's proven that bmw owners get more sex. besides, the flintstone's car kicks ass. end of discussion

hahahaha

[B20civic]

lets gay bash on something we can all agree about, like semis..... ;)
be my guest.

[taikahn]

if its so easy why hasnt honda matched the competition on power

and yes I heard of the V-tec

My friends ep3 is a 2.0 liter with out any real exhaust ivtec ... only intake side cams change. Anyway, with stock internals and a 9psi cybernation kit put down 313 whp.... enough to slaughter sti's, srt4's, z06's and just about anything else he runs into, he has let to lose in it. (16k for the car, 4k for a turbo and what nots = 20k srt eater)

Honda's new engine make a ridiculous amount of power when properly boosted. All the srt4 has going for it is the turbo, the warranty and the price are already part of the purchase.

Tai

[smithz]

My friends ep3 is a 2.0 liter with out any real exhaust ivtec ... only intake side cams change. Anyway, with stock internals and a 9psi cybernation kit put down 313 whp.... enough to slaughter sti's, srt4's, z06's and just about anything else he runs into, he has let to lose in it. (16k for the car, 4k for a turbo and what nots = 20k srt eater)
^^^ I saw this dyno and he isn't making it up...

[RiceBurner00]

^^^ I saw this dyno and he isn't making it up...


ok chill out lovers


I spent about 9k on a car that runs 11s and its not even heavily modded so what?


a friend who has a 9 second mustang is selling his for 7k?

your numbers arnt going to impress me

[RiceBurner00]

in 2 years the srt-4 will be worth like 10k right? since the resale value is so low on dodges

[Conrad]

ok chill out lovers


I spent about 9k on a car that runs 11s and its not even heavily modded so what?


a friend who has a 9 second mustang is selling his for 7k?

your numbers arnt going to impress me

why dont you post your numbers

[Steve_C]

in 2 years the srt-4 will be worth like 10k right? since the resale value is so low on dodges
that is if the srt4 remained stock and only had 3k miles. if it had even 24k miles, you'll be lucky to get 7k.

[RiceBurner00]

7k then, even better

[STIBungy]

I'd pick up a used stock one for that price in a heartbeat.

[taikahn]

ok chill out lovers


I spent about 9k on a car that runs 11s and its not even heavily modded so what?


a friend who has a 9 second mustang is selling his for 7k?

your numbers arnt going to impress me

And your POS "fast" cars aren't go to impress me. Touche. There's more to a car then 1/4 ET's.

Tai

[RiceBurner00]

not when there cars are strictly race cars idiot, this whole argument is based on race cars, not daily drivers, so the only thing that really matters is speed

Im not talking about a speedy daily driver

[taikahn]

W.

[RiceBurner00]

?

[smithz]

not when there cars are strictly race cars idiot, this whole argument is based on race cars, not daily drivers, so the only thing that really matters is speed

Im not talking about a speedy daily driver
^^ Displays intellegence... or lack thereof.

There appears to be no end to the level of gh3yness he can achieve. Skies the limit chief. Now...

STFU

As many have said before... this is getting fucking old. Go argue about religion or politics... we don't give a fuck what you think dipshit.

[RiceBurner00]

^^ Displays intellegence... or lack thereof.

There appears to be no end to the level of gh3yness he can achieve. Skies the limit chief. Now...

STFU

As many have said before... this is getting fucking old. Go argue about religion or politics... we don't give a fuck what you think dipshit.

if you didnt care you wouldnt have made a thread about this thread saying how gay it is, if you dont care,

then shut the fuck up

[smithz]

Wow that was almost like a real english sentence.... I only care because you are spouting worthless propaganda like a 5 year old. When you learn to debate like an adult come on back. Fucking tool.

[Conrad]

+100

[Aracheon]

Wow that was almost like a real english sentence.... I only care because you are spouting worthless propaganda like a 5 year old. When you learn to debate like an adult come on back. Fucking tool.


+1

[RiceBurner00]

Wow that was almost like a real english sentence.... I only care because you are spouting worthless propaganda like a 5 year old. When you learn to debate like an adult come on back. Fucking tool.

keep on debating about other things that are non-racing, because you know I am right. When you ever get a race car, tell me how much you care about anything else, but speed. The whole time I was just saying that it will be more money racing with a honda, but you little bitches cry about it because Paul Walker told you differently.

[smithz]

First of all whatever the fuck you are "arguing" is unclear by your muddled sentences and complete lack of ability to form a complete thought. Let's just conclude with this.

Speed = money. How you do it is personal preference. Everyone is going to do it how they want regardless of what you say. You opinion is fine. So is everyone elses. Noone is right and noone is wrong. Now give up the ridiculous idea that you are somehow going to instill you opinion upon everyone else and just relish in the fact that you are capable, although barely, of even forming an opinion. Now just run along sonny and go buy a grammar book.

[RiceBurner00]

I forgot this was english class, pussy

I am glad my opinion, no wait, my poor grammar gets on your nerves lol

[Boosted Wagon]

so riceburner tell me this..if the hondas arent good track cars then tell my why the FASTEST SPORT COMPACT...(i say sport compact because now dodge neon, chevy cobalt, etc are in these classes) IN THE WORLD is a honda civic...steph papadakis is all i have to say...
Just think for a second...this 6 cyl honda is running 6's...and might i add not on nitro fuel...think of the popssibilities still to come to the sport compact world....could it maybe be a possibility that a 6cyl honda on nitromethane fuel be aboe to hang with a......also nitromethane 500CI blown domestic drag car...hmmmm something to think about
hahahaha the shit i say when ive been drinking....damn

[RiceBurner00]

speed does equal money, but if you wanna spend more money to still get beat in races, then by all means have fun and goodluck to you.

[Drew303]

I think this is Drew's way of venting after getting whooped by an SRT-4.
ummm no ive raced some at bandimere and they were running mid 14's. Ive never lost to a srt4

[smithz]

I forgot this was english class, pussy

I am glad my opinion, no wait, my poor grammar gets on your nerves lol
You talk alot of shit. Maybe it's because you are in another state. Go find a PA forum fuckhole, you aren't welcome.

Someone BAN this asshat.

[RiceBurner00]

lol.......someone is getting moody. Want another bottle smittay

Ban me for what? Not getting brainwashed by Honda Racing?

[smithz]

Moody? Ha, no fuckstick. How can someone who lacks a brain be brainwashed...

[fantasya98]

I forgot this was english class, pussy

I am glad my opinion, no wait, my poor grammar gets on your nerves lol

well, first you argue that japanese cars have inferior technology, then how they dont make enough power, now its "race car only, i never talked about daily drivers". You went from better bang for the buck, to better bang for the buck "race only" stop changing your argument.

[smithz]

Take your "less money to make fast" Buick and go back to preschool...

[RiceBurner00]

well, first you argue that japanese cars have inferior technology, then how they dont make enough power, now its "race car only, i never talked about daily drivers". You went from better bang for the buck, to better bang for the buck "race only" stop changing your argument.

I thought we were talking about race cars the whole time, but when somebody was just talking about there daily driver, I added in "race car only". I'm not changing my argument.

[Boosted Wagon]

so what is the fastest srt-4 to date??? and what is the fastest honda to date??? thats your answer to which is a better race car???? am i correct??

[smithz]

so what is the fastest srt-4 to date??? and what is the fastest honda to date??? thats your answer to which is a better race car???? am i correct??
Not really, because now the little kiddie is going to start arguing about how much money it takes...

There is no logical approach to convincing this dipshit to shut the fuck up.... unfortunately.

[RiceBurner00]

so what is the fastest srt-4 to date??? and what is the fastest honda to date??? thats your answer to which is a better race car???? am i correct??

that is not my argument, it depends how much you spend on a car, which IMO it will cost more money to race with a honda

plus the srt-4 just came out a couple years ago, give it time

"think of the possibilities" just like you said lol

[smithz]

well, first you argue that japanese cars have inferior technology, then how they dont make enough power, now its "race car only, i never talked about daily drivers". You went from better bang for the buck, to better bang for the buck "race only" stop changing your argument.
So it looks like I'm not the only one that recognizes he's talking complete bullshit...

[RiceBurner00]

Lets say you were limited to money, and you wanted the fastest car possible.

If you were smart about it, it wouldnt be a honda. If you are in denial like smittay then you deserve to get beat

[Boosted Wagon]

Lets say you were limited to money, and you wanted the fastest car possible.

If you were smart about it, it wouldnt be a honda. If you are in denial like smittay then you deserve to get beat
lets look at pang for example, running stock motor, turbo kit, and hondata...honda civic hatch and he ran 12.2, and he spent less than the price of a new srt-4 neon...and stock those are in the 14's, so how can you argue with that??

[smithz]

Lets say you were limited to money, and you wanted the fastest car possible.

If you were smart about it, it wouldnt be a honda. If you are in denial like smittay then you deserve to get beat
:rofl: more "logic"

Everyone does speed differently... get over yourself and grow up.

[RiceBurner00]

like Steve C said, in 2 years srt-4 will be worth 7k

your gonna spend more money with any compact, but the srt-4 IMO is a good buy

I wouldnt get it for a daily driver, I wouldnt mod any of my daily drivers

If I had to get a compact for a race car it would be a used srt-4.

How much did pang spend on his car? what year is it? how much did he spend on mods?

I spent altogether about 9k on my Buick and it runs 11s, not even healivy modded yet.

[RiceBurner00]

:rofl: more "logic"

Everyone does speed differently... get over yourself and grow up.

your right. but its easier in certain cars

[Conrad]

your right. but its easier in certain cars

OK your right.... all us import guys are wrong... damn!!

[Boosted Wagon]

like Steve C said, in 2 years srt-4 will be worth 7k

your gonna spend more money with any compact, but the srt-4 IMO is a good buy

I wouldnt get it for a daily driver, I wouldnt mod any of my daily drivers

If I had to get a compact for a race car it would be a used srt-4.

How much did pang spend on his car? what year is it? how much did he spend on mods?

I spent altogether about 9k on my Buick and it runs 11s, not even healivy modded yet.
its a 96 hatch...he will have to reply to the exact amounts on each and i just talked to him and hes gunna post the #'s
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=507797

[RiceBurner00]

OK your right.... all us import guys are wrong... damn!!

not at all......I just think its cheaper the other way

nobody is wrong

[Steve_C]

blah blah blah. all this talk. i'm gonna buy a prius, and start modding that shit. when gas prices get so high, that all the srt4 owners sell their cars for metros. my prius will own all

[RiceBurner00]

its a 96 hatch...he will have to reply to the exact amounts on each and i just talked to him and hes gunna post the #'s
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=507797

sweet car

[Conrad]

Lets say you were limited to money, and you wanted the fastest car possible.

If you were smart about it, it wouldnt be a honda. If you are in denial like smittay then you deserve to get beat

Not to trash your idea.... but what is your idea of a cheap race car... you building of course... I always thought it was fairly cheap to make a honda fast... honestly this is what im looking at right now...

95 civic si - cost me 1600 sold the engine for 500 so end all 1100
95 gsr motor - 2000
sent to darton to sleeve 1000
internals 1000
ems 800
turbo and components 3500 ( i like the good stuff)

all that for less then 10K and i have a 12 second no prob car..

[RiceBurner00]

blah blah blah. all this talk. i'm gonna buy a prius, and start modding that shit. when gas prices get so high, that all the srt4 owners sell their cars for metros. my prius will own all


thats why I bought a camry, I love it

pretty quick for 6 cyl money saver

[RiceBurner00]

Not to trash your idea.... but what is your idea of a cheap race car... you building of course... I always thought it was fairly cheap to make a honda fast... honestly this is what im looking at right now...

95 civic si - cost me 1600 sold the engine for 500 so end all 1100
95 gsr motor - 2000
sent to darton to sleeve 1000
internals 1000
ems 800
turbo and components 3500 ( i like the good stuff)

all that for less then 10K and i have a 12 second no prob car..

then go for it man, but you will have to replace more parts including the tranny

Honda trannys are a little weak, no offense

[Conrad]

then go for it man, but you will have to replace more parts including the tranny

Honda trannys are a little weak, no offense

replace it with what... servions has a honda tranny and he has 524hp
or are you talking about those 800 hp honda engines need new trannys?

[smithz]

I spent altogether about 9k on my Buick and it runs 11s, not even healivy modded yet.
Riiiiiight. Lets see the ticket...

You spend $9K on a buick... now your argument makes complete sense. A Buick is a good race car that you can make fast for only $9K. So sorry to have ever doubted you oh omnipotent one...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[STIBungy]

http://www.beergoggles.org/mwsoc/temp/tehbeast.wmv <- right click and save as

replace it with what... servions has a honda tranny and he has 524hp
or are you talking about those 800 hp honda engines need new trannys?

[Aracheon]

I wouldnt get it for a daily driver, I wouldnt mod any of my daily drivers

Your car isn't reliable enough to modify and have it be your daily driver.




I spent altogether about 9k on my Buick and it runs 11s, not even healivy modded yet.

We're happy for you. Really. Congratulations. I'm trembling in my little space boots in fear of your 11 second Buick. Let's see that thing keep up with some of our better AutoX drivers on a course or at, say, Second Creek.

[Skaterkid]

Straight line only cars rule! :rolleyes:

[Aracheon]

Straight line only cars rule! :rolleyes:

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. :D

[smithz]

Your car isn't reliable enough to modify and have it be your daily driver.
Aracheon -> ;NutKick; RickFuck000000

[Boosted Wagon]

ok well in your profile it shows you have a best ET of 12.25 and pang has a best of 12.3 but there is a catch...did you run that time at 6000ft above sea level??? so that means you have a 13sec car for 9k...not that impressive...not talking shit just stating that its way harder to get a god ET UP HERE then it is down there...

[smithz]

ok well in your profile it shows you have a best ET of 12.25
Hahaha.... ;OwnEd; him in a lie. DIdn't he say 11s car? Funny how he thinks these numbers should be rounded.... down.

[Aracheon]

ok well in your profile it shows you have a best ET of 12.25 and pang has a best of 12.3 but there is a catch...did you run that time at 6000ft above sea level??? so that means you have a 13sec car for 9k...not that impressive...not talking shit just stating that its way harder to get a god ET UP HERE then it is down there...


;OwnEd;

[Conrad]

+200 :)

[David]

Straight line only cars rule! :rolleyes:
is there any other kind? :rolleyes:

[Steve_C]

left turning cars are almost as good as straight line cars

[RiceBurner00]

Hahaha.... ;OwnEd; him in a lie. DIdn't he say 11s car? Funny how he thinks these numbers should be rounded.... down.

I didnt update my profile because I didnt care too

I did spend 9k on my 11 second buick, 1986 Buick Regal T-Type is another name for the Grand National, it runs 13.8 stock (and not in pa either)

I got it cheap from a friend who was selling it to get a mustang for about 5k

[RiceBurner00]

Your car isn't reliable enough to modify and have it be your daily driver.





We're happy for you. Really. Congratulations. I'm trembling in my little space boots in fear of your 11 second Buick. Let's see that thing keep up with some of our better AutoX drivers on a course or at, say, Second Creek.

Buicks are one of the most reliable cars dipshit, just because its American, doesnt make it unreliable. I had it daily driven for about 2 years when I got it. The only thing the car needed to replace were the tires (especially the 2 back ones). A 13 second daily driver is fast enough for me not to modify.

your happy for me? well thanks for the sarcasm asshole, I was just giving you morons a little information, but when someone talks about (insert honda drivers car info here) everyone blows a load because its one of there brands making some good timing, and not a Buick

[RiceBurner00]

Straight line only cars rule! :rolleyes:

you are such a little pussy, no really, you are....is this your time of the month little pussy?

So what if I like to drag race?

[chrisbarnett01]

hahahahahahahahaha

+2

[2000SiVTEC]

Key Phrase = For the money!!!!


I can't believe I am getting in on this. You said for the money you can't make ANYTHING faster than a Honda. FI you really believe that you are an ass clown. For the same amount of money it costs to make a Honda "fast", fast being a relative term, you could make a late 80's early 90's 5.0 faster than most anything you see on street.

I've been down the Honda road and it was not cheap to get my car to the 14's, let alone faster. My VW was a hell of a lot cheaper to get to the same point. You boy racers need to pull your heads out of your asses.......

[LeonZ]

you are such a little pussy, no really, you are....is this your time of the month little pussy?

So what if I like to drag race?

d00d dont pay attention to these pussies. Everyone knows that the faster your car goes in a straight line with a 2 speed automatic, the bigger your penis is.

[RiceBurner00]

thanks guys for some real input coming from the import side

I had these Vinny D Wannabes

[2000SiVTEC]

Not to trash your idea.... but what is your idea of a cheap race car... you building of course... I always thought it was fairly cheap to make a honda fast... honestly this is what im looking at right now...

95 civic si - cost me 1600 sold the engine for 500 so end all 1100
95 gsr motor - 2000
sent to darton to sleeve 1000
internals 1000
ems 800
turbo and components 3500 ( i like the good stuff)

all that for less then 10K and i have a 12 second no prob car..


See you are not taking into account the kind of money it is going to take you to tune it. And no offense, but you still have a car that is ten years old and cost you $10K.

I guess my point is that I can't understand how the civic guys can sit here and say, "it's still a neon" , you guys drive civics. Honda Civics, the car that is in the exact same class as the neon! All I can say in no matter how fast it is, "it's still just a civic", how does that feel?

Another thing is mod for mod the factory turbo car is going to be more reliable than the turbo civic. And I have been in this scene for a while and I am yet to see a turbo honda that does not have it's fair share of problems, even when done properly.........There is so much in this thread that is dumb, including the hp/L argument, that is so 90's. :)

[Steve_C]

There is so much in this thread that is dumb, including the hp/L argument, that is so 90's. :)
new argument is hp/mpg :)

[RiceBurner00]

See you are not taking into account the kind of money it is going to take you to tune it. And no offense, but you still have a car that is ten years old and cost you $10K.

I guess my point is that I can't understand how the civic guys can sit here and say, "it's still a neon" , you guys drive civics. Honda Civics, the car that is in the exact same class as the neon! All I can say in no matter how fast it is, "it's still just a civic", how does that feel?

Another thing is mod for mod the factory turbo car is going to be more reliable than the turbo civic. And I have been in this scene for a while and I am yet to see a turbo honda that does not have it's fair share of problems, even when done properly.........There is so much in this thread that is dumb, including the hp/L argument, that is so 90's. :)

+69

[nxbrennan]

well reading through all of this, im just gonna put in my 2 cents, i would much prefer a "race car" that can be used on multiple type of racing, dragging is cool, but being able to turn is cooler..... and fuck the 8.3 V10

[RiceBurner00]

d00d dont pay attention to these pussies. Everyone knows that the faster your car goes in a straight line with a 2 speed automatic, the bigger your penis is.

I'll settle for the automatic 10incher :)

[Pang]

then go for it man, but you will have to replace more parts including the tranny

Honda trannys are a little weak, no offense

Honda trannys weak? They have been proven Good enough for 9 second passes all day long.

From reading your post, looks like you have no idea what you're talking about. Get a clue, get some experience before you talk.

[JL LGT]

15 pages.....wow!

+3!

[Pang]

We got my buddy's black hatch in the picture running consistent 12's last saturday at bandimere, 12.3 @ 116 his best. Guess how much money he has into the entire car..........try 2000.00
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODc4MzI5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODc4MzMwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[David]

15 pages.....wow!

+3!
and 7 of those pages are you idiots posting '+1'

[Pang]

what the hell is this + crap? lol

[fantasya98]

what the hell is this + crap? lol

+1

[chrisbarnett01]

Weaksauce pang.

Where was he for GRM challenge?

[Pang]

GRM challenge?

oh yeah the Teg in the middle put down 354hp on 10psi :)

feeling like a whore today, heres another ...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODc4NDg2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[RiceBurner00]

Honda trannys weak? They have been proven Good enough for 9 second passes all day long.

From reading your post, looks like you have no idea what you're talking about. Get a clue, get some experience before you talk.

They are weak according to some of the guys who I talked to. Also, when I was looking for a daily driver, I was going to consider a newer Honda. I chose a camry, because of a lot of reviews I have read said that they have tranny issues.

ok ill get a clue and a 12 second honda....it will only cost me 2k.

[chrisbarnett01]

Grassroots Motorsports(GRM) is a magazine, they have an event every year for cars costing less than the amount of the year.

This year's max budget was $2005, last year was $2004, etc.

Total can't exceed that, for everything. Parts, the car itself, oil changes, tires, safety equipment, etc.

Last year some nova went 10.7, many guys in the 11's. This year there were 4-5 cars in the 11's, many in the 12's. One of the local neons went 12.50@119 at the event.

I think he spent $1983 total? For everything.

[JL LGT]

and 7 of those pages are you idiots posting '+1'
You're just exagerating David! Rather than rag on us idiots.....you should just join in! :fu:

How much do those hatchbacks weigh?

[doctorstupid]

Hondas suck.




That is all :)

[RiceBurner00]

what the hell is with the plus +1 lol

everytime someone 'chumped' me some other moron would do +200,

is the +200 a better chump then the +1? :)

[Conrad]

See you are not taking into account the kind of money it is going to take you to tune it. And no offense, but you still have a car that is ten years old and cost you $10K.

I guess my point is that I can't understand how the civic guys can sit here and say, "it's still a neon" , you guys drive civics. Honda Civics, the car that is in the exact same class as the neon! All I can say in no matter how fast it is, "it's still just a civic", how does that feel?

Another thing is mod for mod the factory turbo car is going to be more reliable than the turbo civic. And I have been in this scene for a while and I am yet to see a turbo honda that does not have it's fair share of problems, even when done properly.........There is so much in this thread that is dumb, including the hp/L argument, that is so 90's. :)

Whatever man... because YOU couldnt make your honda fast... dont kill the facts that plenty of other people make their hondas fast for fairly cheap... By the way nice G35. I never said anything about the neon.. I would drive one and think they look pretty good. I like the stance they have. That was my first post in this thread. But if i have to pay 21K for an SRT-4 that im paying INTEREST ON oh for 4 years and in the end all price with a good interest rate the car costs me something like 25K?? Not including the maintenance of the vehicle then its not the same argument. Well I have a 10K 10 year old car..... at any time I DONT have to spend money on if I dont want to or make a car payment. And on top of that all the money i put in it is just reinforcing my interest in a car that I have built pretty much from scrap. You know I have been around the block both ways... car payment nicer car... I could afford a new EVO, SRT-4, GTO, G35 but to what point... Its not going to have the speed im going to have in my civic and im not going to enjoy the fact that if I take it to the track and it blows up I dont have 5 years of payments left on it. I dont have to worry when the mini cooper at bandi comes into my lane and cruches me into the wall that my insurance might not cover my car for being there. My honda turbo might not be as reliable as an SRT-4 stock turbo... but i can afford to fix my own honda... I dont think I would want to pay dodge the money to fix my SRT-4...

And on my 90s argument. The reason I brought that up was the stupid comment about honda not engineering performance in their engines... If you have a better way to judge engines let me know I always thought that the engines ability to make power was a pretty good comparison... But if your talking overall HP or whatever then yes that is a pointless argument and so 80s.

[2000SiVTEC]

Whatever man... because YOU couldnt make your honda fast... dont kill the facts that plenty of other people make their hondas fast for fairly cheap... By the way nice G35. I never said anything about the neon.. I would drive one and think they look pretty good. I like the stance they have. That was my first post in this thread. But if i have to pay 21K for an SRT-4 that im paying INTEREST ON oh for 4 years and in the end all price with a good interest rate the car costs me something like 25K?? Not including the maintenance of the vehicle then its not the same argument. Well I have a 10K 10 year old car..... at any time I DONT have to spend money on if I dont want to or make a car payment. And on top of that all the money i put in it is just reinforcing my interest in a car that I have built pretty much from scrap. You know I have been around the block both ways... car payment nicer car... I could afford a new EVO, SRT-4, GTO, G35 but to what point... Its not going to have the speed im going to have in my civic and im not going to enjoy the fact that if I take it to the track and it blows up I dont have 5 years of payments left on it. I dont have to worry when the mini cooper at bandi comes into my lane and cruches me into the wall that my insurance might not cover my car for being there. My honda turbo might not be as reliable as an SRT-4 stock turbo... but i can afford to fix my own honda... I dont think I would want to pay dodge the money to fix my SRT-4...

And on my 90s argument. The reason I brought that up was the stupid comment about honda not engineering performance in their engines... If you have a better way to judge engines let me know I always thought that the engines ability to make power was a pretty good comparison... But if your talking overall HP or whatever then yes that is a pointless argument and so 80s.

First, thank you for the compliments on the G...I am totally in love with this car!

I could have made my Honda fast, but I chose not to, it was stupid at a point in my eyes. It would have just cost too much money for a car that would not be that reliable. But I guess I am in a different boat than you. I would much rather have a nicer car overall. To me it is not all about going fast I want something that is nice to drive and nice to look at as well as being somewhat fast, especially if it is my daily driver. Personally I would much rather have a nicer newer car that wasn't a tin can with a turbo. If I had really wanted to make the Honda really fast I would not have done it to the civic Si platform, but rather to a older hatch, but that just has never been my bucket of beer :) mmmmmm......beer.....Oh sorry, back to what i was saying.......

one last point, serioulsy if I wanted to make a really fast car it would have to be a fox body 5.0....

[Zach]

what i want to know is, where can i build a car like that for 2005 bucks? you would either have to do a shitload of cutom fab, or have some connections. i want to know where these guys bought their parts

[BluByU]

No kidding, that's badass. Reminds me of Shane and Nathan with their sleeper Z's.

[Aracheon]

Buicks are one of the most reliable cars dipshit, just because its American, doesnt make it unreliable. I had it daily driven for about 2 years when I got it. The only thing the car needed to replace were the tires (especially the 2 back ones). A 13 second daily driver is fast enough for me not to modify.

your happy for me? well thanks for the sarcasm asshole, I was just giving you morons a little information, but when someone talks about (insert honda drivers car info here) everyone blows a load because its one of there brands making some good timing, and not a Buick


An asshole, huh? Oh noes!!!1

Let's examine. Buicks are one of the most reliable cars, you say? Where do you get your information from? Because last I checked, Buick is a General Motors product... GM happens to be at the lower end of the food chain for reliability figures. One of the most reliable cars? Yeah, they're on the list... at the bottom. Also, if I'm not mistaken... Toyota / Lexus and Honda / Acura have remained in the top spots for the most reliable cars in the US for the last 10 years. Don't believe me? Go pick up any Consumer Reports for the last 10 years and tell me where Buick or GM stands. You had it daily driven for 2 years when you got it? What does that mean, anyway? You had someone drive it daily for two years before you acquired it? Your Engrish eludes my realm of rational, comprehensive understanding. Please explain.

I'm sorry that my Honda offends you. Really.

[LeonZ]

An asshole, huh? Oh noes!!!1

Let's examine. Buicks are one of the most reliable cars, you say? Where do you get your information from? Because last I checked, Buick is a General Motors product... GM happens to be at the lower end of the food chain for reliability figures. One of the most reliable cars? Yeah, they're on the list... at the bottom. Also, if I'm not mistaken... Toyota / Lexus and Honda / Acura have remained in the top spots for the most reliable cars in the US for the last 10 years. Don't believe me? Go pick up any Consumer Reports for the last 10 years and tell me where Buick or GM stands. You had it daily driven for 2 years when you got it? What does that mean, anyway? You had someone drive it daily for two years before you acquired it? Your Engrish eludes my realm of rational, comprehensive understanding. Please explain.

I'm sorry that my Honda offends you. Really.

haha magazine racer!11four1!

[RiceBurner00]

An asshole, huh? Oh noes!!!1

Let's examine. Buicks are one of the most reliable cars, you say? Where do you get your information from? Because last I checked, Buick is a General Motors product... GM happens to be at the lower end of the food chain for reliability figures. One of the most reliable cars? Yeah, they're on the list... at the bottom. Also, if I'm not mistaken... Toyota / Lexus and Honda / Acura have remained in the top spots for the most reliable cars in the US for the last 10 years. Don't believe me? Go pick up any Consumer Reports for the last 10 years and tell me where Buick or GM stands. You had it daily driven for 2 years when you got it? What does that mean, anyway? You had someone drive it daily for two years before you acquired it? Your Engrish eludes my realm of rational, comprehensive understanding. Please explain.

I'm sorry that my Honda offends you. Really.

you dont know anything about GM cars, yes they might have been in a bind, but they produced a lot of great cars. I said Toyota and Honda were great reliable cars. Its over, you win