Should I buy this?

[rmcdaniels]

I can get this for a little over the price of the parts. Should I buy it? That's 4/2/1 and a 4" downpipe that clears the AC. All stainless, welded by Cody of Lovefab. I currently have a Lovefab SST.

http://www.lovefabinc.com//images/products/4inchsidewinder%20007.jpg

[Skaterkid]

I can get this for a little over the price of the parts. Should I buy it? That's 4/2/1 and a 4" downpipe that clears the AC. All stainless, welded by Cody of Lovefab. I current ly have a Lovefab SST.

http://www.lovefabinc.com//images/products/4inchsidewinder%20007.jpg
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Damn, I say why not? Looks pretty fucking kick ass.

[rmcdaniels]

I think the cons would be that it's a giant, heavy heat-sink and that there's a lot of piping between the exhaust ports and the turbine, so slower spool and more chance for the exhaust gases to cool.

[Brandon]

it's beatiful

[Zach]

DAYYUM, what kind of power would that make? i say buy it

[DSMxSteve]

I say its overkill. Plus the welds look shawdy. 4" isn't necessary for any 4 cylinder. Spool time would suck I would think . Turbo is too far from the engine.

[Zach]

i dunno, i might be having second thoughts about voting for you to get it. that thing is Fucking enormous, im thinkin it would be totally impractacle, even at the track. i dont think that thing would hit boost until super late in the rpm range.

[Th3Cleaner]

I know nothing about this type of thing, but it looks like all SHOW and no go.

[David]

thats just ridiculous, why would you ever need something that big?

[rmcdaniels]

It's 4-2-1 for optimum flow, has a 4" downpipe, and clears the AC by a long ways. That's mostly why I'd consider it.

[JL LGT]

What's wrong with the Lovefab & how much does the monstrosity cost?

[rmcdaniels]

What's wrong with the Lovefab & how much does the monstrosity cost?
The SST actually works great, I squeezed 380 WHP out of a GT28RS with it. I'm thinking of going to another setup using a bigger turbo and can get the new manifold (also from Lovefab) for a few hundred as part of some other stuff I'm working on with Lovefab. I'll probably just stick with my SST.

[Beater114]

its pretty nice, but roll down ur windows for cool air, AC is for turkeys

[Zach]

dude, if you can get stuff that cheap, wanna get me a mini manifold mor my b16ed eg?

[rmcdaniels]

dude, if you can get stuff that cheap, wanna get me a mini manifold mor my b16ed eg?
After you buy a few thousand worth of stuff off of him, then maybe you can talk to him about cutting you a deal. MiniMe's are pretty cheap anyway, you won't be disappointed if you buy one. He's also making the logs again for 350 again.

[Zach]

dope, is the minime worth the extra though, im only thinking of pushin a max of like 15psi (after appropriate mods of courst)

[rmcdaniels]

dope, is the minime worth the extra though, im only thinking of pushin a max of like 15psi (after appropriate mods of courst)It depends. A manifold with a good merge collector will let you make power more efficiently, so you can make more top end power with a smaller turbo. I make 380 WHP with a turbo that is rated at about 300 (350 at the crank). That allows me use a turbo that spools up quickly and still make good peak power, giving me much more torque at lower RPM's. I used to use a bigger turbo on a cast manifold and I made less power with more boost. Of course if you want to bolt a SC61 onto it you can make as much power as your engine can handle with any kind of manifold, but it may take until 6000-7000 RPM to spool it up.

[Conrad]

Are there any other turbo setups that clear the AC? I was thinking of moving to Tennessee where AC isnt an option.

[rmcdaniels]

Are there any other turbo setups that clear the AC? I was thinking of moving to Tennessee where AC isnt an option.
Tons of them, Greddy, Inlinepro, etc.

[Zach]

so would one of those mini mes, with like a garrett t3 with the super 60 trim be a good setup?

[rmcdaniels]

so would one of those mini mes, with like a garrett t3 with the super 60 trim be a good setup?
On what engine?

[rmcdaniels]

Never mind, it's a B16. For a stock B16 that's exactly what I'd use if I wanted a quality setup on a budget.

[Zach]

sweet, thanks for the info man. and if you can or want to get me a good deal on that stuff, let me know:)

[Zach]

i was wondering, what type of bov and wastegate should i use. i was thinkin of just getting a cheap 1g dsm bov. also maybe a tial wastegate, but they are pretty damn expensive. what do you think?

[rmcdaniels]

i was wondering, what type of bov and wastegate should i use. i was thinkin of just getting a cheap 1g dsm bov. also maybe a tial wastegate, but they are pretty damn expensive. what do you think?
I like the TIAL WG, and you don't want to skimp there. For relatively low boost on a stock engine, I'd just use anything, I got a Blitz BOV off of ebay for $50 a while back and it worked fine until I ran 20+ PSI of boost, then I got surge. I use a HKS SSQ now and it works well for higher boost levels.

[B16crxTurbo]

Why the hell would you be putting something like that on a car with A/C? I mean really, if your car is made for race, buy a second car that already has A/C and buy performance parts that will make your car fast, not because they allow creature comforts.

[servion]

I don't like how the wg dumps into the downpipe, but the 4" DP would be absolutely awesome. Those runners are long as hell, but I bet that you'd be more than happy as long as you don't mind spinning it to 9000 (which is something that I personally think anyone considering a turbo big enough to warrant this manifold/DP should be doing already :)).

[Conrad]

Why the hell would you be putting something like that on a car with A/C? I mean really, if your car is made for race, buy a second car that already has A/C and buy performance parts that will make your car fast, not because they allow creature comforts.

Why not.... You can have a fast as hell daily driver that has A/C. I plan on having 450+ HP but that doesnt mean I want to sacrifice comfortability! Ill be more then happy to race you with my A/C running

[Natef82]

Are there any other turbo setups that clear the AC? I was thinking of moving to Tennessee where AC isnt an option.
Where in TN? I grew up in TN.

[Number Two]

I know nothing about this type of thing, but it looks like all SHOW and no go.

LOL. Yup. It's shiny, therefore, rice