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maz087
07-18-2004, 11:37 PM
i bought my car up north and installed the AEM Cold air but now that im living through the monsoons i really would prefer short ram so taht i dont risk fucking up my engine, so tomorrow i was planning on just cutting the pipe before it turns town below the turn signal to make it short ram. Does a certain length do anything for the cars performance and what does short ram sound like compared to cold air?

AgressivMX3
07-19-2004, 06:41 PM
You could just install an air bypass valve, that would stop water from going up your inyake.

exciv2000
07-19-2004, 07:03 PM
you won't suck up enough water to harm your engine unless your filter is nearly completely submerged in water. Keep the CAI.

stu
07-19-2004, 07:19 PM
you won't suck up enough water to harm your engine unless your filter is nearly completely submerged in water. Keep the CAI.

I use to say that too, until my engine shut off on me just driving down 6th while it was raining. I barely made it off the highway, and let my car sit for a couple of hours. It was fine after that, but just to avoid missing school like that again once would be worth taking the precautions IMO.

Weston-work
07-19-2004, 07:36 PM
Yeah, I've had my Prelude stall on me like that too. I was screwing around with some large puddles (the street was good and flooded), and enough water got on the filter that the engine died and didn't restart for a couple of minutes. And I didn't even have a CAI.

exciv2000
07-19-2004, 08:07 PM
I never had a problem with a suction pump on the end right before the intake manifold full throttle through plenty of puddles and pouring rain. nuff said.

stu
07-19-2004, 08:16 PM
I never had a problem with a suction pump on the end right before the intake manifold full throttle through plenty of puddles and pouring rain. nuff said.

Umm, not really. Just because you, one guy, never had an issue means that no one else will? I'm 100% positive that the worst rain storm Colorado has ever seen doesn't hold a candle to anywhere that has a monsoon season. For what it's worth Scott, your filter never saw any water. My fender liner fell out a couple months before that, so the filter was exposed to open air. When I was on the highway in the rain, the continuous spray right onto the filter was all it took to shut the motor completely off; I was lucky that I didn't break anything. If your filter saw any water, you'd have suffered the same fate.

marcrx5
07-19-2004, 08:36 PM
Are you sure that water just didn't get in the distributor or something? If enough water gets sucked into the intake to stop the engine, there should have been damage. When the distributor dries, your car will start again, when the cylinders dry, it may start but it would most likely have damage. I say get the bypass filter as suggested earlier.

exciv2000
07-19-2004, 09:41 PM
stu, don't try and talk like you know my car's engineering or my rain/puddle circumstances. My filter got plenty wet. On more than one occasion the filter was soaked with water but was not submerged completely... it's funny how later I could see dried water marks up my intake piping, yet never had a problem. BTW, Arizona doesn't have monsoons. If you want your car to go even slower in Arizona, go ahead and get a SRI. I warned you.

STIBungy
07-19-2004, 09:45 PM
I dont think Stu was referring to yours in particular. A friend of mine in Florida hydrolocked his B18C when it sucked up water through his CAI.

Mark_H
07-20-2004, 08:41 AM
You could just install an air bypass valve, that would stop water from going up your inyake.

I heard that thing is a load of crap. My roommate has a brand new one from AEM that came with a car he bought, he'll give it away if I don't throw it in the trash 1st.
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myshtern
07-20-2004, 08:59 AM
I heard that thing is a load of crap. My roommate has a brand new one from AEM that came with a car he bought, he'll give it away if I don't throw it in the trash 1st.
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Me too

Also, any benefits you gain from CAI, it pretty much takes away.

exciv2000
07-20-2004, 12:07 PM
in all honesty, if you have the money, get a CAI in the form of the Comptech Icebox... good luck sucking water into that thing.

stu
07-20-2004, 03:36 PM
Yeah, or just spend your money on something that will make real horsepower.

Mario
07-20-2004, 06:13 PM
Yeah, or just spend your money on something that will make real horsepower.

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