I want turbo, was told to talk to Tobi?

[nsti2tional]

I was told by another forum I belong to, to contact Tobi from HAI to purchase and install a turbo into my 2001 prelude...He came highly recommended by others here in CO. Here is what I am looking for:

FMAX turbo kit (Turbonetics Turbo System basically)

Everyone also tells me I need to do some other upgrades to my engine if I want to run higher than 6 psi on the road. What these upgrades are I am not totally sure. Something about forged pistons and so forth...

What I am really looking for is a list of parts I need to compile to complete my goal...

Currently I have an AEM CAI, AEM Pullies, Nology Wires and thats about it...If any one can help me I would greatly appreciate it...

[1998cc]

See his post here (http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/showthread.php?t=20121) PM Prelude97. he is selling his greddy kit at an unbelieveable price.

[doctorstupid]

if you want more boost you need to either pay tons of money for high octane race gas, setup a propane injection system, or lower the engine's compression ratio. the latter is best accomplished with aftermarket forged pistons and is by far the most straight-forward, durable and economic approach.

other things to consider are multi-layer steel headgasket, larger injectors and fuel pump, engine management, and an understanding of what the hell you're doing.

[nsti2tional]

The greddy kit doesn't work on my year only 97-99, so I was told, because of the OBD or something...

[doctorstupid]

...
ok, not to be rude, but an honest observation:

you clearly have little understanding of what it is you're trying to do to your car. ignorance + forced induction = catastrophic engine failure.

before you worry about pricing kits and installing them, you NEED to do a lot of research on the matter.

[nsti2tional]

What kind of engine management? Can a VAFC work for that?

[nsti2tional]

you clearly have little understanding of what it is you're trying to do to your car. ignorance + forced induction = catastrophic engine failure.

Well I know what a turbo is, I know what its purpose is and I know my car pretty well...this might be ignorance but that is why I am here on this forum, so people can school me about the ins and outs...You are totaly right, I do need to know more before I go through with this, but just reading doesn't always help to understand. Atleast not for me...I am a more visual person.

I am just asking for help in these areas...If I can get down to the specifics I will better understand. So here we go:

other things to consider are multi-layer steel headgasket, larger injectors and fuel pump, engine management, and an understanding of what the hell you're doing.

I was told it is better to go with smaller fuel injectors but more of them? Why isn't the stock fuel pump efficient?

[doctorstupid]

a v-afc should be able to get the job done, don't know about ignition timing though or how honda ECU's adapt to lots and lots of air being forced into the engine.

larger injectors will work just fine, if you have more small injectors you just have to buy more injectors. and that's gay. also i would doubt a stock honda pump can provide enough flow and sustain high enough pressure for much above 6psi. could be wrong though.

[nsti2tional]

a v-afc should be able to get the job done, don't know about ignition timing though or how honda ECU's adapt to lots and lots of air being forced into the engine.

What could I get to tune the ignition timing?

[phil]

you can't just add fuel injectors. not sure what the stock fuel pump is capable of handling but more power means more fuel needs to be delivered faster.

a really good resource is maximum boost by corky bell. i highly recommend checking it out.

[nsti2tional]

a really good resource is maximum boost by corky bell. i highly recommend checking it out.

Where can I find it at?

[nsti2tional]

And what do you mean by "you can't just add fuel injectors. "

[doctorstupid]

i think he means auxillary injectors, i.e. more than stock.

[nsti2tional]

Ahh, thanks for your help doctorstupid...

[ryanman]

before you worry about pricing kits and installing them, you NEED to do a lot of research on the matter.
Thats why you find a guy like Tobi to take care of you so you don't have to read and learn a whole bunch of shit.

[foxxof]

hey man a good source for quick info on cars is howthingswork.com they go over the basic theory of all components and explain them pretty well. and keep reading these threads. ive learned tons and tons reading on here. and some other local ones are good too.

[HONDA GHANDI]

I dont see why the Greddy kit wont work on the 2001. It cannot be an OBD issue since the 97-01 ECUs are the same.

On Prelude97's car we made 263hp on 10psi on stock internals and pump gas.
Now if you had the cash to do internals and sleeves there are obviously more ponies to be had. I think t is possible to fit it to 2001, you should buy his entire setup, then get Tobi (me) to install it and retune.

[stu]

Guy: I did a search for you for all the posts created by Warwick 5S. He has been asking all the questions that you need to know lately, so click here and read these posts for a good starting point search. :)

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/search.php?searchid=144875

[Prelude97]

I dont see why the Greddy kit wont work on the 2001. It cannot be an OBD issue since the 97-01 ECUs are the same.

On Prelude97's car we made 263hp on 10psi on stock internals and pump gas.
Now if you had the cash to do internals and sleeves there are obviously more ponies to be had. I think t is possible to fit it to 2001, you should buy his entire setup, then get Tobi (me) to install it and retune.
Yeah im pretty sure the only thing that wont work on my kit is the fuel management, get yourself an afc or hondata or ems and your set, you'll be beating up on corvette z06's before ya know it.

[HONDA GHANDI]

why wont it? The Hondata system covers all years of OBD-II preludes.

[ryanman]

you'll be beating up on corvette z06's before ya know it.
:rofl:

And then you woke up.

[Prelude97]

why wont it? The Hondata system covers all years of OBD-II preludes.
Im not exactly sure why it wont work, I remember reading on honda-tech that the ecu's for 97-99 are slightly different than the 00-01, people have tried the kit on an 00-01 and it threw like 2 or 3 codes, so im not sure what the difference is.

[Prelude97]

:rofl:

And then you woke up.
I meant bone stock z06's at 5800 ft of altitude :fu: , and then i hit my hazards

[doctorstupid]

Thats why you find a guy like Tobi to take care of you so you don't have to read and learn a whole bunch of shit.
personally, i wouldn't do anything to my car that i didn't fully understand. sure, you can have someone more experienced install and tune it, but if something goes wrong or needs adjustment or you make a mistake, you're on your own and SOL unless the person who set it up is right there with you when it happens.

just my $.02, not trying to be an ass. but i think i was an ass earlier, my apologies if i offended you (nsti2tional) :)

[nsti2tional]

No worries, I appreciate all the responses. I have done some more research and I think I have a prett good grasp on the details of what I want my car to do...Tobi, I might be giving you a call sometime in the near future to get it all installed...

[oMekone]

i thought there was ODB2a started in 96 and after a few years ODB2b.

also i tought hondata systems where only for odb1 cars? unless they came out with a new setup.

[HONDA GHANDI]

Hondata can be used on an OBD-II car. Either A or B. It hust wont have OBD-II certification any more, it has to be converted to OBD-I

[oMekone]

ya thats what i figured, all the teg guys ive seen running hondata all switched to a ODB1 ecu

[rmcdaniels]

Where can I find it at?

I picked up a copy at my local book store, but it would be cheaper from here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0837601606/qid=1085313100/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-5570311-7198446?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

I would highly advise reading it, you will have a lot better understanding of what you are trying to do.