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Talus
05-07-2004, 06:00 PM
If there is pre-ignition under boost, would it be in the low rpm's? I have a hesetation or missfires right off idle under heavy load when it's hot out and the engine warms up, but I dont know what pre-ignition feels like so I dont know what it is.

Danielson
05-07-2004, 06:52 PM
my car is doing this, my car doesnt have a turbo though. i have a A/F guage i noticed that it could be ur oxygen sensor or wire. my car hesitates and feels slugish but its just the wire that is loose on the sensor.

crazycam31
05-07-2004, 09:46 PM
If there is pre-ignition under boost, would it be in the low rpm's? I have a hesetation or missfires right off idle under heavy load when it's hot out and the engine warms up, but I dont know what pre-ignition feels like so I dont know what it is.

Here is an article about Pre-ignition vs. Detonation. Its an interesting read. Hopefully this helps you locate and fix the problem.

Skaterkid
05-07-2004, 11:40 PM
Check for arcing on your plug wires.

gjcivic
05-08-2004, 12:24 AM
Here is an article about Pre-ignition vs. Detonation. Its an interesting read. Hopefully this helps you locate and fix the problem.

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john
05-08-2004, 10:00 AM
I'd suggest that neither pre-ignition or detonation will not occur under low load / low rpm / low boost.

Do you know these events are, and what causes them?

Take a look here (http://www.misterfixit.com/deton.htm) - it's an "ok" explanation.

Talus
05-10-2004, 02:11 AM
I still dont understand much of this. Let me explain the full story:
I havnt been able to replicate the problem, but I have since raised the octane of my gas from about 89-90 to 92-93.
This only happened once on a hot day- it was friday when it was around 90 degrees and my engine temp was very high, and right when I would start out from a light, the car would missfire and there would be an extreme loss of power. This happened under moderate/heavy throttle application from around 1500 to 2200 rpm. If I used less throttle (kept it out of boost), or if I went full throttle at an rpm greater than around 2,500, there was no problem. I dont know what psi it was at, but max boost is supposed to be around 6-7 psi. This is on a supercharged VW 2.0

So I am still wondering if knock/pre-ignition/detenation/whatever would happen in low rpm/heavy load.

john
05-10-2004, 08:47 AM
Engine(coolant) temp was higher than 'normal'? Is your ECU storing any error codes? Are your plugs burnt?

You could be experiencing detonation if there's a fuel delivery problem in that RPM range.

HONDA GHANDI
05-10-2004, 08:56 AM
From what you are describing it sounds more like a loss of good spark. It may not be as serious as detonation/preignition and may be as simple as incorrect plug gap or a failing plug or wire. (or coilpack)

Talus
05-10-2004, 07:45 PM
Thanks, I havnt had the problem anymore, but if it does, I will look at spark, or if there is enough fuel. I should get a dyno soon.