HKS Super Mega Flow vs. K&N

[saabracr]

I have heard recently from several sources that a K&N filter can have a detrimental effect on air mass meter life. I recently had my AMM go out- the wire just came off and got ingested. I am running an open element K&N clamped to the AMM and I have reason to suspect that the oil in the filter might have damaged the wire.

So does the HKS filter use oil to help trap debris? I would really like this turbo to die of natural causes instead of foreign object ingestion like the last two. What is your experience with this issue?

Thanks,
Andy

[doctorstupid]

i personally wouldn't buy the super mega flow intake because it has a really fucking stupid name. :)

[ryanman]

The HKS filter uses oil also. Don't over oil either of the filters and both of them will work great. I didn't like my last HKS filter cause the cage it sits in is made of plastic and if you over-tighten it the cage will break.

[CT9A]

The HKS is a non-reusable filter. It still has oil in it, but not like the K&N filter needs to have every time you clean it. I haven't seen any signs of my MAF sensor getting oil congested in it.

[saabracr]

Cool. Thx for the input. You allow me to spend my $90 elsewhere.

[ryanman]

The HKS megafoam filter is a foam filter and it IS cleanable. Go to any motorcycle shop and buy filter cleaner and filter oil for foam filters and it'll work fine. I managed better 1/4 times with my k&n filter then I did with my HKS filter.

[V8SpankR]

Actually you shouldn't reuse the HKS filters,I bought one that was a reusueable one but was made by some other company. The filter was made from the same foam that Uni-filter uses for their motorcycle filters.

[Pang]

heres some info:

The filters were tested on the quality of the filtration, simulated by using a vacuum cleaner and millions of microscopic dirt particles. The particles that penetrated the air filter, were collected on a secondary paper filter, so that a fair comparison could be performed, and the results could be compared like for like. As well as the fine particle test, the performance gains were also measured using each of the induction kits in the test. Therefore, in the quest to find the ultimate induction kit, the filters must not only filter the particles out efficiently, but must maximize the amount of clean air flow, through the filter. The winner would be the induction kit that filters the most dirt particles, whilst acheiving the maxmimum power output of the vehicle.
Blitz Sus- Zero Maintenance - Lifetime Use.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_t.../blitz_fins.jpg

HKS mega flow- Throw away. Change Filter every 10,000 Miles.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/hks_fins.jpg

Apexi power intake- Zero Maintenance - Lifetime Use.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_t...2/apex_fins.jpg

K&N filtercharger- Lifetime Usage - Inspect every 30,000 Miles or 12 Months - Clean and re-oil, if appropriate.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/k&n_fins.jpg

[john]

If the mega flow is the green mushroom, they had some issues a few yrs ago with bits of the filter being injested.

Maybe it was a Q/A problem, and hopefully it's resolved.

[foxxof]

Pang thanks for posting that. I went back and read through that article. interesting results. I think ill go with Apexi

[white_n_slow]

POP! "uhh... that didn't feel good. Why is the car slow?"

good info, pang.

[<T>]

the HKS is superb in both filtering tests and performance
http://www.ftooc.org/contents/pages/project/filter.htm
In this test the HKS filter alone made more power than an entire K&N cold air intake did! :eek:

[doctorstupid]

First of all, way to resurrect an old ass thread.

Second, that test said nothing about filtering.

Third, it still has a retarded name, and that picture of it in the test made me throw up a little in my mouth.

Finally, how the hell did YOU find your way over here?! :p

[doctorstupid]

Also, even the testers said it was unfair to the K&N.
It was a slightly unfair test for this filter as it comes complete with an intricate cold air ducting system to draw cold air form the front of the car. Under road tests it would probably have done better against its rivals.

[KennyKen]

I would only buy either an apex-i or k&n filter...through consistant tests only these have shown gains and better filtering.

[ryanman]

K&N > anything else. I've used them all and K&N is the best by far.

[STIBungy]

:werd:

Fuck the foam crap

K&N > anything else. I've used them all and K&N is the best by far.

[myshtern]

K&N also costs more than 2x what the generic filters are.

I would rather just buy a cheaper filter and replace it twice as often.

[V8SpankR]

I would rather just buy a cheaper filter and replace it twice as often.

Uneeded spending just like the Republican you are. ;);)

K&N should be the last filter you'll buy for your car and I spent $40 on mine while replacements paper filters cost about $15 so after 3 changes the paper filters just keep adding up.

[STIBungy]

:werd: Dont listen to a kia owner. :p

Uneeded spending just like the Republican you are. ;);)

K&N should be the last filter you'll buy for your car and I spent $40 on mine while replacements paper filters cost about $15 so after 3 changes the paper filters just keep adding up.

[ryanman]

K&N also costs more than 2x what the generic filters are.

I would rather just buy a cheaper filter and replace it twice as often.
You pay for what you get, it's called QUALITY. Go ahead and use that el cheapo air filter and see where it gets you.

[doctorstupid]

K&N also costs more than 2x what the generic filters are.

I would rather just buy a cheaper filter and replace it twice as often.
K&N filters have a 1,000,000 mile warranty, you do not ever need to replace them. So you can't replace it twice as often, since basic arithmatic tells us that 2 x 0 = 0 ;)

It should be a concern of quality, not price, when it comes to something as basic as an air filter. Those who have sucked in the "buttons" would not have been helped by replacing it, and the fact my intake was full of dirt within 5,000 miles (as I recall) kind of negates any price saving, since I had to buy a K&N to replace it after spending $30 on the cheap filter in the first place. If I had had to replace the engine as well, I wouldn't have realy saved much at all.

[Brandon]

how bout part #33 2054?

[doctorstupid]

$55 :)