foxxof
04-20-2004, 10:20 AM
ok recently some people have been asking about what all it would take to do a awd conversion/turbo conversion for a n/a fwd DSM. this was just up on CoDSM.
"just to put a final word in on this, I looked at doing the conversion to my fwd 2g for a while. most of you are right to a point but I don't think any of you really have an idea of what it really takes. first you have to remove the entire interior, suspension, fuel tank, and you might as well remove the engine, tranny, doors, everything! that's right, strip that sucker to a bare shell! then proceed to drill out the welds to the ENTIRE floorpan, firewall to the rear body panel. do the same to the rear bodypanel while you're at it. now get an air chisel and pull all those welds apart, and remove the entire floor pan and the rear bodypanel. for a good body shop this would take a week nonstop aprox $2500 also you need a good rack to hold the body and keep it from falling apart because you just pulled out the most major structural component of the vechicle.
after that you have to get the awd spec floor and rear bodypanels, another $1500-2000 then weld them back in place as well a!
s doing some cross bracing to deal with the torque of having drivetrain parts in the rear, might as well put in a cage while you're doing that too, 1.5wks $3500+. after you finish all that, you have to check the frame and make sure it's all straight, and make pulls as necessary 1.5 days frame time $1000. once you've got all this done, you'll have to repaint, we all want a quality job so lets fix all the little dings and dents while we're at it too 1.5 wks $5000. finally we need an awd drivetrain and suspension, I'm sure you guys know what some of the cost of all that stuff comes to for new oem parts but lets go ahead and have some fun while we're going nuts here, and get some stuff for some real fun, coilovers, better tranny, diff and halfshafts, and maybe even a jspec motor while we're at it $I don't even want to guess as you can see, it really is WAY more work than anyone would be crazy enough to do, hell, even a money grubbing shop would probably turn this much work down. also those times $ costs are figgured for a good body shop's average labor rates and if they didn't stop working for the full day. the average diy'er would be working on a project of this magnitude for at least a year sorry I just had to get that out
Erik P.
95 Eclipse (still in pieces) "
hopefully this is informative enough for anyone who was curious. if not http://co.dsm.org/index.html
or ask here
"just to put a final word in on this, I looked at doing the conversion to my fwd 2g for a while. most of you are right to a point but I don't think any of you really have an idea of what it really takes. first you have to remove the entire interior, suspension, fuel tank, and you might as well remove the engine, tranny, doors, everything! that's right, strip that sucker to a bare shell! then proceed to drill out the welds to the ENTIRE floorpan, firewall to the rear body panel. do the same to the rear bodypanel while you're at it. now get an air chisel and pull all those welds apart, and remove the entire floor pan and the rear bodypanel. for a good body shop this would take a week nonstop aprox $2500 also you need a good rack to hold the body and keep it from falling apart because you just pulled out the most major structural component of the vechicle.
after that you have to get the awd spec floor and rear bodypanels, another $1500-2000 then weld them back in place as well a!
s doing some cross bracing to deal with the torque of having drivetrain parts in the rear, might as well put in a cage while you're doing that too, 1.5wks $3500+. after you finish all that, you have to check the frame and make sure it's all straight, and make pulls as necessary 1.5 days frame time $1000. once you've got all this done, you'll have to repaint, we all want a quality job so lets fix all the little dings and dents while we're at it too 1.5 wks $5000. finally we need an awd drivetrain and suspension, I'm sure you guys know what some of the cost of all that stuff comes to for new oem parts but lets go ahead and have some fun while we're going nuts here, and get some stuff for some real fun, coilovers, better tranny, diff and halfshafts, and maybe even a jspec motor while we're at it $I don't even want to guess as you can see, it really is WAY more work than anyone would be crazy enough to do, hell, even a money grubbing shop would probably turn this much work down. also those times $ costs are figgured for a good body shop's average labor rates and if they didn't stop working for the full day. the average diy'er would be working on a project of this magnitude for at least a year sorry I just had to get that out
Erik P.
95 Eclipse (still in pieces) "
hopefully this is informative enough for anyone who was curious. if not http://co.dsm.org/index.html
or ask here