Nitrous Bottle Law?

[Mario]

What is the law as far as having a nitrous system in the car. Is it supposed to be disconnected, or is the bottle supposed to closed?

[exciv2000]

closed and disconnected AFAIK.

[HONDA GHANDI]

If you have the correct "Oxidizer" tagging on the rear bumper of the car it is legal to be connected.

[Mario]

Scott - that's kinda what I thought.

Tobi - I don't get it... could you go into a lil more detail?

[exciv2000]

I've heard of guys mounting their bottle on the floor behind the drivers or passengers seat so it's easy to turn the bottle off. What they do is cut out part of the bottom of a gym bag and put it over the bottle with a couple of clothes/towells, etc thrown in on top for good measure... Most cops wouldn't look twice. neat little trick, but it doesn't eliminate the need to disconnect the line.

[hotrod]

Actually Nitrous oxide is considered a non-flammable gas and should be placarded as UN 1070.

http://www.matheson-trigas.com/msds/MAT16790.pdf


I'm still looking for the DOT regs, they are in Title 49 CFR 172.101 as I understand.
But these probably apply only to "commercial shipment" not private transport.
If you like to read legal stuff:
http://cfr.law.cornell.edu/cfr/cfr.php?title=49&type=part&value=172

The bottles are DOT certified so by definition are suitable for use on the roads.
I can find no Fed reg that restricts shipment of Nitrous in the normal 5# 10# and 20# bottle sizes.

Larry

[Nick4592]

Nitous is Cheating....but maybe that is just me....'ass: :drink:

[David]

I thought you said your friend was getting nitrous :D

[exciv2000]

It is for his friend. I just sold his friend a bottle warmer this weekend.

[Mario]

hotrod, their site is way to slow... so is it possible then to make nitrous in the car legal?

[hotrod]

I am still checking, it may take a while to sort out what is and is not legal.

It appears (at the moment) under Federal regs there is no problem with it, although I recall a post a year or so ago, that in one of the eastern states they passed a local reg that the car had to be placarded with the UN 1070 placard so fire / emergency personnel would know what they were dealing with if you were involved in an accident.

I suspect very strongly that it is probably illegal in many jurisdictions under some obscure local fire or hazmat regs if the cops want to make an issue about it.

I am not aware of any nitrous specific legislation here in Colorado or the greater metro area cities.If there is no specific regulations it is very similar to propane bottles in cars. They have to be DOT approved containers (which Nitrous bottles are) and there may be some specific regs on mounting, location or safety valves, blow down tubes. If you mount according to NHRA regs you will probably be fine unless there is a "gotcha" hidden somewhere out there.

Larry

[Mario]

Larry, interesting information. Please let me know if you have any further details.

[Bedlam]

Hrmm...didnt you see what happened in Fast and the Furious!!! When some Asian biker gang shoots up your car..its going to fucking explode! Who wants THAT?!?! Fixing all the bullet holes would be bad enuf!

-Bedlam

[Mario]

Hrmm...didnt you see what happened in Fast and the Furious!!! When some Asian biker gang shoots up your car..its going to fucking explode! Who wants THAT?!?! Fixing all the bullet holes would be bad enuf!

-Bedlam

Silly ricers... ;NutKick; :cool:

[hotrod]

Just armor plate your bottle silly !!

Besides your supposed to fight back aren't you?

Why is it in the movies some guy pulls up beside the good guys car on a motorcycle and pulls a gun and the good guy never swerves and drives the bike into the front of an oncoming car or something. (well almost never)

You can't out accelerate him, you can't out brake him, you can't out turn him, but you can sure move over and take up the only safe piece of pavement he has to drive on. He's not big enough to play bumper cars, the only option he's got is to get out of your way.

Larry

[phil]

or just sideswipe the mother fucker

[Robie]

Bevis and Butthead: it was a movie. . .deal with it. . . www.nitpickers.com is for you. . .

Back on topic:
"Basically, possession of nitrous oxide for use in industrial applications, such as in automotive systems, is legal. There are numerous companies which supply and install nitrous or 'NOS' automotive parts, most of which create faster motors and greater horsepower.

Likewise, in some medical fields, such as dentistry, nitrous oxide is legally possessed and used as an anesthetic, sometimes in conjunction with other medicines, usually for pain reduction. If dispensed by a licensed physician, its use is, of course, legal.

Finally, there are small charged containers which are sold to the public for use in whipped cream dispensers, since, interestingly, nitrous acts as a presevative and 'inflator' when mixed with chilled whipped cream.

Unlawful Nitrous Oxide possession is addressed by Arizona Law (ARS 13-3403.01 and 13-3403.02), which states in simplest terms that it is illegal to sell, give or receive nitrous charged containers to minors. It appears that sale or possession of nitrous among adults is lawful.

Note, of course, that if a person were to consume any form of nitrous oxide, even if straight from a whipped cream can, and were to become intoxicated to the slightest degree and then drive a car, they could be charged with driving under the influence DUI."

http://www.lawforkids.org/QA/Driving/Driving84.cfm

Robie

[Mario]

So it is legal for me to have a nitrous bottle line connected, opened, and hooked up in my car?

[Robie]

"possession of nitrous oxide for use in industrial applications, such as in automotive systems, is legal"

That still means that you could get busted for speeding, display of speed, street racing. . . :)

Robie

[Mario]

Of course, thanks for clarifying.

"which states in simplest terms that it is illegal to sell, give or receive nitrous charged containers to minors."

Is that going to screw me over though...? I am 17.

[oMekone]

ive heard about people getting there car impounded in denver for having nos. no idea if they where using it or not.

[exciv2000]

Note, of course, that if a person were to consume any form of nitrous oxide, even if straight from a whipped cream can, and were to become intoxicated to the slightest degree and then drive a car, they could be charged with driving under the influence DUI."

Whippets are fun... never tried it while driving tho, *lightbulb*

[mrchris1979]

I got pulled over on Bowles and Platte Canyon for window tint. The cop saw the bottle and asked me what my car ran on the 1/4 mile. He even liked my ride. Obviously it's 100% legal. 5% window tint is not. It will cost you $90.00 every ticket.

So it is legal for me to have a nitrous bottle line connected, opened, and hooked up in my car?

[foxxof]

has anyone been 'accidentaly' exposed to nos because of a 'leaky' bottle or what have you? was it fun?

[Mario]

I got pulled over on Bowles and Platte Canyon for window tint. The cop saw the bottle and asked me what my car ran on the 1/4 mile. He even liked my ride. Obviously it's 100% legal. 5% window tint is not. It will cost you $90.00 every ticket.

Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks. :)

[Robie]

has anyone been 'accidentaly' exposed to nos because of a 'leaky' bottle or what have you? was it fun?

You better pray that doesn't happen. . .you'll be hacking up a lung. . .
Automotive grade Nitrous oxide has sulphur dioxide in it to keep morons from huffing it. . .that is why you are able to purchase it 'Over-the-counter' without a permit, etc. . .

How does it make you hack up a lung?
The sulphur dioxide reacts with oxygen:
2SO2 + O2 = 2SO3

and in the presence of water sulphuric acid is formed:
SO3 + H2O = H2SO4

that is why NHRA requires the bottle blow down tube to vent outside of the vehicle...


Robie

[oldskoolracer]

dang robie you do know your chems.

[Robie]

and I have no freaking clue why I am doing web development. . .

Oh yea. . .it pays a lot more :-)

Robie

[foxxof]

ahhh. i figured they added something to it. nobody wants that shit in their lungs thats for sure

[albsjdm03]

My friend got pulled over in longmont while cruising and the cop just asked if it was hooked up and then let him go didnt give him any shit or say it was illegal.