Well there goes staying stock

[Canuck]

I started buying parts for my new RX7. I am going to keep it pretty tame.

I bought :
a Turbo Timer
BOV
Cat-Back
Intake
FSTB
plus the car already had a downpipe.

I need to stop, I wanted to keep the car stock until spring.

On the good side this should put me to around 270 at the wheels :)

[tsitim]

so I see you have the sickness too!

[Canuck]

so I see you have the sickness too!

It sad I have barely had the car a week!!!

[exciv2000]

just think, all those credit card payments ;UgH: :)

[1998cc]

You think it will stop there but it won't. Soon you'll be building the engine and droping thousands of dollars into the car. Having a hooked up fd rx-7 would be bad ass though.

[CSMsi311]

I better not hear any "i'm to broke to go out" excuses from you. unless you let me drive you car again

[Canuck]

I better not hear any "i'm to broke to go out" excuses from you. unless you let me drive you car again

How about I am too broke now, plus all of the rest of my money goes to girls, well a girl.

[tsitim]

maybe you could start renting out your car for like $10 an hour?

[Canuck]

maybe you could start renting out your car for like $10 an hour?

Not a bad idea, but I would worry so much that it wouldn't be worth it.

[tsitim]

I will rent it this weekend for saturday night! 8pm til 2am 8 hours x's $10an/hour thats $80 where do I sign? I will even fill up the gas tank for ya ;)

[Canuck]

I will rent it this weekend for saturday night! 8pm til 2am 8 hours x's $10an/hour thats $80 where do I sign? I will even fill up the gas tank for ya ;)

But what happens when you run it into a lightpole :cry:

[ryanman]

Your screwed with the bill. HAHAHAH

[Jarod_The_Ronin]

I started buying parts for my new RX7. I am going to keep it pretty tame.

I bought :
a Turbo Timer
BOV
Cat-Back
Intake
FSTB
plus the car already had a downpipe.

I need to stop, I wanted to keep the car stock until spring.

On the good side this should put me to around 270 at the wheels :)

yes... once you start down the dark path... forever will it dominate your destiny...

[Canuck]

yes... once you start down the dark path... forever will it dominate your destiny...

Every thing is installed now. I really want a stand alone ecu. I have a bit of a boost spike at around 6500 rpm that I would like to control.

[THRICE]

Car modding is a disease...

[Canuck]

Car modding is a disease...

I know the question now is do I make it faster, so i can keep up with TT Supras or do I make it handle better so I can destroy them in the mouontains.

[THRICE]

I'd do a 50/50 sort of thing that way you could say you have the best of both worlds. :)

[Canuck]

I'd do a 50/50 sort of thing that way you could say you have the best of both worlds. :)

That is what I have been planning but the thought of a 400 hp RX7 that only weights 2800 lbs with driver is tempting.

[THRICE]

Indeed. Well, good luck with whatever you decide to do. Keep us updated on your mods and shizza.

[exciv2000]

I watched all my Supra videos this morning at like 3:00am, haha. Those things have such a beautiful and unique sound!! I covet them just because of the sound :)... someday when I get more money and move outta this fawking state, I will have one! While I do like the interior of the RX7 a lot better than the supra, the supra owns the RX7 in exterior looks IMO :cool:

[Canuck]

I watched all my Supra videos this morning at like 3:00am, haha. Those things have such a beautiful and unique sound!! I covet them just because of the sound :)... someday when I get more money and move outta this fawking state, I will have one! While I do like the interior of the RX7 a lot better than the supra, the supra owns the RX7 in exterior looks IMO :cool:

Its really dependent on what yo like. The Supra looks a lot meaner, but the FD loks sleaker IMO.
Supras are so much faster, but I found the RX7 to be really composed. The brakes are amazing and the handling is so neutral and its really easy to take this car to my limits without feeling scared that U am near the cars limits.

[djet820]

I'd go with speed. Because Supras are usually all about speed right? So beat them at their own game and it'll be fun that way. The RX-7 suspension is already decent anyways.

And yes, Supras look mean and the RX-7 looks slick.

But my Integra is sexy ;)

[Canuck]

I'd go with speed. Because Supras are usually all about speed right? So beat them at their own game and it'll be fun that way. The RX-7 suspension is already decent anyways.

And yes, Supras look mean and the RX-7 looks slick.

But my Integra is sexy ;)

Standalone, FMIC, single turbo, and midpipe with good tuning at 13 psi should put me over 400 RWHP. I have seen FDs running mid to loow 11s with this setup.

But with supporting mods I am looking at $5000 for that.

I could go with some nice 17s, JIC Coilovers, and sway bars with FMIC, standalone and midpipe on the stock turbos for that price. That should but me to about 350 rwhp, and run low 12s for the same price.

Hmm decisions. :)

[djet820]

Speed...that's what I'm going for. and then we'll have a run at it when the track opens again.

[CSMsi311]

did my little brother's friend ever get a hold of you about the single turbo conversion?

[Canuck]

did my little brother's friend ever get a hold of you about the single turbo conversion?

nope not yet

[damian9669]

Whats up canuck.Welcome to my world.Im an fd owner as well.I couldnt help but read that you have a downpipe and a catback already.
Obviously you havent done too much research.Heres what you need to know.
An intake and a catback is ok on a stock ecu.But with a downpipe you will get boost spiking which is very dangerous to a rotary.You will blow your engine.Believe me.Also you will run too lean with your setup.Running lean and rotaries dont mix.Detonation will ocurr and you will blow your engine.And unless you have at least 2000 grand for a rebuild i would suggest a boost controller or an aftermarket ecu with a boost controller built into it.The apex power fc has nice features.

[damian9669]

Also dont worry about speed too much right now.Worry about reliability.Change your vacuum lines to silicone.Upgrade to an aluminum radiator.Fluidine is nice.
If you have an intake and a catback you should be pushing 290 at the crank easily.Supras push 320 at the crank.But you also have a 400 pound weight advantage.Take your downpipe off or get a boost controller and limit it to 10 psi.
Although you can bump it up to 11 if youre feeling lucky.Anything past 12 will blow your stock apex seals.
Once you have an aftermarket ecu,you can run a down pipe and either a midpipe or high flow catalitic converter.Which will put you at about 340hp at the crank.Maybe a little more.Once again dont go past 11 psi on a stock motor.
Underdrive pulleys will give you an additional 5-8 horses.
Once youve done all that save up for a rebuild.My recomendation is to go with 3mm apex iannatti ceramic seals.Not good for nitrous but awesome for high boost.You can run 20 psi all day on those.20 psi on a rx 7 is at least 500 horses.
Also a mild streetport should help keep the engine cooler and better lubed as well as alowing it to breathe better.Once you have the engine a single turbo is a must.Which will also be nice because going single will eliminate the 60 plus vacuum lines down to about 5.Much easier to troubleshoot.

[Canuck]

Also dont worry about speed too much right now.Worry about reliability.Change your vacuum lines to silicone.Upgrade to an aluminum radiator.Fluidine is nice.
If you have an intake and a catback you should be pushing 290 at the crank easily.Supras push 320 at the crank.But you also have a 400 pound weight advantage.Take your downpipe off or get a boost controller and limit it to 10 psi.
Although you can bump it up to 11 if youre feeling lucky.Anything past 12 will blow your stock apex seals.
Once you have an aftermarket ecu,you can run a down pipe and either a midpipe or high flow catalitic converter.Which will put you at about 340hp at the crank.Maybe a little more.Once again dont go past 11 psi on a stock motor.
Underdrive pulleys will give you an additional 5-8 horses.
Once youve done all that save up for a rebuild.My recomendation is to go with 3mm apex iannatti ceramic seals.Not good for nitrous but awesome for high boost.You can run 20 psi all day on those.20 psi on a rx 7 is at least 500 horses.
Also a mild streetport should help keep the engine cooler and better lubed as well as alowing it to breathe better.Once you have the engine a single turbo is a must.Which will also be nice because going single will eliminate the 60 plus vacuum lines down to about 5.Much easier to troubleshoot.

I was told that I should be fine with intake, cb and dp. (Rule of 3) But my next mod should be an ECU.

[damian9669]

who exactly told you this? Ive talked to many people and just about everyone agrees that a catback and downpipe makes controlling your boost and boost spikes very hard.I would hate to see what happens when your boost spikes above 12 psi.Im pretty sure you can kiss your engine goodbye if it does it one too many times.And when it does go I hope that the seals disintegrate and dont fly through your turbo's first.
One piece of advice I would give is to have the fuel to go along with the increased airflow.Also check out this months issue of turbo magazine.Theres a great writeup on rotaries about 4 or 5 pages long.Very informative.If you have any questions hit me up.

[damian9669]

Dont forget about the silicone vacuum lines.Check to see if the stock lines are hard like plastic.If they are ill guarantee that youre losing power.About 30 horses worth.Trust me on this.After I changed the vacuum hoses I noticed a huge difference in power.Car now pulls all the way to redline and pulls a lot harder.

[Canuck]

Dont forget about the silicone vacuum lines.Check to see if the stock lines are hard like plastic.If they are ill guarantee that youre losing power.About 30 horses worth.Trust me on this.After I changed the vacuum hoses I noticed a huge difference in power.Car now pulls all the way to redline and pulls a lot harder.

Actually my vacuum lines are still in good condition. I have run it a few times and boost spikes aren't really a problem. Pretty much every thing I have read on RX7club.com says that those three mods work well together and boost spikes aren't too bad until you add a mid-pipe.

[damian9669]

im glad to hear that.Im surprised your vacuum lines are still good though.Maybe the previous owner already changed them out.Well if youre ever in the springs maybe we will run into each other.Have fun modding the car.
I see youre looking at getting a fmic.Ive heard good things about the blitz unit.Mainly that its easier to install,doesnt require removal of the front bumper and also that it leaves enough room for air to get to your radiator avoiding overheating.Which most fmic tend to do.I heard the greddy is bad for that because its thinner and covers a larger surface area.Which basically leaves no fresh air for the radiator.

[Canuck]

im glad to hear that.Im surprised your vacuum lines are still good though.Maybe the previous owner already changed them out.Well if youre ever in the springs maybe we will run into each other.Have fun modding the car.
I see youre looking at getting a fmic.Ive heard good things about the blitz unit.Mainly that its easier to install,doesnt require removal of the front bumper and also that it leaves enough room for air to get to your radiator avoiding overheating.Which most fmic tend to do.I heard the greddy is bad for that because its thinner and covers a larger surface area.Which basically leaves no fresh air for the radiator.

I might go SMIC since it is a little more practicle since this car isnt a strip only car.

But standalone computer is next. I just have to find a tuner.

[GimPin]

Well if youre ever in the springs maybe we will run into each other.
what color is your FD?? I saw a dark geen one on lexington and woodman last night around 4:30 next to a 2g eclipse.... the FD had no rear spoiler and an exhaust at least.... was that you?

[CSMsi311]

Canuck's is white

[GimPin]

I asked about damian9669's

[damian9669]

Naw.Mine is black.No wing.Tan interior.Stock exhaust.For now anyways.Untill I can spring for a blitz nur spec.Youll see me mostly on powers or academy between fountain and platte.Depending on where im going.

[damian9669]

So gim pin is that your s2000 in the avatar pic?Just wondering.

[GimPin]

Naw.Mine is black.No wing.Tan interior.Stock exhaust.For now anyways.Untill I can spring for a blitz nur spec.Youll see me mostly on powers or academy between fountain and platte.Depending on where im going.
cool well any FD is madd cool my roommate used to own a yellow one that was built by PFS it was a lot of fun.... yeah thats my S2K (it keeps me broke :D)

[damian9669]

Yeah I hear you bro.Ive put about 3000 grand in it already and all ihave to show for it is an intake and a blow off valve.Everything was new oem stuff to make it run.Fd's are definatly cool.I just made a bad mistake and bought an auto one.Now im starting to regret that decision.I might sell it eventually.You think someone would buy it?

[efini]

Just for some clarification. The 3 mod rule is not a good guideline to go by. Also there is a good deal of evidence to show that "leaning-out" is not an issue when you modify your car. It's a combination of increased boost and the aggressive timing of the stock ECU that does it.

Anyhow you also get to play on a different ballfield cause you are a mile high. you'll probably not have problems with boost creep or boost spike at this altitude unless you go with a full exhaust and an intake.

I had a DP-MP-HKS carbonTi on a stock ecu for a while and did not get boost spike, mostly due to the higher altitude.

I'd definately move to a PFC as soon as possible. I tried the M2 ECU and it did not play well with the MP. If you want to run MP you need to go with the PFC. It allows for such smooth tuning of the boost as well as lots of other valuable tweaks

With frontmount and all the basic bolt on's I've seen RX's run low 12's. Mike hit 11's with stock twins. If you stock twins work I'd suggest staying with them as long as they remain problem free.

Oh, and about those supras, you'll have no problem at all... as the weight difference is more like 700 lbs. I nose ahead on my friend's 492hp supra and all I'm running is full exhaust, intake, and PFC for engine mods.

have fun!

[Canuck]

Just for some clarification. The 3 mod rule is not a good guideline to go by. Also there is a good deal of evidence to show that "leaning-out" is not an issue when you modify your car. It's a combination of increased boost and the aggressive timing of the stock ECU that does it.

Anyhow you also get to play on a different ballfield cause you are a mile high. you'll probably not have problems with boost creep or boost spike at this altitude unless you go with a full exhaust and an intake.

I had a DP-MP-HKS carbonTi on a stock ecu for a while and did not get boost spike, mostly due to the higher altitude.

I'd definately move to a PFC as soon as possible. I tried the M2 ECU and it did not play well with the MP. If you want to run MP you need to go with the PFC. It allows for such smooth tuning of the boost as well as lots of other valuable tweaks

With frontmount and all the basic bolt on's I've seen RX's run low 12's. Mike hit 11's with stock twins. If you stock twins work I'd suggest staying with them as long as they remain problem free.

Oh, and about those supras, you'll have no problem at all... as the weight difference is more like 700 lbs. I nose ahead on my friend's 492hp supra and all I'm running is full exhaust, intake, and PFC for engine mods.

have fun!

I have a few PFC Questions for you.

Where did you get it?
Who tuned it?
What boost are you running?
And what does the datalogic do that the commander can't?

Thanks

[efini]

Got the PFC off of the rx7club.com forums for $650.

Still running stock base map

had it at 14psi, turned it down to 12-13 for the winter months.

The datalogit can tune everything down to the friggin windshield wiper speed! The only thing I can think you'd ever want from a datalogit that the PFC commander will not do is your fan turn on temps. The commander (tho expensive) will probably never leave you wanting more tuning capability.

[Canuck]

Got the PFC off of the rx7club.com forums for $650.

Still running stock base map

had it at 14psi, turned it down to 12-13 for the winter months.

The datalogit can tune everything down to the friggin windshield wiper speed! The only thing I can think you'd ever want from a datalogit that the PFC commander will not do is your fan turn on temps. The commander (tho expensive) will probably never leave you wanting more tuning capability.

Crap, I actually wanted to control fan turn on so I wouldn;t have to do the fan mod.

Oh well.

Time to start looking for one. If you find me one for that price let me know. I haven't seen any near that.

[damian9669]

speaking of the weight of the rx 7.Everywhere I look the car is rated at weighing 2780 without driver.Now the sticker on the door says that the government weight of the car is more like 3200lbs.Weird huh.Check your door and lemme know what you guys think.

[Canuck]

speaking of the weight of the rx 7.Everywhere I look the car is rated at weighing 2780 without driver.Now the sticker on the door says that the government weight of the car is more like 3200lbs.Weird huh.Check your door and lemme know what you guys think.

The car doesn;t weight anywhere near what the door says. I have heard of fds that weight even less than 2780.

[efini]

I think that's like an average driven weight. It factors in possible driver weight and cargo weight.

Mine weighs like 2740 w/o driver, by the scales at Bandi

[damian9669]

Fucking kick ass.I was starting to get depressed that my car weighed as much as a supra or a stang.who hoo.Thanx for the clear up.

[-=[Juztin]=-]

LOL, I know how it is man, started with a little intake for me, then off to the plenum, headers, cats, exhaust..... Now I'm so much poorer, and I still looking seriously into FI on N/A. Such an expensive path! Oh well, as long as you enjoy it all bro!