need a turbo experts knowledge

[dsm tuner 21]

i need to know will a turbo i get mount to the manifold off a stock eclipse gs and what do i do after i get the turbo do i take off the headers and run a down pipe to the exhaust ........SOME ONE PLEASE HELP LOL

[GimPin]

what year GS do you have.... no the turbo will not mount to the botom of your N/A header ... if you have a 1G 94 or older you can buy a turbo manifold and it will bolt up then you can bolt your turbo to that.

[dsm tuner 21]

ok that answers my question now if i buy a turbo kit can i mount a larger turbo on in due time

[GimPin]

yes... all garret/mitusbishi turbos have the same flange ie 14b 16g 18g 20g t25 t28 ect... but other companys have a different flange... such as t3 t4 t3/t4 ect... but if you get a DSM manifold any of those first mentioned turbos will bolt up to it... and there are many other options that carry the garret flange.... keep in mind that any DSM 95 or newer the non-turbo DSMs (engine code: 420a) have a different engine than the turbo DSMs (engine code 4g63) and the 4g63 manifold will not fit the 420a... but all 89-94 DSMs have the 4g63 engine (even non turbos ones) so all engine parts are interchangable

[GimPin]

and you probably wont need to buy a kit ... if you are going to turbo a 89-94 just call around to junkyards and buy the parts.... you will need DSM turbo manifold (any year 95+ is better), DSM turbo (any year 89-94 is better) DSM turbo injectors (440s any year) DSM side mount intercooler (any year) DSM Turbo Intake with MAF (89-94) ... all intercooler piping with DSM Blow off valve (89-94 is better) 89-94 DSM Turbo ECU

[Mark_H]

You need to sit down in front of a DSM with a knowledgeable DSM guy and have him explain all the basics about the car and the turbo system. You are definately a newb, which is fine but one on one information with someone extremely knowledgable is definately what you need. Turbocharging a non-turbo DSM is certainly not an easy chore for a turbo novice. Hopefully you can locate someone to help you learn more about how turbo systems function, and learn what parts are interchangeable etc.
HTH
Mark

[GimPin]

^ good point the swap can be a little chalanging but from his other Post it looks like he has a 96

[newt2]

You're going to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better off if you seel the non-turbo DSM and buy a different one with a turbo from the factory. By the time you're done with the project you'll have spent a shitload of cash and only be about as fast as a stock turbo DSM.

[dsm tuner 21]

well i foudn out hahns racecraft makes everything i need and i can get a kit that makes a 20 g turbo kit including everythinng for 4 grand so i think imma just go down that path on buying that because i just spent 2500 on upgrading all internal parts and i would be out some great buys ....but now i know i should of bought a turbo stock would of been easier but think bout it this way imma have one of kind turbo when im done and when im making 24000 grand a year why hesitate

[hoffman]

HRC makes the only good kit for NTs. but you are going to have problems in other departments.

first off: 2gnt.com read and ask questions

second: it is cheaper to get a turbo DSM

third: if you are 100% adimate about droppping $6k into your engine bay there are other things you are goingto need besides the HRC kit. 2gnt goes into more detail, but heres a starter.

1. built engine. 420 cant even handle 11psi from a 16g
2. clutch
3. ignition, dis-2, with out it you cant control your timing and KABOOM!
4. afpr, the hrc one sucks ass
5. injectors
6. header back exhaust, the hrc dp replaces the header
7. s-afc, datalogger, guages
8. 2weeks, beer and friends with tools

i know there is more but its all thats coming off the top of my head.

after doing an hrc kit on a friends 2gnt. i recommend to everyone, buy a turbo dsm.

[john]

*sigh*

The neon motor. Have fun...

[Mark_H]

Originally posted by dsm tuner 21
when im making 24000 grand a year why hesitate

Is that alot? I assume you live at home and have no other bills or something? I bet half of that will be gone before this turbo project of yours is completed. Not flaming in any way, but just pointing out that turbocharging a non turbo motor is HARD(especially for a novice that will be paying for labor on top of alot of parts), and takes ALOT of $$ in simple small parts etc.
Mark

[dsm tuner 21]

mark you cant judge me you dont know me so were do you get off with judging and yes i knoow its gonna be hard thats why asked you might know a lot about cars but you need to learn how to become a ppl person and other things i pay 600 dollars a month on bills on my car alone insurance loan gas and plus i have another vehicle so dont JUDGE THIS ......... hoffman you sound like you know what your talkin bout i have all that stuff done withthe internals im all set up for a turbo i just cant buy it right now and thanks for the hook up with the questions thing helped me alot

[stu]

Originally posted by dsm tuner 21
mark you cant judge me you dont know me so were do you get off with judging and yes i knoow its gonna be hard thats why asked you might know a lot about cars but you need to learn how to become a ppl person and other things i pay 600 dollars a month on bills on my car alone insurance loan gas and plus i have another vehicle so dont JUDGE THIS

Oh man. Here we go.....:rolleyes:

[Mark_H]

Originally posted by stu
Oh man. Here we go.....:rolleyes:

Hehe I won't say anything else. I was just curious if 24K is supposed to be a lot of $$ or something. Just trying to help the guy out, by making sure he gets help from some knowledgable DSM guys before going head first into this project.
Mark

[stu]

I know you were. You weren't the one I was rolling my eyes at. I don't make 24,000 a year, but I don't think it's a lot of money. Any slack jawed retard could pull that off. And since he's got bills, he probably brings in about the same disposable income as I do.

[dsm tuner 21]

imm only eighteen good money for me how many kids my age can say that

[dsm tuner 21]

alright lets just stop i told ppl how much i make to get an idea on how much i could spend and shit stu i dont knnow you either but i aint judging you

[stu]

Any kid who makes 12 dollars an hour full time. If I worked full time, I'd make more than that. We all know what you're trying to say, but it's really nothing to brag about, bills or no bills.


Here's the deal though. Remember that one girl that you really liked in High School? You thought she was the best thing in the world, and you spent years getting the courage to talk to her, then when you finally did, you found out that she was a total bitch, or a ditz; and you finally realized that it would never work between the two of you because you'd rather kill yourself instead. Then you moped for weeks to your friends about what a bitch she was and how all you did was waste your time? Well that's what it's like turboing your motor when you can just sell it and buy a factory turbo one for SO MUCH easier. Just a big fat waste of time.

And DON'T YOU DARE try and tell me that you just want to be different. Because that's just bullshit! You don't want to be different, you want to be fast.

[john]

I'm not gonna say anything more in this thread. K? K.

Well, one more thing, then I'll quit.

[john]

No.

Originally posted by dsm tuner 21
i need to know will a turbo i get mount to the manifold off a stock eclipse gs and what do i do after i get the turbo do i take off the headers and run a down pipe to the exhaust ........SOME ONE PLEASE HELP LOL

[newt2]

Here's the deal though. Remember that one girl that you really liked in High School? You thought she was the best thing in the world, and you spent years getting the courage to talk to her, then when you finally did, you found out that she was a total bitch, or a ditz; and you finally realized that it would never work between the two of you because you'd rather kill yourself instead. Then you moped for weeks to your friends about what a bitch she was and how all you did was waste your time? Well that's what it's like turboing your motor when you can just sell it and buy a factory turbo one for SO MUCH easier. Just a big fat waste of time.

Well put stu. :)

[hoffman]

ruined thread

[ryanman]

Just sell your car and buy a factory turboed car. You'll be happier in the end. I wish my bills were only $600 a month. I'd be loaded. Try paying insurance on 8 sports cars while your only 24 years old.