whats your dream race track? [Archive]

tsitim

10-08-2003, 09:11 AM

well pretty much self explanatory 'whats your dream race track?' raceway and/or auto x 'burnout:
and not which one you like more!:eek: what should it have anything special/not so special

GimPin

10-08-2003, 09:18 AM

long straight followed by a high bank corner :D :D always wanted to try one of those

tsitim

10-08-2003, 09:18 AM

like the autobaun?

Slava

10-08-2003, 09:22 AM

Laguna Seca

Mark_H

10-08-2003, 09:28 AM

A 1/4 mile track that has beautiful girls walking around in Bikini's.
Mark

tsitim

10-08-2003, 09:29 AM

that would be dopearss
I had a dream of a of race track last night. I talked to a couple of people over the summer (tobi,alex, and a couple others) about making a track everybody would like. Then I talked after convincing my boss to hear me out, he said he might be able to help fund it if it would return some income and I was just thinking what everybody else thought. I guess it might be possible who know's anythings possible!

tsitim

10-08-2003, 09:32 AM

theres always the old stapleton airport runway alot of open space with very little noise ordinance, the runway paving wont be so costly!

celica man

10-08-2003, 10:20 AM

Seattle Circuit
19 turns, 2.37 miles
Two big problems here. 1) Turn 5 (CW) is tricky because going full speed up the hill will put you in the air when you should be braking, so slow down a bit before the top. 2) The last turn before going into the pits to the right, will jump out & bite you. You can hit it at high speed, it just takes practice. Also, if you have a lowered car, watch the railroad tracks, they can bounce you a bit before your turn.

http://www.driving-simulator.com/circuits/seattle.jpg

exciv2000

10-08-2003, 10:36 AM

I would like to go to a track 10,000 feet below sea level :)

Dustin

10-08-2003, 10:38 AM

The track isn't the expensive part. nor are the employees, services etc. Insurance is the killer. 500 thousand in asphalt and 500 in concrete is nothing, its the 100-500 thousand a year that insurance will cost you.

GimPin

10-08-2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by tsitim
like the autobaun?

no I just want a track with that in it the rest of the track everybody else could get creative ... I just want the high bank :D

tsitim

10-08-2003, 11:36 AM

well insurance cost would not be my main concern just the turnout of events, and open track, I'm going to lunch with my boss and when you have a $100million company backing you up anything is possible, so wish me luck!

jontflesh

10-08-2003, 12:28 PM

Isle of man TT's track.
Greatest race in the world with the craziest course in the world.
http://www.jontflesh.com/Picts/iom1.jpg
http://www.jontflesh.com/Picts/iom2.jpg
http://www.jontflesh.com/Picts/iommap.jpg

I just need a billion dollar life insurance policy, then I'll run it ;)

V8SpankR

10-08-2003, 12:50 PM

An indoor/covered track so we can race all year long.

Jackrabbit

10-08-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by V8SpankR
An indoor/covered track so we can race all year long.

Retractable dome? :D

RT 66 in Il is the best dragstrip I've had the pleasure of racing on. Nice facility.

tsitim

10-08-2003, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by V8SpankR
An indoor/covered track so we can race all year long.

thats more like it I have to come up with something by Jan or he wont even consider it, I was thinking indoor everything pit/staging/track with heated/AC
oh and indoor plumbing! thats a must!
what else?

TedR719

10-08-2003, 01:31 PM

A track with everything available, drag racing, an auto cross area, blah blah blah, just a place where you can do all your racing. Like a little mini town for cars :D shops and the whole nine yards!

tsitim

10-08-2003, 01:39 PM

see Bandimere was supposed to do something like that years ago but never got it approved in Douglas County, I'm going to try my hardest to get something off the ground.

TedR719

10-08-2003, 01:41 PM

Exactly... I remeber seeing layouts for that. It would be cool to have a place like that...

Originally posted by tsitim
see Bandimere was supposed to do something like that years ago but never got it approved in Douglas County, I'm going to try my hardest to get something off the ground.

saabracr

10-08-2003, 01:51 PM

the ring

Andy

Dustin

10-08-2003, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by tsitim
see Bandimere was supposed to do something like that years ago but never got it approved in Douglas County, I'm going to try my hardest to get something off the ground.

It will never happen bro. Unless your boss has some VERY high up political friends and can whack all of the people involved with PPIR. It won't happen in this lifetime. There is more to it than just throwing money at a piece of land and building a race track. It doesn't matter if he's worth 200 Million. This was already attempted and failed, with people who are probably a lot more savvy when it comes to these kinds of things. You might be able to swing a go-cart track but nothing more.

If your boss is a good business man, he will have his operatives view what happened with the "aurora" track and run.

tsitim

10-08-2003, 02:35 PM

Aurora track?

tsitim

10-08-2003, 03:44 PM

bump!
Aurora track?

David

10-08-2003, 03:53 PM

one of those hot wheels track where you have to jump a large bridge with other cars jumping through the same gap in the opposite direction.

tsitim

10-08-2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Jackrabbit
Retractable dome? :D

RT 66 in Il is the best dragstrip I've had the pleasure of racing on. Nice facility.

got pics? I bet thats exspensive!:eek:

Weston-work

10-08-2003, 04:00 PM

Some clubs do have autocrosses at Bandimere from time to time. I think the SCCA used to have some there too, but I know they don't now. But obviously there's no way to setup a road course there.

As for the ideal track... Second Creek wouldn't be bad if it were a little wider, looked nice, and was kept up. There are two turns that I don't like, but what's the point if there's no challenge. PPIR is a bit too NASCAR for me, even when they route the cars through the middle. I've been wanting to check out PMI, but Pueblo is a little far to drive the car you're racing to (could be a very expensive tow home). There's also CDR in Mead that I've been wanting to check out...

tsitim

10-08-2003, 04:03 PM

CDR in Mead we should go for a drive!

tsitim

10-08-2003, 04:04 PM

speaking of second creek! thought they were in financial trouble?

Weston-work

10-08-2003, 04:26 PM

I don't know about financial trouble, but the place is fairly run-down if that's any indication. But I wouldn't expect them to put much money into it, as their lease is expiring next year. I heard something about them building new track to replace it, but I don't have any details.

tsitim

10-08-2003, 04:28 PM

anyone got the number for second creek?

David

10-08-2003, 04:59 PM

303.371.6661

jontflesh

10-08-2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by tsitim
speaking of second creek! thought they were in financial trouble?
The lease is up at the end of the 04 season. They are trying to get zoning ect done to do a new track but right now it is all up in the air. This is all per my MRA racer class.
It is gonna really suck in the 05 season though, the only other tracks that are road race worthy are La Junta and Pueblo.

djet820

10-08-2003, 07:23 PM

Cool racetrack would be a dome in the air or soemthing underwater.

Mario

10-08-2003, 08:08 PM

I think that an indoor track would just be badass. This would be cool too:

having like the auto cross track going around the drag strip, and the autox has a flat bridge (so the heigh doesn't increase) where the drag cars go under the bridge to race on the strip. :)

Skaterkid

10-08-2003, 08:16 PM

Two words:
Laguna Seca

tsitim

10-09-2003, 08:13 AM

good ideas! I guess I have my work cut out for me! well I will keep everyone informed!

Dustin

10-09-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by tsitim
bump!
Aurora track?

The track that was supposed to be annexed into aurora that the voters turned down.

tsitim

10-09-2003, 09:02 AM

oh, do you remember the name and location of where it was supposed to be?

tsitim

10-09-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by 4g63_KickAss
303.371.6661

thanks I will give them a call :cool:

Mudd

10-12-2003, 09:19 AM

Can you say PIPE DREAM?

Tim, I have to tell you that you are wasting your time. If a new track could be built Dustin would have already done it. He has all the money in the world, (Hell, if I had his money I'd burn mine) and he can't get one built.

tsitim

10-12-2003, 09:25 AM

Mark_H

10-13-2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Mudd
Can you say PIPE DREAM?

Tim, I have to tell you that you are wasting your time. If a new track could be built Dustin would have already done it. He has all the money in the world, (Hell, if I had his money I'd burn mine) and he can't get one built.

Can you give us some more information about his attempts to get another track going? I'm just curious how serious he was and what information he got. And where he gets all this $$:)
Granted I'm sure it's the truth and that not just any Joe Schmo with a small finanacial backer can build a racetrack.
Mark

tsitim

10-13-2003, 09:32 AM

BUMP

hotrod

10-13-2003, 11:25 PM

It was a project involving a know nothing racer named Penske.
It may still fly, but not soon.

http://jayski.thatsracin.com/pages/tracks/denver.htm
http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/News/news_id070.html
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/racing/article/0,1299,DRMN_52_2221401,00.html

Larry

Dustin

10-14-2003, 07:36 AM

Haha, I wasn't involved in anyway. Mudd was kidding. Besides Penske, Speedway Corp. and Bruton Smith who built many other tracks were involved with John Bandimere and some other financial backers, and sanctioning bodies. An amendment was added to the ballot which would annex the land the speedway would be on for Aurora water, sewer, etc. The people who run Pikes Peak International Raceway funded opposition to the amendment. they want to have the only promenent oval in the state, and possibly a future nascar race. So with the negative advertising by PPIR the amendment was not passed. on a side note, Nascar doesn't want PPIR because it is not a good location.