Black Supercharged Civic VS. 2000 Honda Accord V6

[alphanumeric]

I was goin on 104th and a civic pulled up to me at a light, I thought it was just another civic and that I would end up smoking it in my automatic =-BUT-=...It was supercharged and I heard it winding up, this was when I knew I underestimated the civic. It was pretty fast, yeah, it beat me. But I am sure I can take it... when I get forced induction (Nitrous Express). I am pretty proud of myself for losing only by 2 car lengths to a supercharged car...when my car is all motor. I saw that this civic had a High Altitude Imports.com sticker on the side windows, so I wanted to come on and find the black supercharged civic I raced the other day...lets meet up sometime...we have to race again! haha..

[RiceBurner00]

cool race, but supercharged cars are not amazingly fast, why would you be proud of that? What is the estimated hp/tq on supercharged civics?

[taikahn]

Originally posted by RiceBurner00
cool race, but supercharged cars are not amazingly fast, why would you be proud of that? What is the estimated hp/tq on supercharged civics?

180-200

[95GSRB18C]

what was all done to the exterior of the car? Are you sure it wasnt Turbo? Pang(TurboSi) is the only black civic i know of on the board and the only one that would cruise around on 104th, i could be wrong tho...

[HONDA GHANDI]

Ill race you in my SC civic. ;)

[GimPin]

But I am sure I can take it... when I get forced induction (Nitrous Express).

are you saying that you are going to get Nitrous and forced induction?? Most ppl dont consider nitrous as a method of FI... at least I dont.... does anybody else... I usually consider FI as turbo or SC...

[V8SpankR]

I consider nitrous as a power adder which can be considered FI to some. I look at it as you're renting your horsepower. :)

[2000SiVTEC]

I would have murdered you in my supercharged civic. I think most guys on this board can vouch for that. But I just have a slow jetta these days if you care to try;)

[GimPin]

ok maybe there are different views on this issue but I always considered FI as somthing that would create positive intake manifold presure (1+ lb of boost)

[Hellified SH]

Originally posted by alphanumeric
It was supercharged and I heard it winding up, this was when I knew I underestimated the civic.

Super Chargers wind up HUH I didnt know that they did, I knew turbo's spooled and all..

[b18cya-T]

too bad you're accord isn't purple, then you would've beat it for sure!.

[w00dr0w]

Originally posted by b18cya-T
too bad you're accord isn't purple, then you would've beat it for sure!.

Sometimes we think too much alike. I was going to say the same thing.

[Ghosty]

Originally posted by GimPin
ok maybe there are different views on this issue but I always considered FI as somthing that would create positive intake manifold presure (1+ lb of boost)
Nitrous is NOT forced-induction. I've never heard of people that consider it FI, either. Even though it IS a "power-adder", and if it "does" increase manifold pressure (slightly), it's still not considered FI.

Blowers might not "wind-up", but they do have a distinctive high-pitched whine at all RPM's, which is maybe what he's talking about.

[RiceBurner00]

i know this is off topic, but how do you guys like the pontiac GTP?
the 2003 ones get 260hp, I dont know all this talk about SC, I just love the new GTPs, especially 2 doors

is 180-200 civic fast? what would be the normal 1/4 for it ?

[exciv2000]

hmm, I'd smoke your AV6 too :) I'm supercharged but my car's not black. Also I didn't race any accords yesterday. Was it an SI? EX? Hatch? Coupe? I wasn't on 104th but I was on 120th yesterday. Almost got out of my car and punched this guy too for driving like a fucking idiot but there was a cop on a side street.

[jojo]

I make no distinction between power adders and forced induction.

[alphanumeric]

RiceBurner00 cool race, but supercharged cars are not amazingly fast, why would you be proud of that? What is the estimated hp/tq on supercharged civics?

I would be proud of that because my car is all motor...and the civic has a supercharger. PLUS my car is an automatic ..although V6..it is still a heavy automatic.

GimPin are you saying that you are going to get Nitrous and forced induction?? Most ppl dont consider nitrous as a method of FI... at least I dont.... does anybody else... I usually consider FI as turbo or SC...

No, not both....none of the major companies want to make a turbo for the Automatic V6...there are too many transmission problems with it. There is the Comptech Supercharger for my car, but why pay $3800 for it when I can spend about 1/3 of the price it costs for a supercharger and get a well-rounded nitrous system that gives me even more HP.

But sorry to those that consider only SC and Turbos as Forced Induction. But some people consider nitrous as forced induction too...but I didnt mean to flame up the post by starting this debate.

exciv2000 hmm, I'd smoke your AV6 too I'm supercharged but my car's not black. Also I didn't race any accords yesterday. Was it an SI? EX? Hatch? Coupe? I wasn't on 104th but I was on 120th yesterday. Almost got out of my car and punched this guy too for driving like a fucking idiot but there was a cop on a side street.

I know that ALL of your guys' SUPERCHARGED CIVICS would kick my AV6's ass...but my shit is still ALLLLLL MOTOR. I didnt buy my Av6 for speed...I bought it because I like the body style, it was still classy, and it had some speed to begin with. But i am just sayin I thought i put up a good fight for being all motor and an automatic.

The Black Civic was a COUPE, not sure which trim...and it had a body kit, and tinted windows. But thanks to that guy, I found this website...so good promotion with the HAI.COM stickers!

And I THINK it was Supercharged...it might have been turbo...but i didnt hear the air from the bov when he was shifting...all I heard was winding. Not too familiar with SC's and Turbos...so maybe you guys can determine which setup it was...

Thanks for all your guys' comments...

[CSMsi311]

you sure he was racing you? :D j/k

It probably was Pang. And superchargers do make a whiny sound or maybe something is just wrong with mine.

[RiceBurner00]

how do you have a heavy 2000 v6 accord, there not even 3,000 pounds, mine is just under 4000, wanna race 8)

[LeonZ]

V6 accords are well over 3000 pounds. I have 4 cylinder manual, and its right at 3000 lbs.

[Steve_C]

Originally posted by alphanumeric

No, not both....none of the major companies want to make a turbo for the Automatic V6...there are too many transmission problems with it. There is the Comptech Supercharger for my car, but why pay $3800 for it when I can spend about 1/3 of the price it costs for a supercharger and get a well-rounded nitrous system that gives me even more HP.


i hope you plan on keeping the nitros around or under 50 shots. plus having your transmission fluid drained, a tranny cooler installed because the crap ass tranny's that came with the av6's most likely wouldn't hold up. hks made a prototype turbo but after going through 3 tranny's they sold it to some guy over at accordv6.com. well he's gone through 2-3 tranny's as well, gave up and tried selling it on the accord forum and ebay.

that's the same reason why comptech would only run 4.5 psi on their blowers, regardless if it's for the accord, the tl-s or the cl-s. if you want to add some lowend power to the j30a, look into the unorthodox ss pulley's, the cl-s cam swap, v-afc, comptech or stone racing ss headers (groupbuy for 400 bucks)

steve

[RiceBurner00]

Originally posted by LeonZ
V6 accords are well over 3000 pounds. I have 4 cylinder manual, and its right at 3000 lbs.

his car is right at 3000, maybe 3025.....still not heavy, find me where it is Way over 3000 pounds :rolleyes:

[ryanman]

Nitrous is NOT forced induction. It is NOT forced into your motor. It is SUCKED into the motor by a vacuum.

[exciv2000]

Originally posted by ryanman
Nitrous is NOT forced induction. It is NOT forced into your motor. It is SUCKED into the motor by a vacuum.

actually it's force out from high bottle pressures between 900 and 1200 psi. Even at 600 psi it sprays about 4-5 feet.

[jojo]

Originally posted by ryanman
Nitrous is NOT forced induction. It is NOT forced into your motor. It is SUCKED into the motor by a vacuum.

Nothing gets sucked. The driving force is a pressure difference. The region of higher pressure expands into the region of lower pressure.

If the nitrous were not at a higher pressure than ambient then air would move into the bottle when the solenoid opened instead of nitrous being injected into the charge as it does.

[LeonZ]

Originally posted by RiceBurner00
his car is right at 3000, maybe 3025.....still not heavy, find me where it is Way over 3000 pounds :rolleyes:

Sorry to get off the subject...

A 2000 v6 accord is right under 3300 lbs, not including the driver. It is not under 3000 lbs like you stated because, like I said before, even my 2 door manual 4 cylinder weighs over 3000 lbs.

[RiceBurner00]

where do you see this at man?

[LeonZ]

I see THIS on my screen right now.

[RiceBurner00]

just wanted to see a 3,300 pound accord 8), can you help me out

[LeonZ]

Go to your local honda dealer, and ask for a v6 accord, you will see them...

[RiceBurner00]

ok, just looked at KBB.com and consumer guide, consumer guide is saying just over 2900, KBB is saying about 3025

accords are not 3300

[alphanumeric]

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/honda/accord/2320/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Hon da* (http://http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/honda/accord/2320/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Hon da*)

www.edmunds.com

says it weighs 3259lbs....with subs and the driver....it puts it over 3300.

[LeonZ]

http://www.automotive.com/reviews/honda/98_honda_accord_summary_specs.html?source_id=1057

Curb Weight: 3285

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=2211

car and driver: lightest 4 cylinder is 2900, heaviest v6 accord 3300

http://www.nctd.com/review-final.cfm?ReviewID=505
another one...

thats what i thought....

[RiceBurner00]

its a 2000, and yes it did say 3,285 pounds, the sources I looked at were right at 3,000

still not a heavy car anyways

[LeonZ]

That's because your sources suck. The only difference from 98 to 2000 was colors choice. That doesn't subtract 3000 lbs even at sea level.

[Jai SI]

It sounds like Pangs car to me. You sure he only beat you by two cars? At the top of what, first gear? Maybe he wasn't even pushing his car.

[95GSRB18C]

Originally posted by Jai SI
It sounds like Pangs car to me. You sure he only beat you by two cars? At the top of what, first gear? Maybe he wasn't even pushing his car.

haha, i was thinkin the same thing.

[alphanumeric]

if his car shifts from 1st gear to 1st gear to 1st gear....then yeah. But we got up almost to 80 man....

[Jai SI]

What do you have one your all-motor automatic setup? Anything enough to keep up with a 14 second car? What do those things run stock up here?

Don't worry about me...I'm just trying to figure this out.

[Palespider]

Originally posted by alphanumeric
if his car shifts from 1st gear to 1st gear to 1st gear....then yeah. But we got up almost to 80 man....

Maybe he wasn't racing? I go "almost up to 80" on 104th all the time. A lot of people think that they're winning all these races flooring their automatic V6's at every light, when the other people are just driving normal.

I don't think he would waste his time on an Accord (if it was indeed supercharged), I know I wouldn't.

[Pang]

Originally posted by alphanumeric
I was goin on 104th and a civic pulled up to me at a light, I thought it was just another civic and that I would end up smoking it in my automatic =-BUT-=...It was supercharged and I heard it winding up, this was when I knew I underestimated the civic. It was pretty fast, yeah, it beat me. But I am sure I can take it... when I get forced induction (Nitrous Express). I am pretty proud of myself for losing only by 2 car lengths to a supercharged car...when my car is all motor. I saw that this civic had a High Altitude Imports.com sticker on the side windows, so I wanted to come on and find the black supercharged civic I raced the other day...lets meet up sometime...we have to race again! haha..


umm dude its was more than 2 cars lenghts i let of the throttle after the 4 fourth car length i pulled on you. Then you go blasting by after i slowed down..btw im turboed and nice car you got going. Dig the carbon hood

And it would take more than a 150 shot of NOS on your car to keep up :D

[Pang]

Originally posted by alphanumeric
if his car shifts from 1st gear to 1st gear to 1st gear....then yeah. But we got up almost to 80 man....


sorry bout all the shifting you heard, my clutch didn't wanna hold up till 3rd gear.

new clutch goes in tommorrow wOOT!

[Jai SI]

Have you been on the stock clutch this whole time?

[Pang]

Originally posted by Jai SI
Have you been on the stock clutch this whole time?

yep almost 25k miles turboed on the stock clutch.

[alphanumeric]

Thanks for the compliment on the CF hood...rims are commin soon..and so is my nitrous. I'll try you again after i get the nitrous in cool? You fooled me man...i was like.."aww man..another civic"....but then i see you flyin by and i hear it spoolin up..and i was like DAMN! I GOT PLAYED..haha. anyways..it was fun..we gotta do it again...you live in northglenn? Nice clean (fast) car bro...

[95GSRB18C]

see i knew it was pang. :D and he lives in thornton BTW.

[Ashton]

damn right if it was a purple accord it wouda whopped ur ass pang haha jk.....

yeah i know for fuckin sure your car didnt lose by 2 car lengths man... yeah with a driver and passenger that weigh 200 lbs each our car weighs about 2 tons.... rice our cars are heavy as shit.... oh and hey alphanumeric welcome to the site, glad to see another V6 ACCORD.... too bad i wont have mine in a month and a half....

the biggest power adders for the V6 Accord go like this minus FI
- NOS
- Unorthodox pullies
- CT headers
- Exhaust
- Intake
and thats about it.... heh

you can also do a CL-S swap but yeah thats pricey.....

[LeonZ]

He probably didn't know that...

[stu]

How do you know those are such great power adders since you don't have any of them? Oh yeah, and aside from nitrous, not a single one of those you listed adds power, just an FYI.

[Steve_C]

Originally posted by stu
How do you know those are such great power adders since you don't have any of them? Oh yeah, and aside from nitrous, not a single one of those you listed adds power, just an FYI.

that's cause he restated just about everything i posted earlier.... except for the cl-s swap, i'm not that dumb to list it cause for that price, you might as well sell your accord and buy a real cl-s

[LeonZ]

hehe. if someone is thinking about putting a cl-s engine into accord, he has problems. modding accord to that degree is just thick IMO.

[iburnslabs]

dude pang you should have murdered him by like 10 cars... you did hold with the supra almost through 2nd....

[Pang]

Originally posted by iburnslabs
dude pang you should have murdered him by like 10 cars... you did hold with the supra almost through 2nd....


i had your supra till top of third and through 2nd :D. Clutch is almost is in, boost is going up a few psi. I want another run;)

[Pang]

and yo i don't get your sig?

[domestichell]

G.T.Os coming back to pontiac with a LS1 motor in it...pretty slick

[RiceBurner00]

cant wait for the GTO's, bad as shit...